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I'm not worried. Just thought this topic would be interesting. It's something I have found...to be unusual and very intriguing. If my research is on target, the following passages seem to be perfectly resonable to me and make plenty of sense. For those that read carefully, they will see that there may be something to the quatrains. Taken fromTime and Nostradamus-World Predictions

Quote:
"Aupres des portes et dedans deux cites
Seront deux fleux et oncques n'appercu un tel;
Faim, dedans peste, de fer hors gens boutes
Crier secours au grand Dieu immortel "
Century two, verse six
Slightly adjusted to read:-

Quote:
"Aupres des portes et dedans deux cites
Seront deux fleux et donc tel que n' un apercu
Dedans faim peste, hors de fer gens boutes,
Crier secours au grand Dieu immortel."
Quote:
"Next to the doors and inside two cities
Will be two such scourges that there can be no intuition;
Inside, hunger curses; out of the iron spear, the finished people
Will cry for help to the great, immortal God."
In this interpretation, the "two cities" may the twin towers of the World trade centre, though it can be argued that the phrase refers to New York and Washington. Perhaps both are intended. Each tower housed as many people as a major city in the time of Nostradamus. "Doors" also indicates buildings.
The second line is right; that a passenger airliner would be hijacked and used as a flying bomb to destroy each tower was unthinkable before it happened. So, too, with the strike on the Pentagon.
The first words of the third line suggests two possibilities; the "hunger" that curses may be the natural desire for simple revenge, but Nostradamus may be warning that satisfying this hunger may bring down evil on the perpetrators. The second possibility is that it could be a direct reference to the current circumstances in Afghanistan, which is more and more appearing to be the prime target for any retaliation. Ninety-five per cent of the people of Afghanistan have probably not even heard of the attack on New York. They have no post, telephones, radio or television. The people are facing starvation because there has been drought for three years, and now the UN and all the aid agencies have pulled out. "Inside hunger curses" may be decribing this situation.
Fer means "iron". Fer de lance is a spear. Iron is heavy, but this is iron that flies through the air. People are inside some kind of iron vessel. I suggest that this is as near as Nostradamus wanted to go in this verse to describing an aircraft. The people, the passengers inside, know that they are finished and call out in their last moments to "the great, immortal God".
I expect this is also true of the fanatical terrorists.

Quote:
"Le dard du ciel fera son estendue,
Mors en parlant; grand execution:
La pierre en l'arbre, la fiere gent rendue,
Bruit humain monstre purge expiation. "
Century two, quatrain 70.
Slightly adjusted again:

Quote:
"Le dard du ciel fera son estendu,
Mort en parlant: grand execution:
La pierre en l'arbre; la fiere gens rendu,
Bruit humain monstre purge expiation."
Quote:
"The sting from heaven will bring about its own extended, eloquent death, a great execution: the stone in the tree, a proud people restored. Colossal human noise serves expiation."
Those three aeroplanes can be said to have resembled giant deadly insects homing in on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. So, too the third aeroplane that crashed in Pennsylvania, prevented for succeeding in its deadly mission by brave passengers.
The terrorists executed thousands by this act. The proud people, Americans, are restored by the colossal voiced support and sympathy from people across the planet.
But what of "the stone in the tree"? Perhaps it is a metaphor; the stone (meaning the rubble cascading down) lodged in the tree of life of this great city. But l'arbre has a secondary meaning: shaft. "The stone in the shaft" strikes a sharper note. It suggests lift shafts blocked by rubble before the towers fell. There may be one or two more quatrains which may also describe these apocalyptic events. If so, I shall put them up here. But I have to say that I do not agree with some of those suggested, particularly 1.87. I shall explain why in a further addition.
See you soon.
Valerie Hewitt
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