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The ClanRam Forums - RAM TALK http://www.clanram.com/forums/ en Wed, 22 May 2013 04:17:02 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.clanram.com/forums/images/misc/rss.png The ClanRam Forums - RAM TALK http://www.clanram.com/forums/ How I feel about our NFC West rivals http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/how-i-feel-about-our-nfc-west-rivals-51733/ Tue, 21 May 2013 23:37:07 GMT Division rivals are not all created equal.

When I look at the three teams in our division, I have vastly different feelings.

In the case of the Niners, we're talking pure disdain. There was a brief moment in history when the Joe Montana squad was an underdog to the hated Cowboys that I favored them. Once they had a taste of success, though, their fans (most of whom jumped the bandwagon after a title or two) became insufferable. To make matters worse, when the Rams were down, they wouldn't shut up about it (unlike the 70s, when the Rams dominated and I can't recall ever taunting a Whiner fan). At this point, there is not a team in the league (that's right, even the Cowboys and Patriots) that I wouldn't pull for to beat the Niners. Don't like them. Never will.

The Seahawks, by contrast, are merely a rival of circumstance. Sure, there are players (i.e. Richard Sherman) and coaches (i.e. Pete Carroll) of whom I am not particularly fond, but Seattle still, to this day, does not elicit the type of negative emotional response in me that the Niners do. As for their fans, I have to admit that I've generally found them to be a decent bunch. Sure, some of them seem to be oblivious of the fact that, up until about 10 years ago, the Rams' history was far more impressive than theirs. Sure, those "Johnny-come-lately" types sometimes express misplaced pity on Rams fans who remember watching Jack Youngblood play when the Seahaws were barely an expansion team. But, all in all, I really don't have any major beef with them.

Then there's the Cardinals. For St. Louisians, there is an inherent rivalry between the team that used to play by the Arch and the team that does now. I supposed there could also be a bit of a "custody battle" over Kurt Warner's legacy. But, beyond that, the Cardinals' resume is pretty, well... pathetic. Even in the few years when the Rams looked up at them in the standings, it seemed like a temporary glitch in the history of the division, rather than a long term status quo. And how do I feel about Cardinals fans? Well, pretty much the same way I feel about Zoroastrians. I know they exist, but I'm not sure if I've ever even met one.

So, for me, when it comes down to it, I only perceive there to be one hated division "rival," along with two mere divisional foes. ]]> RAM TALK AvengerRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/how-i-feel-about-our-nfc-west-rivals-51733/ Rams Spend $60,000 in Bonuses on Five Undrafted Players http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-spend-60-000-bonuses-five-undrafted-players-51730/ Tue, 21 May 2013 16:43:31 GMT Monday, May 20, 2013 By: Howard Balzer With numerous roster spots to fill after the draft to reach the offseason limit of 90 players, the Rams got very busy signing undrafted free agents. The most recent addition of Lindenwood wide receiver Andrew Helmick brought to 29 the number of undrafted players the Rams have signed. The Rams currently have 88 players on the roster, including their seven draft choices. Of the 29 undrafted players, the Rams spent $75,600 in signing bonuses, with $60,000 of that going to five players. Tackle Braden Brown and safety Cody Davis each received $15,000 bonuses, while running back Benny Cunningham, and linebackers Phillip Steward and Jonathan Stewart each were paid $10,000. Seventeen players signed did not receive a signing bonus. Following is the bonus allocation for each player. Monday, May 20, 2013
By: Howard Balzer

With numerous roster spots to fill after the draft to reach the offseason limit of 90 players, the Rams got very busy signing undrafted free agents.

The most recent addition of Lindenwood wide receiver Andrew Helmick brought to 29 the number of undrafted players the Rams have signed. The Rams currently have 88 players on the roster, including their seven draft choices.

Of the 29 undrafted players, the Rams spent $75,600 in signing bonuses, with $60,000 of that going to five players. Tackle Braden Brown and safety Cody Davis each received $15,000 bonuses, while running back Benny Cunningham, and linebackers Phillip Steward and Jonathan Stewart each were paid $10,000.

Seventeen players signed did not receive a signing bonus. Following is the bonus allocation for each player.

T Braden Brown $15,000
S Cody Davis 15,000
RB Benny Cunningham 10,000
LB Phillip Steward 10,000
LB Jonathan Stewart 10,000
FB Eric Stevens 5,000
WR C.J. Akins 2,000
DE Gerald Rivers 2,000
CB Darren Woodard 2,000
TE Philip Lutzenkirchen 3,100
S Cannon Smith 1,000
CB Robert Steeples 500

NO BONUS

LB RayRay Armstrong
K Brett Baer
LB Daren Bates
WR Emory Blake
WR Andrew Helmick
T Sean Hooey
LS Jorgen Hus The Rams at least could have given him a sandwich & a 6-pack
for his entertaining video of trick snaps ..
QB Tim Jenkins
LB Joseph LeBeau
G Kenny Saia
DT Garrett Goebel
DT Al Lapuaho
CB Andre Martin
WR Scott Pillar
CB Drew Thomas
S Don Unamba
DE R.J. Washington ]]> RAM TALK MauiRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-spend-60-000-bonuses-five-undrafted-players-51730/ Pead’s Promise Should Bear More Fruit for This Year’s Rams http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/pead-s-promise-should-bear-more-fruit-year-s-rams-51729/ Tue, 21 May 2013 16:23:43 GMT Pead’s Promise Should Bear More Fruit for This Year’s Rams By Anthony Stalter At some point between the moment he was selected with the 50th overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft and the end of his rookie campaign, Isaiah Pead lost his confidence. In an April interview with the University of Cincinnati’s official website, Pead admitted that his rookie season was “miserable.” He talked about sitting alone in his house and throwing a tennis ball up against the wall, lonely and frustrated by failing to make an impact in his first year in the pros. After averaging 5.3 yards per carry with 1,259 yards rushing and 12 touchdowns as a senior at Cincinnati, his rookie season with the Rams didn’t exactly go as planned. Due to a late graduation, Pead missed OTAs and then watched as seventh-rounder Daryl Richardson outperformed him during the preseason. While Pead was tentative and overwhelmed, Richardson was decisive and eager. This led to Pead gaining just 54 yards on 10 carries for the season. But despite his lack of production, there’s plenty to love about Pead heading into his sophomore year. First and foremost, graduation won’t keep him from attending OTAs, so there’s no excuse for him to start slowly this summer. He also doesn’t have to worry about the face of the franchise being leery of taking his job. Pead’s Promise Should Bear More Fruit for This Year’s Rams
By Anthony Stalter

At some point between the moment he was selected with the 50th overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft and the end of his rookie campaign, Isaiah Pead lost his confidence.

In an April interview with the University of Cincinnati’s official website, Pead admitted that his rookie season was “miserable.” He talked about sitting alone in his house and throwing a tennis ball up against the wall, lonely and frustrated by failing to make an impact in his first year in the pros.

After averaging 5.3 yards per carry with 1,259 yards rushing and 12 touchdowns as a senior at Cincinnati, his rookie season with the Rams didn’t exactly go as planned. Due to a late graduation, Pead missed OTAs and then watched as seventh-rounder Daryl Richardson outperformed him during the preseason. While Pead was tentative and overwhelmed, Richardson was decisive and eager. This led to Pead gaining just 54 yards on 10 carries for the season.

But despite his lack of production, there’s plenty to love about Pead heading into his sophomore year. First and foremost, graduation won’t keep him from attending OTAs, so there’s no excuse for him to start slowly this summer. He also doesn’t have to worry about the face of the franchise being leery of taking his job.

Back in July of last year, Steven Jackson made it clear on PFT Live that he wouldn’t be too pleased if the Rams attempted to make Pead a big part of their offense. Said Jackson, “I actually see him being a backup. If it’s the way I want it, to continue to live out the legacy of my career, I will continue to be the workhorse. He can relieve me at times during the game, or when we need a change of pace against the defense.”

Did Jackson have a negative impact on Pead’s development? It wouldn’t be fair to speculate. Besides, the only person Pead has to blame for his lack of production is himself. Whether Jackson ignored him or treated him like a long-lost brother is irrelevant. The bottom line is that Richardson took his opportunities and ran with them. Pead didn’t.

Still, production is as much about opportunity as it is talent. And with Jackson now in Atlanta, there shouldn’t be a shortage of opportunities for both Pead and Richardson.

Pead is the perfect fit for the offense that Jeff Fisher and Les Snead have been building the past two offseasons. The additions of Jared Cook, Tavon Austin, Chris Givens, Brian Quick and Stedman Bailey show the Rams’ desire to spread the field. Fisher knows that the key to any offense is balance, and the Rams will still run the ball plenty. But he’s also not blind to the fact that the NFL has become a space game; if you don’t have playmakers that can create in the open field, your offense will be limited.

The smallish Pead won’t be able to continuously pound the ball between the tackles. That’s not his game. His strengths lie in his quickness, speed and ability to create in the open field. That’s why Fisher and Snead drafted him in the second round last year, and that’s what they hope to highlight in 2013.

The idea is to spread opponents out and make them pick their poison. A healthy and upright Sam Bradford should be able to accurately get the ball to his assortment of weapons in the passing game. And with the defense back on its heels, Pead should have the necessary space to do his thing. It’s just a matter of him putting the past behind him and keeping his bright future in focus.

This offseason the Rams had every opportunity to re-sign Jackson, or draft a potential workhorse back like Eddie Lacy with one of their first-round picks. They opted to do neither.

The Rams’ confidence in Pead remains. If his returns, then don’t be surprised if he’s on the verge of a breakout season. ]]> RAM TALK MauiRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/pead-s-promise-should-bear-more-fruit-year-s-rams-51729/ RAMS JERSEYS REMEMBERED, All-time: 2012 edition. Part IV - IV http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-iv-iv-51728/ Tue, 21 May 2013 02:12:01 GMT :ram: Only players with at least one regular season game are listed... The list is divided in 25s or, four parts. This here is *IV / IV Numbers 76 through 99. What players are missing here? Image: http://contractorsleasing.com/images/animated-blue-arrow-left.gif * :ram: Only players with at least one regular season game are listed...

The list is divided in 25s or, four parts. This here is IV / IV

Numbers 76 through 99. What players are missing here?

76 -- Bob Brown @, OT [69]; Rosey Grier, DT [63]; Cody Jones, DL [74]; Gary Kowalski, T [83]; Leonard Levy ~, T [46]; John LoVetere, DL [59]; Joe Murray, G [87]; Orlando Pace, OT [97]; Rodger Saffold, T [10]; Mike Schad, OL [87]; Harry Schuh (also No. 79 in ‘73), OT [71]; Don Simensen (see No. 65 in ‘52), T [51]; Robert Young, DE [91]
77 -- Darryl Ashmore, OT [92]; Ethan Brooks, OT [97]; Rich Buzin, T [71]; Bob David, G [47]; Irv Eatman, OT [93]; Doug France, OL [75]; Brandon Gorin, T [07]; Winston Hill, T [77]; Gary Jeter, DE [83]; Billy Milner, T [96]; Sean Moran, DE [00]; Bob Nichols, OT [66]; Jason Smith, T [09]; Verda 'Vitamin T' Smith (see No. 50), RB [49]; George Strugar, DT [57]; Grant Williams, OT [02]; Matt Willig, T [99]; Jim Wilson, OT [68]; Karl Wilson, DT [91]
78 -- John Baker (no relation to No. 4; see no. 74), DL [58]; Jim Boeke, OL [60]; Roger Brown, DT [67]; Adam Goldberg, OL [06]; Gene Lipscomb, DT [53]; Clark Miller, DL [70]; Frank Molden, DT [65]; Roger Pillath, T [65]; Jackie Slater @ ^, OT [76]; Tim Stokes, T [74]; Roy Wilkins, LB [58]; Jim Winkler, DT/G [51 (see No. 38)]; Greg Wojcik, DT [71]
79 -- Bruce Anderson, DE [66]; Coy Bacon, DT [68]; Kurt Becker, G [89]; Ken Casner, T [52]; Charlie Bradshaw, T [58]; Mike Fanning, DT [75]; Stan Fanning [same name, same No., not related], DE [63]; Leo Goeas, OL [93]; John Greco, T [08];Bill Johnson, DL [97]; Wally Kersten, T [82]; Marion Knight, DE [87]; Mark LeVoir, OL [11]; Ryan Pickett, DT [01]; Harry Schuh (See No. 76), OT [71]; Bill Smyth, T/TE [47]; Todd Steussie, OG [06]
80 -- Gene Brito, DE [59]; Isaac Bruce ^, WR [94]; Henry Ellard, WR [83]; Tom Fears, E [48 (see No. 55)]; Neil Ferris, DB [53]; Bob Klein TE [69]; Bucky "Catawba Claw" Pope, WR [66]; Billy Ray Smith, DE [57]; Billy Waddy, WR [77]
81 -- Ron Battle, TE [81]; Fred Brown, LB [65]; Carroll Dale, WR [60]; Tom Franckhauser, DB [59]; Mardy Gilyard, WR [10]; Az-Zahir Hakim, WR [98]; Clay Hayward, TE [96]; Victor Hicks, TE [80]; Dave Hill, TE [83]; Pete Holohan, TE [88]; Torry Holt, WR [01] (also No. 88); Ron Jessie, WR [75]; Todd Kinchen, [92]; Dick Lane @, DB [52]; Paul Miller, DE [54]; Stacey Mobley, WR [87]; Gregg Schumacher, DE [67]; Stephen Spach, TE [11]
82 -- Henry Bernard, WE [87]; Bob Boyd, WR [52]; Aveion Cason, WR (also No. 26 in ‘05) [01]; Cam Cleeland, TE (see No. 87) [03]; Bobby Duckworth, WR [85]; Dick Evey, DT [70]; Mike Furrey, WR [03]; Otis Grant, WR [83]; Dante Hall, WR [07]; Tony Horne, WR [98]; Kent Jordan, WR [09]; Tony Lomack, WR [90]; Floyd Malcolm, WR [97]; Ruvell Martin, WR [09]; Travis McNeal, TE [92]; Willie Miller, WR [78]; Jim Phillips, WR [58]; Jermaine Ross, WR [94]; Eric Sievers, TE [88]; Joe Sweet, WR [72]; Vernon Turner, WR [91]; Terrence Wilkins, [02]
83 -- Willie "Flipper" Anderson, WR [88]; Drew Bennett, WR [07]; Darrius Blevins, WR [00]; Tom Braatz, E [58]; Henry Childs, TE [81]; Kevin Curtis, WR [03]; Kevin House, WR [86]; Elbert Kimbrough, DB [61]; Gary Larsen, DT [64]; Brandon Lloyd, WE [11]; Kerry Locklin, TE [82]; James McDonald, TE [83]; Yo Murphy, WR [01]; Terry Nelson, TE [74]; Lovell Pinkney, TE [95]; Dave Pivec, TE [66]; Torrance Small, WR [97]; Chris Thomas, WR [99]; Duane Wardlow [54]
84 -- Danario Alexander, WR [10]; Walt Arnold, TE [80]; Greg Baty, TE [87]; Ernie Conwell, TE (also No. 45) [96]; Aaron Cox, WR [88]; Leon Clarke, E [56]; Hal Dean, G [47]; Troy Drayton, TE [93]; George Farmer, WR [82]; Bob Long (different from No. 86), LB [60]; Shaun McDonald, WR [03]; Randy McMichael, TE [07]; Malcolm Moore, TE [87]; Andy Robustelli @, DE [51]; Chuck Scott, WR [86]; Ron Smith, WR [78]; Jack Snow, WR (passed away ‘06) [65]
85 -- Lamar Lundy, DE/TE [57]; Jack Youngblood* @ ^, DE [71]
86 -- Mike Barber, TE [82]; Jack Bighead, E [55]; Dominique Byrd, TE [06]; Ed Champagne, T, DT [47]; Jessie Hester, WR [94]; Mike Hoomanawanui, TE [10]; Damone Johnson, TE [86]; Ernie Jones, WR [93]; Aaron Laing, TE (also No. 45) [97]; Bob Long (different from No. 84), WR [70]; Brandon Manumaleuna, TE [01]; Marlin McKeever, LB (died 2006) [61]; Jeff Moore, WR [80]; Rod Sherman, WR [73]; Roland Williams, TE (see No. 88) [98]; Charley Young, TE [77]
87 -- John Adams, OE [63]; Richard Ashe, TE [90]; Anthony Becht, TE [08]; Cam Cleeland, TE [03] (also No. 82 in 05); Rick DiBernardo, LB [87]; Jon Embree, TE [87]; Drew Hill, WR (died 2011) [79]; Tony Hunter, TE [85]; Darcy Johnson, TE [10]; Ron Middleton, TE [94]; Jim Price, TE [91]; Ricky Proehl, WR [98]; Conrad Rucker, OL [80]; Dwight Scales, WR [76]; JT Thomas (see No. 18), WR [95]; Billy Truax, TE [65]; Aaron Walker, TE [06]
88 -- Chris Brantley, WR [94]; Pat Carter, TE [90]; Pat Curran, TE [69]; Preston Dennard, WR [78]; Troy Edwards, WR [02]; Chris Faulkner, TE [84]; Jake Fawcett, T ~ [46]; Karl Finch, OE [62]; Tony Guillory, LB [65]; Norb Hecker, DB [51]; Torry Holt, WR [99] (also No. 81); Glenn Holtzman, T [55]; Freeman Jones, WR [76]; Lance Kendricks, TE [11]; Eddie Kennison, WR [96]; Joe Klopfenstein, TE [06]; Sean LaChapelle, WR [93]; Willie Ponder, WR [06]; Phil Smith, WR [87]; Roland Williams, TE (also No. 86 in ‘05) [98]; Sam Williams, DE [53]; Michael Young, WR [85]
89 -- Tyji Armstrong, TE [98]; Ron Brown, WR (also No. 91 in ‘91) [84]; Richard Buchanan, WR [93]; Bob Carey, E [52]; Rick Cash, DE [69]; Jeff Chadwick, WR [92]; Mark Clayton, WR [10]; Fred Dryer, DE [72]; Derrick Faison, WR [90]; Lewis Gilbert, TE [81]; Mitch Jacoby, WR (see No. 46) [97]; Dane Looker, WR [03]; Mike McNeill, TE [12]; Ron Miller (not the same as QB No. 9), E/DE [56]; Jeff Simmons, WR [83] Alexander Wright, WR [95]
90 -- David Aupiu, LB [87]; Ed Brady, LB [84]; Michael Brockers, DT [12]; Larry Brooks, DT [72]; Adam Carriker, DT [07]; Sean Gilbert, DT [92]; Mike D. Jones, DE [98]; George Selvie, DE [10]; Jeff Zgonina, DT [99]
91 -- Kyle Borland, LB [87]; Ron Brown, WR (see No. 89) [84]; Kevin Green, LB [85]; Leonard Little, DE, LB (also No. 57) [98]; Chris Long, DE [08 (see also 72)]; Leslie O'Neal, D [96]; Troy Pelshak, LB [99]; Tony Woods, DE [93]
92 -- Lionel Barnes, DE/DT [99]; Richard Brown, LB [87]; Jim Kalafat, LB [87]; Damione Lewis, DT [01]; Eric Moore, DE [06]; Bryan Robinson, DE [97]; David Rocker, DT [91]; Eugene Sims, DE [10]
93 -- Kevin Carter, DT [95]; Jermelle Cudjo, DT (had No. 68) [10]; Brandon Green, DT [05]; Eric Hayes, DT [92]; Trevor Johnson, DE [07]; Chris Pike, DT [91]; Doug Reed, DT [83]; Hollis Thomas, DT [09]
94 -- Victor Adeyanju, DE [06]; Terry Crews, LB [91]; Bryce Fisher, DE [02]; Gaylon Hyder, DT [99]; Jeff Robinson, DE, LS, TE (usually No. 45) [97]; Robert Quinn, DE [11]; Ben Thomas, DT [91]; Alberto White, DE [95]
95 -- Justin Bannan, DT [11]; Jeff Brady, LB [93]; Dennis Edwards, DE [87]; Nate Hobgood-Chittick, DT [99]; Phil Murphy, DT [80]; Brad Ottis, DE [95]; Mike Piel, DT [88]; Clifton Ryan, DT [07]; Corey Sears, DE [98]; Fernando Smith, DE [00]
96 -- Doug Barnett, DE [82]; Marc Boutte, DT [92]; Jason Fisk, DT [06]; James Hall, DE [07]; Neil Hope, LB [87]; Brian Smith, DT, LB [89]; Jay Williams, DE [94]
97 -- Bob Cobb, DE [81]; La'Roi Glover, DT [06]; Tyoka Jackson, DE, DT [00]; Bruce Klostermann, LB [90]; Chuck Osborne, [96]; Gerald Robinson, DE [91]; Darell Scott, DT [09]; Sean Smith, DT [89]
98 -- Tom Harmon, RB [46]; Brian Howard, DT [04]; Jimmie Jones, DT [94]; Chris Maumalanga, DT [97]; Shawn Miller, DT [84]; Warren Powers, DE [92]; Fred Robbins, DT [10]; Grant Wistrom, DE [98]
99 -- Ray Agnew, DT [98]; James Harris, DE [96]; LaJuan Ramsey, DT [09]; Alvin Wright, DT [85]; Claude Wrotten, DT [06]; C.J. Ah You, DE [09 (also wore No. 98)]

*. Three Youngbloods, no relation -- except for true Rambrotherhood.
**. Heisman Trophy 2008 (Horvath – Ohio St., 1944; Baker – Oregon St., 1962).
***. Brothers Merlin & Phil Olsen played Rams DT, side by side, early 70s. Only two I know of in NFL, ever.

Many thanks to ClanRam for allowing me to place here part of my Rams passion -- and hobby! :)

GO RAMS IN 2013!

]]> RAM TALK RealRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-iv-iv-51728/ RAMS JERSEYS REMEMBERED, All-time: 2012 edition. Part III - IV http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-iii-iv-51727/ Tue, 21 May 2013 01:42:36 GMT :ram:

The list is divided in 25s or, four parts. This here is III / IV

Numbers 51 through 75. What players are missing here?
.

51 -– Brian Allen, LB [01]; George Andrews, LB [79]; Courtland Boulard, LB [02]; George Burman, C [68]; Blair Bush, OL [92]; Lou Cordileone, OL/DL [62]; Gerald Cowhig, FB/LB [47]; Brett Faryniarz, LB [88]; Joe Harris, LB [79]; Carlos Jenkins, LB [95]; Ken Kirk, C/LB [63]; David Lewis, LB [83]; Chris Matau, G [87]; John Morrow, C [56]; Rick Nuzum, C [77]; Brady Poppinga, LB [11]; Lorenzo Styles, LB [97]; Steve Sucic, RB [46]; Harland Svare, LB [53]; Norwood Vann, LB [84]; Will Witherspoon, LB [06]
52 -- George Andrews, LB [79]; Sam Anno, LB [87]; Steve Busic, LB [86]; Dexter Coakley, LB [05]; Justin Cole, LB [11]; Mike Jones, LB [97]; Rick Kay, LB [73]; Larry Kelm, LB [88]; Joe Kelly, LB [94]; John Pergine, LB [69]; Tommy Polley, LB [01]; Bill Swain, LB [63]; Cliff Thrift, LB [86]; Kyle Whittingham (Carey’s Bro., see No. 57), LB [87]
53 -- Gene Breen, LB [67]; Quinton Culberson, LB [07]; Nate Dingle, LB [97]; Cedric Figaro, LB [95]; Dominic Douglas, LB [09];Mike Henry, LB [62]; Howard Hickey ~, E [46]; Paris Lenon, LB [09]; Chris Martin, LB [93]; Jim Purnell, LB [69]; Fred Strickland, LB [88]; Jim Youngblood*, LB [74]; Brett Wallerstedt, LB [97]
54 -- Kole Ayi, LB [01]; Howard Carson LB [81]; Brandon Chillar, LB [04]; Brett Collins, LB [93]; Todd Collins, LB [99]; Dick Daugherty (see No. 50), G/LB [51]; Troy Dumas, LB [97]; Percell Gaskins, LB [96]; Eric Hill, LB [98]; Ed McGlasson, OL [80]; Bob Pifferini, LB [77]; Geoff Reece, C [76]; Bob Reinhard, T/DT [50]; Jack Reynolds, LB [70]; Dan Ryczek, C [78]; Scott Shanle, LB [03]; Joe Wendryhoski, C [64]; Mike Wilcher, LB [83]; Ray Yagiello, G [54]
55 -- Maxie Baughan, LB [66]; Jamal Brooks, LB [06]; Chris Clairborne, LB [05]; Bill Curry, [74]; Bob D'Marco, OL [75]; Paschall Davis, LB [95]; Bob DeLauer ~, C [46]; Carl Ekern, LB (passed away ‘90) [76]; Tom Fears @, WR/DB [48 (also used No. 80 in 1955)]; Mark Fields, LB [01]; Robert Jones, LB [96]; James Laurinaitis, LB [09]; Lou Michaels, DT/PK [58]; Glenell Sanders, LB [91]; Gary Stills, LB [08]; Robert Thomas, LB [02]; Leon White, LB [92]; Fred Whittingham (father of Carey and Kyle, see Nos. 52, 57), LB [64]; Phillip Ward, LB [98]
56 -- KC Asiodu, LB [09 (also used No. 50)]; Charlie Clemons, LB [97]; Dustin Cohen, LB [00]; Shane Conlan, LB [93]; Dean Halverson, LB [68]; Josh Hull, LB [10]; Art Hunter, C [60]; Frank Marchlewski, C [65]; Larry Morris, LB [55]; Hugh Pitts, LB [56]; Bruce Smith, RB [48]; Doug Smith, OL [78]; Raonall Smith, LB [06]; Mark Williams, LB [96]; Jack Zilly, DE/TE [47]
57 -- Jon Alston, LB [06]; O.J. Brigance, LB [01]; Sam Brown, LB [12]; Chris Chamberlain, LB [08]; Bob Dougherty, LB [57]; Trev Faulk, LB [04]; Britt Hager, LB [97]; Thomas Homco, LB [93]; Bill Jobko, LB [58]; Jim Laughlin, LB [84]; Leonard Little, LB/DE (also No. 91) [98]; Don Parish, LB [71]; Don Paul, LB [48]; Jim Peterson, LB [74]; Mike Reilly, LB [82]; Mel Rogers, LB [76]; Greg Westbrooks, LB [79]; Carey Whittingham (Kyle’s Bro., see No. 52), LB [87]; Doug Woodlief, LB [65]
58 -- Dan Currie, LB [65]; Don Davis, LB [01]; Jack Finlay, G [47]; Bob Griffin, OL [53]; Isaiah Kacyvenski, LB [06]; Jason Kyle, LB [00]; Cliff Livingston, LB [63]; Mike Morton, LB [99]; Isiah Robertson, LB [71]; Mel Owens, LB [81]; Roman Phifer, LB [91]; David Vobora, LB [08]; Drew Wahlroos, LB [04]
59 -- Bob Brudzinski, LB [77]; Paul Butcher, LB [90]; Jamie Duncan, LB [02]; London Fletcher, LB [98]; Larry Grant, LB [08]; Mark Jerue, LB [83]; Muadianvita, Kazadi, LB [97]; George Lilja, C [82]; Tim McGarigle, LB [07]; Henry Rolling, LB [93]; Ashley Sheppard, LB [95]
60 -- Jason Brown, C [09]; Steve Everitt, C [00]; Mike Gruttadauria, C [96]; Jon Guzik, LB [59 (No. 65 also)]; Dennis Harrah, OT [75]; Marv Harris, LB [64]; Rod Jones, OL [01]; Nick Leckey, OL [07]; Mark Messner, LB [89]; Blaine Saipaia, G [04]; Jerry Stalcup, LB [60]; Fred Stokes, DE [87 (also No. 65 in ‘93)]; John Wilbur, OL [70]
61 -- Tim Barnes, C [12]; Bern Brostek, OL [90]; Bill George @, LB [66]; Willie Hector, T [61]; David Loverne, G [03]; Tom Nütten, G [98]; Duane Putnam, G [52]; Rich Saul, OL [70]; Tony Slaton, G [85]; Mike Strofolino, LB [65]; Bruce Tarbox, G [61]
62 -- Roger Allen, G [09]; Bill Bain, G [79]; Don Chuy, G [63]; Harvey Dahl, T [11]; Dustin Fry, C/G [07]; John Houser, OL [57]; Bud McFadin, T/DT [52]; Vernice Smith, G [97]; Tom Taylor, G [87]; Adam Timmerman, G [99]; Jeff Williams, OT [77]
63 -- Jacob Bell, G [08]; Larry Brink, DE [52]; Joe Carollo, T [62 (also No. 70 in 1971)]; John Flannery C 98; Hank Goebel, T [87]; John Hock, C [53]; Greg Horton, G [76]; Heath Irwin, G [02]; Buck Lansford, G [58]; Mike McDonald, LB [84]; Scott Tercero, G [03]
64 -- Mike LaHood, OL (also No. 68 in '70) [69]; Roy Hord, OL [60]; Keith Loneker, OL [93]; Andy McCollum, C/G (also No. 67 in ‘04) [99]; Jack Reynolds [see No. 54], LB [70]; Gerald Perry, OL [91]; Joe Shearin, OL [83]; Greg Sinnott, T [87]; Joe Valerio, OL [96]; Stan West, OL/DL [51]; Dave Wohlabaugh, C [03]; Tony Wragge, C [11]
65 -- Rich Bishop, DT [83]; Ernest Dye, G [97]; Frank García, OL [01]; John Guzik, LB [59 (also No. 60)]; Art Hauser, T/G [54]; Jon Kirksey, DT [95]; Tom Mack @, G [66]; Jim Mello, RB [48]; Bret Romberg, C [06]; Don Simensen (also No. 76 in ‘52), T [51]; Fred Stokes, DE (see No. 60) [87]; Bob Thomason, QB [49]
66 -- Gil Bouley ~, OL (passed away ‘06) [46]; Bill Dunstan, DT [79]; Tom Newberry, G [86]; Joe Phillips, DL [98]; Myron Pottios, LB [66]; Booker Reese DE [84]; Mark Setterstrom, G [06]; Harley Sewell, G [63]; Bob Stein, LB [73]; Corey Swinson, OL [95]; Harry Thompson (also No. 44 in ‘54), G [50]; Rex Tucker, OL [05]; Eric Williams, LB [82]; Brian Young, DT [00]; Jack Zilly, TE/DE [47]
67 -- Roger Davis, G [64]; Urban Henry, DT [61]; Charlie Janerette, OL [60]; Myron Lapka, DT [82]; Duval Love, OL [85]; Bryan Mattison, G [11]; Andy McCollum, C (see No. 64) [99]; Bill Nelson, DT [71?]; Dave Purling, DE [87]; Les Richter (also No. 48), LB / OL [54]; Roy Schuening, G [08]; Mike Verstegen, G [98]; Dwayne White, G [95]
68 -- Joe Barksdale, T [12]; George Bethune, LB [89]; Jack Finlay, G [47]; Sid Fournet, DL, OL [55]; Ed Fulton, OL [78]; Dennis Harrison, DE [85]; Richie Incognito, C [06]; Andy King, OL [02]; Mike Lahood (see No. 64), OL [69]; Jim Skow, DE [92]; Pete Swanson, G [00]; Navy Tuiasosopo, C [87]; Kyle Turley, OT [03]
69 -- Leger Douzable, DT [09]; Jesse James, OL [95]; Greg Meisner, DT [81]; Jeff Pahukoa, OL [91]
70 -- Alex Barron, OT [04]; Dave Cahill, DT [67]; Joe Carollo, T [62 (see No. 63)]; Al Cowlings, DE [75]; Charles Dejurnett, DT [82]; Renardo Foster, [10]; Wayne Gandy, OT [94]; Bill Hawkins, DL [89]; Kevin Hughes, T [11]; Mitch Johnson, OL [69]; Willie Jones, T [99]; John St. Clair, OL [02]; Gene Selawski, T [59]; Charles Toogood, DL/OL [51]; Navy Tuiasosopo, C [87]; Frank Varrichione, OT [61]; Jerry Wilkinson, DE [79]
71 -– Chuck Belin, G [93]; Tom Dahms, T [52 (possibly shared No. with Frank Fuller in ‘53)]; Paul Dickson, T [59]; Reggie Doss, DL [78]; Frank Fuller, DT [53 (see Tom Dahms, same No.)]; Gary Gibson, DT [09]; Ted Karras, G [66]; Joe Milinichik, OL [90]; Kaulana Noa, OL [00]; Rob Pettiti, OL [07]; Joe Scibelli, OG [61]; Cameron Spikes (also No. 73), G [99]
72 -- Chidi Ahanotu, DE [01]; Milford Brown, OL [07]; Robert Cox, OL [91]; Jack Ellena, G/LB [55]; Kent Hill, G [79]; Clarence Jones, OL [94]; John Kennerson, DL [60]; Earl Leggett, DL [66]; Chris Long, DE [08 (see also 91)]; Phil Olsen*** [Merlin's Bro.], DT [71]; Roger Pillath, T [65]; Kevin Robbins, T [93]; Diron Talbert, DT [67]
73 -- Russ Bollinger, OL [83]; Charlie Cowan OT [61]; Bobby Cross, T [54]; Adam Goldberg, G [06]; Gordon Gravelle, T [79]; Jimmy Kennedy, DT [03]; Phil McKinnely, T [81]; Fred Miller, OL [96]; Ken Panfil, T [56]; Cameron Spikes (see No. 71), G [99]; Kelly Thomas, T [87]; Zach Wiegert, OL [95]; Ron Yary, OT [82]
74 -- John Baker (see No. 4; also wore No. 78), DL [58]; Merlin Olsen*** @ ^, DT (passed away in ‘10) [62]; Len Teeuws, T/DT (died in 2006) [52]
75 -- D'Marco Farr, DT [94]; Bob Fry, T [53]; Tom Gibson, DE [91]; Deacon Jones @ ^, DE [61]; Irv Pankey, OL [80]; Claude Terrell, G [05]; John Williams, OL [72] ]]> RAM TALK RealRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-iii-iv-51727/ RAMS JERSEYS REMEMBERED, All-time: 2012 edition. Part II - IV http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-ii-iv-51726/ Tue, 21 May 2013 01:02:27 GMT :ram:

The list is divided in 25s or, four parts. This here is II / IV

Numbers 26 through 50. What players are missing here?
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26 -- John Arnett, RB [57]; Willie Brown (also No. 42) RB [64]; Aveion Cason, RB (see No. 82) [01]; Eric Harris, CB [83]; June Henley, RB [98]; Tye Hill, CB [06]; John Ksionzyk, QB, [47]; Bill Lange, G [51]; Anthony Newman, DB [88]; Joe Pasqua ~, T [46]; Albie Reisz ~, QB [46]; Joffrey Reynolds, RB [03]; Jim Stiger, RB [65]; Wendell Tyler, RB [77]
27 -- Pervis Atkins, RB [61]; Matt Bowen, DB [00]; Dwaine Carpenter, S [05]; Bob Collier, T/DT [51]; Irv Cross, CB [66]; Gary Green, DB [84]; Greg Hill, RB [98]; Marvin Johnson, [51]; Milan Lazetich ~, G [46]; Sammy Lilly, CB [91]; Brad Myers, RB [53]; Ricky Manning, DB [08]; Quintin Mikell, S [11]; Anthony Parker, DB [96]; Mitchell Price, CB [93]; David Ray, K/WR [69]; David Roach, DB [08]; Pat Thomas, DB [76]; Ron Waller, RB [55]; James Whitley, CB [02]
28 -- Robert Bailey, CB [92]; David Croudip, CB [84]; Ken Ellis, CB [79]; Marshall Faulk, RB [99]; Cliff Hicks, DB [87]; Monte Jackson, CB [75]; Greg Robinson, RB [95]; Pat Studstill, WR [68]; David Thompson, RB [97]; Mike Williams, DB [83]
29 -- Eric Dickerson @ ^, RB [83]; Jack Dwyer, RB [52]; Harold Jackson, WR [68; 73]; Sid Justin, CB [79]; Tommy McDonald @, FL [65]; Del Shofner, WR, P [57]
30 -- Bob Agler, RB [48]; Bill Bowers, DB [54]; Tony Fisher, RB [06]; Bruce Gossett, K [65]; Gaston Green, RB [88]; Harold Green, RB [96]; Howard Griffith, RB [93]; Woodley Lewis (see No. 20), DB/E [50]; Lawrence McCutcheon, RB [73]; Nate Ness, CB [11]; Antonio Pittman, RB [07]; Lewis, Woodley, DB/E [50]; Steve Pritko ~, WR [46]; Barry Redden, RB [82]; Mosi Tatupu, FB [91]; Ron Wolfley, RB [95]
31 -- Adam Archuleta, S [02]; Lynn Cain, RB/WR [85]; Jason Craft, DB [08]; Larry Hayes, C [62]; Dick Hoerner, RB [47]; Cortland Finnegan, CB [12]; Marcus Holliday, RB [96]; Steve Israel, CB [92]; Alfred Jackson, CB [89]; Jeff Jordan, RB [70]; Carl Karilivacz, DB [59]; Justin King, CB [08]; Amp Lee, RB [97]; Dante Mergenthal ~, G [46]; Jack Myers, RB/DB [52]; Ernie Thompson, RB [91]; Alonzo Williams, RB [87]
32 -- Rich Alexis, RB [06]; Dre Bly, CB [99]; Cullen Bryant, RB [73]; Bradley Fletcher, DB [09]; Brent Moss, RB [95]; Jack Pardee, LB (passed away Apr. 1, '13) [57]; J.R. Reed, RB [06]; Robert Shaw ~, E [46]; Anthony Thomas, RB [92]; Anthony Thompson, RB [92]; Ernie Thompson, RB [91]; Dan Towler (also No. 22), RB [52]; Tim Tyrrell, RB [86]; Toby Wright, CB [94]
33 -- Jack Banta, RB [46]; Kenneth Darby, RB [08 (also No. 34)]; Willie Ellison, RB [67]; Arlen Harris, RB [03]; Kay-Jay Harris, RB [06]; Ollie Matson @, RB/E/DB [59]; Dwayne O'Steen, CB [78]; Quinton Pointer, DB [12]; Rob Scribner, RB [73]; Jewerl Thomas, RB [80]; Justin Watson, RB [99]; Charles White, RB [85]; Jerry Williams (also No. 22 in 52), DB [49]
34 -- Mel Bleeker, RB [47]; Fahkir Brown, CB [06]; Don Currivan, DE (see No. 40) [48]; Kenneth Darby, RB (see No. 33) [08]; Donald Evans, FB [87]; Mel Farr [Jr.], RB [89]; Lamar Gordon, RB [02]; Derrick Harris, RB [96]; Craig “Ironhead” Heyward (passed away ‘06), RB [97]; Les Josephson, RB [62 (wore No. 35 during one regular season game Vs. Dallas on Oct. 1, 1967 because his 34 jersey was ripped during play)]; Tim Lester, RB [92]; Joe Marconi, RB [56]; Jerious Norwood, RB [11]; Elvis Peacok, RB [79]; Glenn Shaw, RB [62]; Dave Stephenson, G [50]
35 -- Tony Baker, RB [73]; Kevin Dockery, CB [10]; Henry Dyer, FB [66]; Jon Francis, RB [87]; Samkon Gado, RB [08]; Todd Johnson, S [07]; Les Josephson, RB [62 (see No. 34)]; Keith Lyle, DB [94]; Quinn Porter, RB [11]; Joe Reid, LB [51]; Bob Thomas, RB [71]; Vic Vasicek, LB [50]; Aeneas Williams, CB [01]; Paul Younger, RB/LB [49]
36 -- Jerome Bettis, RB [93]; Quincy Butler, S [08]; Paige Cothren, K/RB [57]; Ken Geddes, DB [71]; Dan Halliday, DT [51]; Dan Kreider, RB [08]; Kirby Jackson, DB [87]; Jerry Latin, RB [78]; Ralph Pasquariello, RB [50]; Chris Smith, DB [11]; Pat West ~, RB [46]; Frank Williams, FB [61]; Henry Williams, DB [83]; Ben Wilson, RB [63]
37 -- James Butler, DB [09]; Chad Cota, DB [02]; Bill Drake, DB [73]; Vilnis Ezerins º, RB [68]; Chris Johnson, DB [05]; Jimmy Jones, RB [58]; Art Perkins, RB [62]; Reggie Richardson, S [87]; Ivory Sully, DB [80]; Pat Terrell, S [90]; Tom Wilson (see No. 24), RB [56]; James Washington, S [88]
38 -- Fred Bruney, DB [58]; Rob Carpenter, RB [86]; Rich Coady, S (also No. 25) [99]; Josh Gordy, DB []; David Lang, RB [91]; Larry Smith, RB [69]; Keith Toston, RB [10]; Marquis Walker, CB [96]; Jim Winkler, DT/G [51 (also No. 78 in ‘52)]
39 -- Kermit Alexander, DB [70]; Robert Delpino, RB [88]; Steven Jackson, RB [04]; Israel Lang, RB [69]; Jeremy Lincoln, CB [96]; Rod Phillips, RB [75]; Woody Strode◊, OE [46]
40 -- Don Currivan, DE (also No. 34 in ‘49) [48]; Elroy Hirsch @, E/RB[49]; Jack Morris, DB [58]; Chester Pudloski ~, T [46]; Eberie Schultz ~, T [46]
41 -- Eric Bassey, CB [07]; Jim Cason, DB [55]; Mario Celotto, LB [81]; Lindon Crow, DB [61]; Glenn Davis (see No. 19), RB [50]; Jeff Delaney, DB [80]; Leslie Lear ~, G [46]; Todd Lyght, DB [91]; Eddie McMillan, CB [73]; Ron Smith, S [68]; Nick Sorensen, S [01]; Frank Wattelet, S [87]; Ed Zeman, S [87]
42 -- Greg Bell, RB [87]; Latin Berry, CB [90]; Willie Brown (also No. 26), RB [64]; Kirk Collins, DB [81]; Dave Elmendorf, DB [71]; Courtney Griffin, DB [93]; James Hodgins, FB [99]; Aaron Martin, CB [64]; Herman O'Berry, DB [96]; Chris Pacheco, NT [87]; Joe Repko, DT [48]; Herb Rich, DB [51]; Joe Rowe, CB [97]; Leonard Russell, RB [95]; Jason Sehorn, S [03]; Casey Tiumalu, RB [87]
43 -- Russ Coyle, DB [61]; Craig Dahl, S [08]; Mike Dennis, RB [68]; Roger Eason ~, OL [46]; Cleveland Gary, RB [89]; Jim Jodat, FB [77]; Mike Pleasant, CB [84]; Jerry Richardson, DB [64]; Will Sherman, DB [54]; Greg Williamson, CB [87]
44 -- Al Clark, CB [72]; Don Ellersick, DB [60]; Joey Goodspeed, FB [03]; Gaston Green, RB 89; Mike Guman, FB [80]; Jim Harris, DB [58]; Ray Hamilton ~, E/DE [46]; Madison Hedgecock, FB [05]; Chris Hetherington, FB [02]; Mike Karney, RB [09]; Chuck Lamson, DB [65]; Larry Marshall, WR [78]; Jake McQuaide, LS [11 (has also used No. 45)]; Jerald Moore, RB [96]; Nate Shaw, DB [69]; Alan Sparkman, DT [48]; Harry Thompson (also No. 66 in ‘50), G [50]; Lee White, RB [72]; Russell White, RB [93]; Nat Whitmyer, DB [63]; Jesse Whittenton, DB [56]
45 -- Jim Bertelsen, RB [72]; Frank Budka, DB [64]; Ernie Conwell, TE (also No. 84) [96]; Dwayne Crutchfield, RB [84]; John Griffin, DB [63]; Mike Holovak, RB[46]; Aaron Laing, TE (also No. 86) [97]; Darren Long, TE [86]; Chris Massey LS [02]; Jake McQuaide, LS [11 (is usually No. 44)]; Jeff Robinson, DE, LS, TE (also No. 94 in ‘01) [97]; George Youngblood*, DB [66]
46 -- Willie Daniel, DB [67]; Torin Dorn CB [95]; Herman Edwards (former KC HC), DB [86]; Tom Farmer ~, RB [46]; Daniel Fells, TE [08]; Hank Gremminger, DB [66]; Alvin Hall, DB [61]; Darryl Hall, [87]; Bob Holladay, DB/RB [56]; Frank Hubbell, DE/E [47]; Mitch Jacoby, WR (also No. 89 in 98) [97]; Holbert Johnson, DB [87]; John Kamana, RB/TE [84]; Andy V. Sonn, LB [64]; Clendon Thomas, DB/HB [58]; Roger Williams, DB [72]
47 -- Billy Bajema, TE [09]; Marv Cook, TE [95]; LeRoy Irwin, CB [80]; Ryan McNeil, CB [97]; Spencer Nead, FB [03]; Carver Shannon, DB/RB [62]; Charlie Stukes, CB [73]; Vernon Valdez, DB [60]; Kelton Winston, DB [67]
48 -- Richard Angulo, TE [03]; Stephen Davis, RB [06]; Don Doll, DB [54]; Tim Fox, DB [85]; Bob Hecker, DB [52]; Bobby Humphery, CB [90]; Matt Maslowski, WR [71]; Fendi Onobun, TE [10]; Les Richter LB/OL @, (also No. 67 in ’62; passed away in 2010), [54]; Craig Ruthledge, S [87]; Bill Simpson, S [74]; Cecil Taylor, RB [55]
49 -- Jim Benton ~, E [46]; Claude Crabb, DB [66]; Ed Hughes, DB [54]; Floyd Iglehart, DB [58]; Chad Lewis, TE [99]; John Love, WR [72]; Carl Mayes, RB [52]; Brit Miller, RB [10]; Richard Owens, FB/TE [07]; Rod Perry, DB [75]; Mickey Sutton, DB [86]
50 -- KC Asiodu, LB [09 (also used No. 56)]; Jim Collins, LB [81]; Dick Daugherty, G/LB [51 (also No. 54)]; Bob DeFruiter, NT [48]; Dana Howard, LB [95]; Ken Iman, C [65]; Bryan Kehl, LB [10]; Kevin McLain, LB [76]; Leon McLaughlin, C [51]; Paul Rickards, RB/QB [48]; Frank Stams LB [89]; Scott Stephen, LB [92]; Larry Stephens, DT [62]; Pisa Tinoisamoa, LB [03]; Ryan Tucker, OT [96]; Verda 'Vitamin T' Smith, RB [49 (also No. 77)]; Jack Wilson, RB [46]

*. Three Youngbloods (George, Jack, and Jim), no relation - except for true Rambrotherhood. ]]> RAM TALK RealRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-ii-iv-51726/ RAMS JERSEYS REMEMBERED, All-time: 2012 edition. Part I - IV http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-i-iv-51725/ Mon, 20 May 2013 23:58:01 GMT *St. Louis Rams: 1946-2012* Image: http://www.nflfootballpicks.org/content_images/stl-rams-a.jpg *Dear Rams aficionados / ClanRam faithful,* Alright amigos! Midway through the 2013 offseason, I think. Time for some more fan extra-activity to play around with and/or to research ... or just plain remember. Consider it a mild therapy to help ease the offseason pain. :)

St. Louis Rams: 1946-2012

Dear Rams aficionados / ClanRam faithful,

Alright amigos! Midway through the 2013 offseason, I think. Time for some more fan extra-activity to play around with and/or to research ... or just plain remember.

Consider it a mild therapy to help ease the offseason pain. :)

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Not every player that is accepted by a team, ANY TEAM, turns out to be a reason to be proud, unfortunately. I'm referring to us as fans or for that matter, the team itself. But the fact is, these players below donned our Rams jersey and even if for a fleeting moment, they were warriors in battle, professionals in the NFL; maybe their 15 seconds of fame.

This list pretends to remember both hero as well as helper of past and present Rams teams, from HOF Super Stars to the obscure, forgotten names. See if you notice a jersey name / number missing but please don't get carried away -- let others participate, yes?

Would appreciate your help in updating this to last year. Just post your players (from 1946 to 2012) and I'll place him on the list.

The list is divided in 25s or, four parts. This here is I / IV

Numbers 0 through 25
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From the 'JERSEYS' thread initiated five years ago, this here is the main ingredient, the nitty gritty, the JERSEY NUMBERS and the PLAYERS who sported them as far back as 1946 and as recently as 2012. I thought of including the Cleveland Rams but that is simply too far beyond my scope / time.

Let's see then if we can update the list w/names currently missing

shall we?

:helmet: ...BTW, we're one of the few teams in pro sports to cover ALL #s 0-99. ADD-ON!

RAMS JERSEYS REMEMBERED

NOTE: with a few exceptions from those that came from the Cleveland Rams era and played in L.A., (indicated by a ~, see also other symbol legends at top and bottom of list), the compilation contemplates Ram players from the Los Angeles and St. Louis teams ONLY, i.e., 1946 through 2012.

Though "unofficial", over 95% of entries below have been carefully checked and confirmed through the research, memory and love of the Rams fans that have followed and supported their team of over half a century. NFL RAMS: history and passion!

Listed are Rams players with at least
ONE REGULAR SEASON GAME.

LAST NAME IN ALPHA ORDER BY JERSEY NUMBER

Symbols:
@. Enshrined in NFL HOF.
~. See Cleveland Rams note above.
º. 1st non-US citizen drafted in Rams history.
^. Honored w/retiring of Rams jersey No. after illustrious career.
◊. First African-Americans to play in NFL modern era (post WWII).
>. Designed, painted 1st insignia on NFL helmets: 1948 Los Angeles Rams!
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JERSEY No. - LAST NAME - POSITION - 1st yr. w/TEAM [in brackets]
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0 -- Steve Bagarus, RB [47]
1 -- Mike Lansford, K [82]; Rafael Septien, K [77]; Matt Turk P [06]
2 -- Mike Horan, P [97]
3 –- Ben Agajanian, K [53]; Josh Brown, K [08]; Rich Camarillo, K [88]; Frank Corral, K [78]; Dale Hatcher, P [85]; Steve McLaughlin, K [95]; Pete Stoyanovich, K [00]
4 -- John Baker (no relation to No. 78), P [00]; Scott Covington, QB [02]; Dean Biasucci, K [95]; A. J. Feeley, QB [11]; Steve Fuller, QB [83]; Steve Walsh, QB [96]
5 -- Dieter Brock, QB [85]; Dick Gordon, WR [72]; Donnie Jones, P [07]; Sean Landeta, P [93]
6 -- Don Bracken, P [93]; Johnny Hekker, P [12]; Carlos Huerta, K [96]; John Misko, P [83]
7 -- Bob Waterfield ~ ^ @, QB/K [46]
8 -- Sam Bradford**, QB [10]; Steve Dills, QB [84]; Keith English, P [90]; Clyde “Big” Johnson ~, T [46]; Chip Lohmiller, K [96]; Tommy Maddox, QB [94]; Jamie Martin, QB (also Nos. 9, 10, 11, 12) [93]; Jeff Rutledge, QB [79]
9 -- Paul Barry, RB [50]; Jerry Cowhig, RB [47]; Will Furrer, QB [97]; Joe Germaine, QB [99]; Barry Helton, P [91]; Mark Herrmann, QB [88]; Rusty Jackson, P [76]; Jeff Kemp, QB [81]; Jamie Martin, QB (see Nos. 8, 10, 11, 12) [93]; Ron Miller (not the same as WR No. 89), QB [62]; Keith Null, QB [09]; Bernard Quarles, QB [87]; Billy Wade, QB [54]
10 -- Steve Bartkowski, QB [86]; Will Brice, P [97]; Rudy Bukich, QB [53]; Marc Bulger, QB [01]; Don Chapple, P [72]; Kellen Clemens, QB [11]; Tom Dempsey, K [75]; Trent Green, QB [99 ('00)]; Buddy Humphrey, QB [59]; Tom Keane, DB [48] Don Klosterman, QB [52]; Billy Lothridge, P [65]; Jamie Martin, QB (see Nos. 8, 9, 11, 12) [93]; Dan Pastorini, QB [81]; Karl Sweetan, QB [69]; Kurt Warner, QB [98] (mostly used No. 13); Tony Zendejas, K [91]
11 -- Mike Burke, P [74]; Jim Everett, QB [86]; Brandon Gibson, WR [09]; Pat Haden, QB [76]; Jamie Martin, QB (wore 11 in ’05; see Nos. 8, 9, 10, 12) [93]; Laurent Robinson, WR [09]; Marc Rypien, QB [95]; Norm Van Brocklin @, QB (also No. 13, 25) [49]; Rich Tuten, P [98]; Danny Villanueva, K [60]
12 -- Tony Banks, QB [96]; Pete Beathard, QB [72]; Kyle Boller, QB [09]; Tom Brandstater, QB [11]; Zeke Bratkowski, QB [61]; Ryan Fiztpatrick, QB [05]; Gus Frerotte, QB [06]; James Harris, QB [76]; Les Horvath**, RB [47]; Jamie Martin, QB (wore 12 in ’04; see Nos. 8, 9, 10, 11) [93]; [93]; Hugh Millen, QB [87]; Chris Miller, QB (also No. 13 in 95) [94]; Joe Namath @, QB [77]; T. J. Rubley, QB [92]
13 – Brock Berlin, QB [07]; Steve Bono, QB [98]; Ken Clark, P [79]; Chris Givens, WR [12]; Jon Kilgore, P [65]; Riley Matheson ~, G/LB [46]; Chris Miller, QB (see No. 12) [94]; Chuck Nelson, K [83]; Lance Rentzel, WR [71] (see No. 19); Norm V. Brocklin, QB (also No. 11, 25) [49]; Kurt Warner, QB [98] (always donned No. 13 but also used No. 10 in 1999); Ken Washington ◊, DB RB [46]
14 -- Keenan Burton, WR [08]; Mike Pagel, QB [91]; Wendell Tucker, WR [67]; Jeff Wilkins, K [97]
15 -- Terry Baker**, QB [63]; Tim Carter, WR [09]; Dominique Curry, WR [10]; Vince Ferragamo, QB [77]; Roger Harding ~, DB [46]; Frank Ryan, QB [58]
16 -- Danny Amendola, WR [09]; Dave Barr, QB [95]; Don Bracken, P [92]; Bob Hoffman, RB [46]; Ron Jaworski, QB [74]; Paul Justin, QB [99]; Chuck Long, QB [90]; Paul McJulien, P [93]; Milt Plum, QB [68]; Donald Sellers, WR [97]; Brandon Williams, WR [07]
17 -- Donnie Avery, WR [08]; Mitch Berger, P [02]; Duane Carrell, P [75]; Charley Britt, DB [60]; Chris Chandler, QB [94]; Bert Jones, QB [82]; Dan McIlhany, S [65]; Nick Miller, WR [11]; Richie Petitbon, DB [69]; George Simms, DB [49]; Jerry Rhome, QB [71]
18 -- John Carney, K [90]; Roman Gabriel, QB [62]; Fred Gehrke > ~, RB [46]; Jimmy Raye Jr., WR [91]; Travis Taylor, WR [07]; JT Thomas (also No. 87 in ‘97), WR [95]; Glen Walker, P [77]
19 -- Glenn Davis, RB [50 (also No. 41)]; Tom “Cricket” Kalmanir, RB [49 (also No. 24)]; Bob Lee, QB [79]; Bill Munson, QB [63]; Jim Nettles, DB [69]; Lance Rentzel WR [71] (see No. 13); Derek Stanley, WR [08]; Glenn Walker, P [77]; Billy Williams, WR [95]; Donnie Williams, WR [70]
20 -- Taje Allen, CB [97]; Johnny Bailey, RB [94]; Keith Crawford, CB [97]; Steve Heckard, E [65]; Darryl Henley, CB [89]; Kim Herring, S [01]; Dick Huffman, T [47]; Johnnie Johnson, DB [81]; Woodley Lewis (also No. 30 in ‘52), DB/E [50]; Tommy Mason, RB [67]; Tim Powell, DE [65]; Steve Preece, S [73]; Ralph Ruthstrom ~, RB [46]; Darian Stewart, S [10]; Jonathan Wade, CB [07]; Jackie Wallace, DB [77]
21 -- Oshiomogho Atogwe, S [05]; Deral Boykin, S [93]; Alex Bravo, DB [57]; Nolan Cromwell, S [77]; Tom Dahms, T [51]; Jim Hardy, QB [46]; John Hadl, QB [73]; Gene Howard, DB [71]; Dexter McCleon, CB (also No. 24 in ‘01) [97]; Eddie Meador, S [59]; Lawrence Phillips, RB [96]; Tony Plummer, DB [74]; Volney “Skeet” Quinlan, RB [52]; John Reece, CB [95]; Art Statuto, C [50]; Troy Stradford, RB [92]; Rodney Thomas, CB [91]; Curt Warner [the "other one"], RB [90]
22 -- Dick Bass, RB (passed away ‘06) [60]; John Cappelletti, RB [74]; Marcus Dupree, RB [90]; Travis Fisher, CB [02]; Emile Harry, WR[92]; Hall Haynes, DB [54]; Brian Jackson, CB [11]; Billy Jenkins, S [97]; Trumaine Johnson, CB [12]; Michael Lewis, S [10]; Travis Minor, RB [07]; Lydell Mitchell, RB [80]; Fred Naumetz, C/LB [46]; Vince Newsome, DB [83]; Chris Ogbonnaya, RB [09]; Jairo Penaranda, RB [81]; Elijah Pitts, RB [70]; Marquez Pope, CB [94]; Mike Scurlock, CB [95]; Sam Seale, CB [93]; Jacoby Shepherd, CB [00]; Ray Shiver, DB [56]; Dan Towler (also No. 32 [and 35?]), RB [50]; Jerry Williams (also No. 33 in 49), DB [49]
23 -- Devin Bush, DB [99]; Jerametrius Butler, DB [01]; Mac Byrd, LB [65]; Jesse Castete, DB [56]; Anthony Davis, RB [78]; Alvin Haymond, DB [69]; Brian Leonard, RB [07]; Gerald McBurrows, S [95]; John Martin, C [47]; Tom McCormick, RB [53]; Jerome Murphy, CB [10]; Ricky Odom, DB [79]; Cord Parks, DB [09]; Bobby Smith, DB [62]; Lucious Smith, CB [80]; Michael Stewart, DB [88]
24 -- Ron Bartell, S [06]; Trung Canidate, RB [02]; Ron Carpenter, S [98]; DeJuan Groce, CB [03]; Wymon Henderson, CB [93]; Eddie Hill, RB [79]; A. J. Jones, RB [82]; Tom “Cricket” Kalmanir, RB [49 (also No. 19)]; Dante Magnani ~, RB [46]; Dexter McCleon, CB (see No. 21) [97]; Bufford McGee, RB [87]; Willie McGee, WR [74]; Clancy Williams, DB [65]; Tom Wilson (also No. 37 in ’58; passed away ‘06), RB [56]
25 -- Duane Allen, E [61]; Eddie Brown, S [78]; Don Burroughs, DB [55]; Bernie Casey, WR [67]; Corey Chavous, DB [06]; Rich Coady, S (also No. 38) [99]; Joe Corn, RB [48]; Chris Crooms, S [92]; Danny Gorrer, DB [09]; Jerry Gray, DB [85]; Robert Holcombe, RB [98]; Marquis Johnson, CB [10]; Gordon Jones, WR [83]; Tom Moore, RB [66]; Norm V. Brocklin, QB (also No. 11, 13) [49]; Travis Williams, RB [71]

**. Heisman Trophy 2008 (also, L. Horvath – Ohio St., 1944; T. Baker – Oregon St., 1962). ]]> RAM TALK RealRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/rams-jerseys-remembered-all-time-2012-edition-part-i-iv-51725/ Bradford vs. Eli Manning http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/bradford-vs-eli-manning-51723/ Sat, 18 May 2013 22:12:35 GMT Via the NFC West mailbag, Ryan from Montreal sees parallels between Eli Manning and Sam Bradford through their first three seasons.

Both quarterbacks were drafted No. 1 overall in their classes. Both endured criticism during some rocky stretches. Both also flashed the talent that made them highly drafted players.

Eli Manning vs. Sam Bradford: 1st 3 Yrs.

QB	Manning	Bradford
Seasons	3	3
Games	41	42
W-L	20-19	15-26
Comp.	690	873
Att.	1,276	1,498
Pct.	54.1	58.3
Yards	8,049	9,378
YPA	6.3	6.3
TD-INT	54-44	45-34
NFL rating	73.2	77.3
Sacked	66	105
Total QBR	--	42.3
Source: ESPN Stats & Information

We know how the story has played out for Manning. He moved past the early struggles, becoming a top starting quarterback (most of the time) and winning two Super Bowls.

"I could be wrong," Ryan writes, "but I feel like some of the rhetoric Bradford is experiencing existed with Manning. Though Manning had a better record, a quick look at their stats reveals they are not too dissimilar."

Good idea, Ryan. The chart shows statistical similarities. We do not yet have Total QBR figures before 2008, but the traditional stats line up pretty closely in areas such as yards per pass attempt.

Manning did enjoy one tremendous advantage. The New York Giants organization has been among the most stable in the league. Manning has had the same head coach, Tom Coughlin, and offensive coordinator, Kevin Gilbride, for the duration of his career. Bradford has had two head coaches and three offensive coordinators in his first three seasons.

Manning and the Giants broke through with a Super Bowl victory in Manning's fourth season. Manning finished that 2007 regular season with 23 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions. The ratio was 6-1 in the playoffs as the Giants won road games against Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay before upsetting New England in the Super Bowl.

The Giants went from 8-8 in Manning's third season to 10-6 in his fourth. Bradford and the Rams were 7-8-1 last season. Conventional wisdom says the Rams will be the third-best team in the NFC West. The 2007 Giants finished second to Philadelphia in the NFC East. Before that season, 16 of 16 ESPN analysts picked someone other than the Giants to win the NFC. ]]> RAM TALK Battering_RAMS http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/bradford-vs-eli-manning-51723/ Ya Just Never Know .. http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/ya-just-never-know-51722/ Sat, 18 May 2013 21:40:00 GMT One of the 1999 GSOT's greatest assets was having the option of spreading the ball around to some really talented players.( Bruce, Holt, Faulk, Az, Proehl, Conwell, Holcomb, Amp Lee and so on) When opposing defenses tried to nullify one guy, Warner simply went to someone else. For a while opposing defenses really were forced to pick their poison trying to defend the Rams. It appears Jeff Fisher may have taken notes judging from this year's draft harvest.

Sam Bradford is an extremely intense competitor. Those of you who have attended games at the Dome and stood along the "gauntlet" as the players entered prior to games have no doubt seen that look of intensity on his face when entering. Additionally he’s a quick study. How frustrating must the last few years have been for him?! If you think back and realize how much better the Rams were just when Danny A. was healthy and on the field, it is remarkable. Danny and “Jack” were the backbone of our offense. Sure there were other occasional contributors, but the only guy that scared anyone was maybe Givens. Not a lot of options for Sam.

Fast forward to this year, same offensive scheme (for the 1st time in his pro career), and some honest to God talent to utilize around him – I’d guess Sam’s pretty excited about now.

Recently Jerry Jones made the news as frequently he is wont to do, by saying he desires more input from Tony Schmomo regarding offensive game planning, and installing/calling plays. Way to go Jerry! At least you’re consistent in undermining your head coaches.

The Rams appear to be embracing a similar role for Sam, however, this is coming from our coaching staff, not the owner/GM. Sam will be encouraged to take over the offense now that he’s had some experience. Couple that with a large infusion of talented new skill players on offense, and this team may make a mega-leap in scoring. It is certainly not impossible.

No huddle, spread, pro-style, hybrid, all that good stuff should be forthcoming this year. Sammy will have increased freedom to mix and match as the season unfolds. I hope and pray Jake Long will be healthy in time for the regular season along with Saffold. We could really surprise people this year. No – I’m not making predictions, but last year I wasn’t expecting us to do as well as we did. We just didn’t have the horsepower on offense – not even on paper. This year 10 wins doesn’t sound completely out of the question. I am not saying we are going to win 10 games. Rather, if we did win ten, I wouldn't be totally shocked. Ten wins would have sounded preposterous to me at the outset of last year. Ten wins would have sounded outrageously optimistic to me back at the beginning of the 1999 season too. The 2013 roster is at least the best we've looked on paper in a while. So? Ya just never know .. ]]> RAM TALK MauiRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/ya-just-never-know-51722/ New Stedman Bailey Highlights from his junior season http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/new-stedman-bailey-highlights-his-junior-season-51721/ Sat, 18 May 2013 15:19:46 GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTg9FJmtQ8 ]]> RAM TALK Northernwv http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/new-stedman-bailey-highlights-his-junior-season-51721/ Third Day Gems: RB Stacy http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/third-day-gems-rb-stacy-51720/ Sat, 18 May 2013 06:46:54 GMT Josh Norris Friday, May 17, 2013 As much as I value pre-draft evaluations, the prospect’s landing spot is a pivotal part of the process. Few talents can transcend any scheme and impact their team’s success. In fact, plenty of starters and contributors at the NFL level only fill certain roles and might not be considered a long term starter at that position. It is all about figuring out where a player wins and giving them a chance to succeed in that area. In this series I will take a look at prospects selected on the third day that could offer an immediate impact thanks to their strengths and situations. I will never call myself an expert on the coverages and schemes that are included, but I am working hard to learn, so feel free to (politely) point me in the right direction. With that said, I cannot recommend this defensive write up by Jene Bramel enough. Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer has some new toys to play with this season in the form of Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Jared Cook and the (hopefully) improving Brian Quick. On top of that, the Rams attempted to upgrade the offensive line, an aspect of the team that has suffered due to injuries and a lack of talent. In total, I expect Schottenheimer to expand on his Air Coryell playbook and get creative. These athletic targets will certainly help the passing game, but with Steven Jackson’s departure to Atlanta, a need for a runner who thrives between the tackles was created. Don’t get me wrong, Jackson could do much more and was one of the most consistent backs of the last decade, even on poor teams. Last season, seventh-rounder Daryl Richardson appeared to do his best work on outside stretches, showing good speed once getting to the edge and beating defenders to the second level. Isaiah Pead admitted that his rookie season was “miserable,” but the talent is there as a runner and receiver. Enter fifth-round pick Zac Stacy out of Vanderbilt, a player I listed in my top-151 prospects pre-draft (at No. 96). Josh Norris
Friday, May 17, 2013

As much as I value pre-draft evaluations, the prospect’s landing spot is a pivotal part of the process. Few talents can transcend any scheme and impact their team’s success. In fact, plenty of starters and contributors at the NFL level only fill certain roles and might not be considered a long term starter at that position. It is all about figuring out where a player wins and giving them a chance to succeed in that area. In this series I will take a look at prospects selected on the third day that could offer an immediate impact thanks to their strengths and situations. I will never call myself an expert on the coverages and schemes that are included, but I am working hard to learn, so feel free to (politely) point me in the right direction. With that said, I cannot recommend this defensive write up by Jene Bramel enough.

Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer has some new toys to play with this season in the form of Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Jared Cook and the (hopefully) improving Brian Quick. On top of that, the Rams attempted to upgrade the offensive line, an aspect of the team that has suffered due to injuries and a lack of talent. In total, I expect Schottenheimer to expand on his Air Coryell playbook and get creative.

These athletic targets will certainly help the passing game, but with Steven Jackson’s departure to Atlanta, a need for a runner who thrives between the tackles was created. Don’t get me wrong, Jackson could do much more and was one of the most consistent backs of the last decade, even on poor teams.

Last season, seventh-rounder Daryl Richardson appeared to do his best work on outside stretches, showing good speed once getting to the edge and beating defenders to the second level. Isaiah Pead admitted that his rookie season was “miserable,” but the talent is there as a runner and receiver. Enter fifth-round pick Zac Stacy out of Vanderbilt, a player I listed in my top-151 prospects pre-draft (at No. 96).

The Texans are often the team most associated with a zone blocking scheme, but the Rams feature this style much more than given credit for. In fairness, every team incorporates some zone tendencies, and I am not sure I would call it the backbone of the Rams’ running game, but it is certainly prevalent. Point blank, I love Zac Stacy’s fit in this system.

I won’t get too detailed with zone blocking (for that breakdown read this) but Stacy’s strengths match up quite well. The basic gist is this: rather than giving offensive linemen the responsibility of a certain defender, they are responsible to block a certain section of the defensive front. When defenses started lining linemen face up and slanting them hard in one direction, pre-snap blocking assignments became more difficult to reach and accomplish. To combat this, offensive lines started slanting, producing a good amount of double teams until that free lineman peeled off to attack the second level.

Bounce, Bang, Bend, Cut

Now to Stacy. The first trait I love about Stacy’s game is his decisiveness. This, along with vision and anticipation to set up second level blocks, is a vital skill to have behind a slanting offensive line. In a zone system, the terms bounce, bang, bend, and cut are used in occurrence with running lanes.

Bounce: If the defensive end takes a hard inside lane and exposes the edge, it could be wise for the ball carrier to take the play outside, although a runner who tends to consistently stretch runs east and west rather than getting upfield is extremely frustrating. Stacy understands his speed limitations on the edge, but I did see him take advantage of aggressive ends and bounce runs into open space with increased effectiveness. It wouldn’t be my first choice for him, but Stacy can take advantage of a defensive mistake.

Bang: This angle is usually the designed alley that, in a perfect world, would be open. On an outside zone against a four man front, this lane would show if the end is forced outside and the tackle is forced inside. The goal is then to free the guard or center to the second level to attack the linebacker. Stacy showed no problem attacking well blocked alleys, planting in one step with adequate explosion to get upfield immediately.

Bend: When the defensive tackle is able to scrap over top and cover the “bang” direction all is not lost. If the backside blockers can win their section and seal off defenders, the running back can show patience and bend his way inside, using his oppositions’ momentum against them. Patience and hesitation are two very different things, and the result and timing show it. Stacy’s acceleration isn’t great, but his strength and vision to see these second level lanes forming prove he can take advantage of the “bend.” He will almost certainly face a defender unaccounted for in this situation, but another trait of Stacy’s I love is his ability to work through first contact. That doesn’t mean he will make that defender miss in space, but he can certainly run through arm tackles thanks to his balance.

Cut: This takes the “bend” principle to the extreme. If the defensive front sniffs out the front side run and slants accordingly, a lane on the backside could appear. Once again, this is using the defense’s momentum against them. These large angles and cuts have to be made quickly, so it will be interesting to see if Stacy speed translates from the college level in these situations.

The Rams running game is more than these zone principles, but I wanted to highlight the sections that were out of the ordinary when evaluating runners and projecting them to the NFL.

I know I just listed a ton of positives and sound (overly?) optimistic about a fifth-round runner, but I am a fan of Stacy’s. He isn’t without his faults, however, namely in the form of long speed and dynamic traits. A team that has added speed and electric ability this offseason could be looking for something that matches that mindset in the backfield. Or, they could see a runner who displays great vision with blocks at the second level, strong cuts thanks to a well-built frame and low center, consistent tackle breaking ability when dealing with first contact, and a willingness to stick his nose in on pass protection. If so, Zac Stacy should be the answer. ]]> RAM TALK MauiRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/third-day-gems-rb-stacy-51720/ So...Question - http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/so-question-51717/ Fri, 17 May 2013 16:20:15 GMT To all those more knowledgeable than I, (which incudes just about everyone on the site, except Nick, AV and Hub - what do they know; they've only got like 50,000 posts between them), my question is this.
I see where Schotty may be going to more of a spread offense to take advantage of SBs talents (whatever that means; his talents are showing up regardless with his new support system).

What does the term "spread offense" actually mean? As opposed to what other kind of offense? 2 wideouts, a slot and a flanker vs. 2 tight end sets?
Why does it work in college, but (supposedly) not in the pros?
Is it a function of lining up under center as opposed to the shotgun?
Are the pro defenses simply that much smarter and faster than college.
Does it take more time to develop, time that pro QBs don't have vs college QBs?
Does Alabama use a "pro stlye vs Oregon's spread offense?

(Incidentally you three, feel free to give it a shot);) ]]> RAM TALK VegasRam http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/so-question-51717/ Tipsheet: Bradford Starts Over With Young Talent http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/tipsheet-bradford-starts-over-young-talent-51716/ Thu, 16 May 2013 21:12:51 GMT Tipsheet: Bradford starts over with young cast 10 hours ago • BY JEFF GORDON jeffgordon@post-dispatch.com When quarterback Sam Bradford gets back to work in the Organized Team Activities, exactly zero established NFL playmakers will join in the fun at Rams Park. That is two fewer proven weapons than Bradford had at his disposal last season. The Rams are hitting the restart button on offense. So, no, this cannot be considered a “make-or-break” year for him. Tipsheet: Bradford starts over with young cast

10 hours ago • BY JEFF GORDON jeffgordon@post-dispatch.com

When quarterback Sam Bradford gets back to work in the Organized Team Activities, exactly zero established NFL playmakers will join in the fun at Rams Park.

That is two fewer proven weapons than Bradford had at his disposal last season. The Rams are hitting the restart button on offense.

So, no, this cannot be considered a “make-or-break” year for him.

The upcoming season is very important for him. It could be the pivotal year in his career, defining his future in the league. This is his chance to emerge as a true leader of young men.

After a solid rookie season, Bradford suffered through a miserable second season before bouncing back in Year 3. Basically he is back to Square One.

He is a promising young quarterback surrounded by other promising young skill players.

The offense could take off this year ... IF Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey pan out big, IF Jared Cook breaks out, IF Chris Givens and Lance Kendricks build on solid 2012 seasons, IF Brian Quick figures it out, IF the young trio of running backs can replace the hugely productive Steven Jackson and IF Bradford progresses.

Expectations are high, but again, we’re talking potential. It’s not like Bradford looks around his offensive meeting room and sees Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Ray Rice or Vernon Davis. He doesn’t see a Jackson or a Danny Amendola, either.

The good news: the Rams appear to be tailoring the offense to Bradford’s strengths.

The bad news: Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer isn’t exactly Chip Kelly as a spread offense innovator. So it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.

The big knock on Bradford is that he hasn’t lived up to his gigantic contract and the hype that comes with being the first overall pick in the NFL Draft. Odds are he will never live up to that ridiculous deal, the last of its kind for young quarterbacks.

But that doesn’t mean the franchise should label him a bust, discard him after the season and start over with somebody’s back-up or another draft pick.

Another knock on Bradford is that he didn’t make players around him better. This baffles Tipsheet, since some players clearly grew while working with Sam.

Amendola arrived as an extra guy, pulled off the personnel pile to fill a roster spot. He left for a five-year, $31 million contract with the Patriots. Did playing with Bradford make him better? Of course it did.

Brandon Gibson arrived as an extra guy, acquired from the depths of the Eagles roster. He left for a three-year, $9.78 million contract in Miami. Did playing with Bradford make him better? Of course it did.

Kendricks made a quantum leap from his rookie season (28 catches, 352 yards, no touchdowns in 15 games) to last season (42 catches, 519 yards, four TDs in 16 games). That was the best season a Rams tight end had in, like, forever.

What the Rams need to see from Bradford (and the rest of their still-developing skill players) is serious growth, especially in critical game scenarios. Bradford made some progress there last season, but Jeff Fisher needs whole lot more of that moving forward.

ESPN.com’s Mike Sando had this sensible breakdown:

Bradford is set to collect $9 million in salary this season, $8 million of which is guaranteed. His deal counts about $12.6 million against the cap. The salary jumps to $14 million in 2014, with a $17.6 million scheduled cap hit. That's the type of money top quarterbacks earn. What, then, if Bradford is not one of them? What if he's merely decent or pretty good, but not someone worth nearly $18 million a year?

The Rams could release Bradford, but that wouldn't make much sense unless he played horrendously -- something he has never done to this point. Remember, too, that the team would need an obviously better option at the position. Good luck finding one of those.

More likely and a lot less dramatically, the Rams could buy another year for evaluation. They are building for the long term with their own draft choices and those acquired from the Washington Redskins last offseason. The Rams already have drafted eight players in the first and second rounds under the team-friendly rookie wage scale, tied with Cincinnati and New England for most in the NFL. That figure is scheduled to grow by three in 2014. Their window is still opening. Time is on their side. ]]> RAM TALK r8rh8rmike http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/tipsheet-bradford-starts-over-young-talent-51716/ <![CDATA[Tavon Austin Rookie Projections <long>]]> http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/tavon-austin-rookie-projections-long-51715/ Thu, 16 May 2013 16:23:57 GMT I have the 1st pick in a rookie draft for a Dynasty League. I, of course, am set to take TA.....and this sort of article is interesting in that respect. Perhaps others will find it helps their offseason jonesing also.

SI.com Ramblin' Fan
Tavon Austin Rookie Projections
May 14th, 2013 at 8:00 am by Troy Vandenbark

Tavon Austin is already up against some pretty lofty expectations since being drafted with the #8 overall selection in the 2013 draft. Being taken in the top ten of the NFL Draft will always come with high expectations, the fact that the Rams traded up from the 16th to the 8th spot in order to select Austin doesn’t help either. Then there is the fact that Austin was the first “skill position” player taken in the 2013 draft and all of a sudden the spotlight burns pretty brightly on the young kid out of West Virginia University. Austin is being touted as the odds on favorite to win the Rookie of the Year for the 2013 season as well. If you are a Rams fan than surely by now you have read dozens of articles about the impact Austin could have on the Rams offense. You have probably watched every highlight reel you could find on YouTube and are keeping your fingers crossed that Austin can translate what he did at WVU to the NFL. So what is a reasonable expectation for the dynamic receiver/runner/returner in his rookie season?

The guys over at numberFire decided to throw some numbers together to help quantify reasonable expectations for Austin in his rookie season. The article can be viewed here, and is actually quite interesting so I recommend giving it a look. They essentially used some complex analytics to try to compare Austin’s NFL Combine numbers (DeSean Jackson and Calvin Johnson are the top two matches) to other recent WRs to find the closest match. They then took into consideration the teams and the players expected role within that team and narrowed down the previous list a little more. Eventually they had compiled a list of 6 players from which to base their projections from.

When all was said and done their complex analysis projects Tavon Austin to be among the top 20-25 wide receivers of 2013. His combined statline is projected to be 59 receptions for 961 total yards and 8 total TDs. I am sure that a majority of Rams fans would be quite pleased with this level of production out of Austin but as I look at the numbers I just have one question, do these numbers take into account Austin’s potential role in the running and return game? Based off of the very limited knowledge of the process used to project these numbers I would guess not, so what I want to know is do the guys over at numberFire have a three-part projection in mind? These sorts of projections are mostly a way to fill time between now and the regular season, but I for one would be interested in seeing what the other two parts of the projection could possibly look like.

Thanks for reading and as always, Go Rams!!!

The above article links to this article.

numberFire
Tavon Austin Will Be A Top 20 WR In 2013
by Nik Bønaddio on May 10th, 2013

Let's get my personal biases out of the way in the very first sentence: I was raised in Pittsburgh, and my Dad went to Pitt. I was taught at a very young age that my teams - so far as college football goes - are Pitt, and the opponents of Notre Dame, Penn State, and West Virginia. Now, I'm not going to go say I hate those schools - although frankly, there are truly detestable things about all of them - but I'm not going to pretend that I wasn't trolling the hell out of any WVU board I could find after the 13-9 game, either.

So with my personal biases lingering in the back of my mind, I sat down to look at Tavon Austin, the No. 8 overall pick and the most touted rookie for fantasy purposes out of this year's class. Several reputable sites have come out with their initial feelings and opinions on Austin, but qualitative just isn't the way we do things around here; opinions are meaningless without numbers.Enter READ: the Rookie Estimation Algorithm Derivative.

About READ

READ starts with a a similarity scoring algorithm based off of the combine and pro day results, chosen simply because it ignores the variance inherent in different offensive schemes and the subsequent performance statistics. Because not everyone runs the same drills at the combine/pro day, we're choosing to compare them on the ones more commonly run and the ones most predictable of positional value. In this case, we're using 40-yard dash, vertical leap, broad jump, and the shuttle drill.

From there, we bake in the team analytics for their future NFL team from the season prior. You'll note that we use analytics and not statistics; this is because statistics like yards against, points against, etc. can be extremely misleading as they do not take into consideration the strength of opponent, situation of the game, and so forth.

Finally, we bake in a simple sanity check. This check looks at the projected position on the depth chart (in this case, starting WR) and weighs in the average performance from that role on teams similar to their future NFL team. After all of this, we have an estimation of performance which is much more than just someone's anecdotal opinion, but rather a projection that is rooted in mathematical modeling. Whew.

Comparables

Let's get the fantastic news out of the way right up front. Based off of the combine statistics, Tavon Austin's top two comparables are DeSean Jackson and Calvin Johnson. Not bad, huh?

After that, it gets a little..how shall we say, CFL-ish. Of course, it's worth noting that this is based off of combine statistics, so two issues bubble up: one, not everyone completed the same drills at the combine and two, not everyone was drafted and as such, we'll have to be mindful of expectations in relation to where they were drafted. As we go deeper into the comparables, we find a few more interesting players: Lee Evans, Kevin Ogletree, T.Y. Hilton, just to name a few.
Comparable Similarity Drafted
DeSean Jackson 99.31% 2nd round, 2008
Calvin Johnson 98.42% 1st round, 2007
Louis Murphy 96.83% 4th round, 2009
Cliff Russell 96.82% 3rd round, 2002
Reggie Germany 96.04% 7th round, 2001
Demetrius Byrd 95.55% 7th round, 2009
Roscoe Parrish 95.24% 2nd round, 2005
T.Y. Hilton 95.22% 3rd round, 2012
Corey Fuller 95.09% 6th round, 2013
T.J. Graham 94.13% 3rd round, 2012
Sinorice Moss 93.66% 2nd round, 2006
Lee Evans 93.29% 1st round, 2004
David Clowney 92.83% 5th round, 2007
Andre Caldwell 92.79% 3rd round, 2008
Percy Harvin 92.07% 1st round, 2009
Terrence Murphy 92.05% 2nd round, 2005

Team Analytics

I don't think I'm shocking anyone when I say that last year, the Rams weren't all that good. To get an idea of how Tavon Austin might fit into the Rams offense, we'll take a look at the Rams as a team - specifically their passing analytics - as well as the career progression of Sam Bradford. Next, we'll look at the emergence of Daryl Richardson as a replacement for Steven Jackson. In the end, we'll have a sense of what the Rams might look like analytically in 2013 and then bake that into our set of comparables above.

First, the team.
Team Analytic Value Rank
Overall Offense 21.73 #20
Net Adjusted Passing +73.85 #15
Net Adjusted Rushing -32.09 #16

The Rams were probably a little better last year than you thought they were, although finishing No. 20 in overall offensive efficiency - to say nothing of the defense - isn't exactly a world-beater either.

In keeping with the theme of mediocrity, Sam Bradford finished No. 19 in passing efficiency, just ahead of Carson Palmer for those of you scoring at home. This is fairly in-line with his historical curve, as he vacillates between the No. 15 and No. 20 positions regularly, staying just above replacement-level. This means that we can't reasonably expect Sam to suddenly become Aaron Rodgers, so for the sake of progression, we'll keep him static.

What is difficult to quantify at this juncture is the impact that the loss of Steven Jackson and Danny Amendola will have on the team. Even if we take a leap of faith and presume that Daryl Richardson can provide similar value to Steven Jackson - Daryl's VORP suggests a similar efficiency - the loss of Amendola will hurt what was already a fairly pedestrian passing offense, run by a relatively stagnant Sam Bradford in terms of growth. Thus, for the sake of estimating the team situation that Austin will be placed into, we'll project the Rams to be similar, if not a little worse.

The Sanity Check

What we'll need to do from here is look at the comparables and look at the teams that drafted those players, checking to see how similar their team analytics are to those of the 2012 Rams. For the sake of brevity, we'll pare down the list at this junction to players drafted in rounds 1-3, as Tavon is a likely starter out of the gate and players like seventh-round pick Aaron Lockett simply aren't logical comparables for that position on the depth chart.
Comparable Similarity Drafting Team
DeSean Jackson 81.67% 2007 Eagles
Calvin Johnson 78.64% 2005 Lions
Roscoe Parrish 91.08% 2004 Bills
T.Y. Hilton 80.03% 2011 Colts
T.J. Graham 90.27% 2011 Bengals
Sinorice Moss 85.26% 2005 Giants
Lee Evans 83.09% 2003 Bills
Andre Caldwell 79.62% 2007 Bengals
Percy Harvin 83.44% 2008 Vikings
Terrence Murphy 72.59% 2004 Packers

Just because this one is a little bit more confusing, I'll explain it again: what I wanted to do is take the list of players who were comparable to Tavon Austin at the combine, and then look at the teams they were drafted onto and see how comparable those teams were to the Rams. This achieves what I consider two-sided similarity; a great player on a bad team will not be as good as a good player on a great team, and so on. Comparing both the player and the team situation will only serve to enrich the accuracy of our final projection for Tavon.

Looking at the similarities, a few outliers stand out: the 2004 Bills, the 2011 Bengals, and the 2005 Giants. Combining this table with the comparable table above shows that Roscoe Parrish is likely the strongest predictor on numbers alone, followed by T.J. Graham, Sinorice Moss, Lee Evans, DeSean Jackson, Percy Harvin, and T.Y. Hilton.

With that said, we also need to take into account the role in which Tavon will play in the Rams offense. You'd be hard pressed to argue that Roscoe Parrish was an integral part of the Bills offensive gameplan; certainly not to the level that Austin projects to be. With this in mind, we'll somewhat artificially nudge Lee Evans, DeSean Jackson, and Percy Harvin up in our array of predictors to give them a little more influence on the outcome. This is where the sanity part of the sanity check comes in.

The Projection

As the last step, we take all of the similarity scores that we've calculated - and the adjustments for depth chart and team role - and perform a simple calculation where the strongest predictors are given more weight on the final projection.
Player Predictor Season
Lee Evans 94.22% 48 recs, 843 yards, 9 TDs
DeSean Jackson 93.29% 62 recs, 1008 total yards, 3 TDs
Percy Harvin 90.66% 60 recs, 925 total yards, 6 TDs
Roscoe Parrish 87.81% 15 recs, 148 yards, 1 TD
T.Y. Hilton 86.63% 50 recs, 890 yards, 7 TDs
T.J. Graham 85.50% 31 recs, 322 yards, 1 TD

Looking at these numbers and weighing them using the similarity scores composed during each step of the process, the final numbers come in at a combined statline of 59 receptions, 961 total yards, 8 total TDs. This puts him at 144 FP on standard scoring settings, good for a positional rank of No. 20 to No. 25 and an extremely solid WR3 with loads of upside.
]]> RAM TALK Richbert88 http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/tavon-austin-rookie-projections-long-51715/ James Laurinaitis on Alec Ogletree, Cook and Austin http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/james-laurinaitis-alec-ogletree-cook-austin-51714/ Thu, 16 May 2013 16:18:32 GMT What he has seen and heard from Sam about working out with Cook. "Cook's a freak"

James Laurinaitis on Alec Ogletree's propensity for "flash plays" 5-15-13 - 101Sports.com ]]> RAM TALK Rambos http://www.clanram.com/forums/f11/james-laurinaitis-alec-ogletree-cook-austin-51714/