[evil disco man]

I wouldn't go so far as to say the humble ones have no fire in their belly. Those are the types of leaders the Rams have always had in these past years - Ray Agnew, Isaac Bruce, Aeneas Williams, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, etc. It's better than having a Keyshawn or Terrell, who use their pedestal for selfish reasons. When it comes down to it, it is just being smart, like you said in the first place. I enjoy the outspoken players who aren't afraid to be open, but some just don't know when to shutup.

Do you think Turley might be "subdued" because he's happy?