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Re: Goodell says "Nothing New" in Spygate

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Originally Posted by Yodude View Post
I find it kind of silly that you think the Pats', as well as the NFL's credibility in this matter is not at issue. The items you list as facts are not facts, they are statements made by the Pats, their former employee and the NFL. Said statements were all prepared behind closed doors with no public witnesses. They were spoon-fed to the media by the NFL, whose sole purpose in this situation is damage control and public relations. The fact that Goodall destroyed the evidence without making it public is ridiculous...you do not need to be U.S. Senator to find that disturbing. I would think anyone with an ounce of intelligence would find it highly suspicious.


Think of it this way. Imagine you have a weekly poker game that's been going on for months (or years). There's one guy who wins way more than anyone else, but you chalk it up to a combination of skill and luck. Then you catch the guy cheating. He responds with "I only cheated last week, all the other times I've played fair and square." Are you telling me that this guy's crediblity is not shot as far as you're concerned. If that's the case, God bless you and your naivety.

Guess what...if you get caught cheating in a casino, you are cordially invited to never come back, even if you steadfastly claim you have never cheated any of the other times you visited their tables.

As far as the shrill screetching of someone who wants to believe what they want to believe regardless of how many facts are presented, that's not even close. As I stated previously, in my opinion, sugar-coated statements prepared behind closed doors by an organization trying to protect it's own greedy, self-serving interests and public image do not impress me as facts.

Why do you think we have the SEC to investigate securities fraud? Because if you put the rats in charge of the cheese, the cheese gets eaten, that's why. Why do you think congressional hearings are public? For their entertainment value? I think not.

I don't even care whether they taped any walkthrough or not, nor am I promoting any "conspiracy theories". The only "facts" of this case are that the Patriots are cheaters, and anything they've accomplished in Belichick's tenure is suspect and tainted in my book. As far as the NFL's underhanded conduct in this matter, it makes them accomplices.
Silly? Its anything but silly. Whats silly is groping around in the dark looking for reasons as to why the Rams lost Superbowl 36. The items that I listed are indeed facts, as much as can be proven in an instance like this. Matt Walsh had no reason to lie to the NFL or the specter. You may not believe what he has to say, but that does not disprove the statements as fact.

Looking at the case what do we know?
-The Patriots have video taped team signals since 2000. The league stated it. The Patriots admitted it. Okay, where is the issue being swept under the rug?
- The NFL punished the team for the video tape violations. Where in this instance is the issue being obfuscated or swept under the rug?
- Matt Walsh stepped forward in order to add his .02 to the issue. Thru his lawyers an agreement is made for the NFL to interview him. Where is the NFL hiding anything here?
- The NFL interviewed Matt Walsh about what he knew of the Patriots taping practices.
- The NFL broadcast top the media the information Matt Walsh came forward with. The videos concur with the statements issued by Wlash's attorney regarding the content. Where is the smke job here?
- Matt Walsh told the NFL what he knew, including information about two additional topics which the league will investigate. These include him being at the walkthru, ticket scalping and IR irregularities. Okay, if he Walsh was acting as a shill for the Patriots, would these issues have come forward? Highly doubtful.
- Then Matt Walsh meets with Senator Comcast. Um er I mean Senator Specter.Its obvious from the press conference he held Senator Specter doesnt understand what's going on. His pc was a rambling at times incoherent affair.

If the Senator wants to convene an independant council to investigate the "Integrity" issue in the NFL, fine. But said investigation has to be focused on the entire league - not just the Patriots. Including the reports of the Patriots walkthru practice being spied upon the day before SB 36. (An act witnessed by a league official, no less.)

So yeah, as much as you want to deny it, your very statements regarding the NFL Walsh and the Patriots concocting sugary sweet press releases for the media is, well a conspiracy, at least to my naive eyes.

At this point, I believe this is a dead issue. All the complaints about the punishment not being harsh enough, about how this issue was swept aside, buried etc smells of sour grapes.
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