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Originally Posted by Rambos
Give me a daft pick (defense) that will be there at 13 that can have a big impact?
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I hope you're not suggesting that we can't draft a rookie defensive played and expect him to have a big impact for us in year one.
Just look at some of the rookies who were major contributors for their teams' defenses last season: DeMeco Ryans, 155 tackles as a rookie. Mark Anderson, 12 sacks as a rookie. AJ Hawk, 119 tackles and 2 INTs as a rookie. Donte Whitner, 107 tackles and 1 INT as a rookie. Ernie Sims, 124 tackles as a rookie. Haloti Ngata, 31 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT as a rookie. Kamerion Wimbley, 62 tackles, 11 sacks as a rookie. And of course our own
Tye Hill, 50 tackles and 3 INTs as a rookie.
It really shouldn't be difficult at all to see that a rookie defensive player can come onto a team and make big contributions, but if you really need me to go through a list of names that be that productive in 2007 I can do that.
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Originally Posted by Rambos
Looks like Haslett is not going to move Spoon from the middle, why draft a LB in the first round. Safety?How many DT can you draft that are going to come in as a rookie and play well in thier first are second year, none.
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One, there are at least two very good SLB prospects who could be available to us in round one (Patrick Willis & Lawrence Timmons). Drafting one of them would give us a three-player starting unit with outstanding talent.
Two, safety is certainly a position that could be addressed, because both Atogwe and Carter are restricted free agents after the 2007 season, and I doubt we keep both of them long-term. It's not probable at this point but I wouldn't rule it out.
Three, if you don't think a rookie DT can come in and contribute in his first year, you haven't been watching much Baltimore Ravens football. The big-bodied Haloti Ngata has been starting every game for Baltimore this season and has been a pretty important cog in their defense. If you need past examples, look at guys like Tommie Harris and Kevin Williams who were full time starters as rookies, as well as John Henderson who started all but three games as a rookie. Saying there are no DTs that come in as a rookie and play well is simply 100% inaccurate.
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Originally Posted by Rambos
Curtis is gone and if Holt or Bruce misses time, we will not put up all that many points.
We need a KR and a Page Ranking and with Curtis gone no real burner, this guy can flat out fly.
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These are fair points, but I really just don't think it's accurate to make a case for a WR based on the notion that there isn't a defensive player who can come in and have an impact, as you tried to do earlier. Ginn is a possibility, but I would think with the defensive talent in this draft, he's probably more on the slim side than he is the likely side of the spectrum.