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    #3 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    OVERVIEW

    A mainstay on the Rockets' offensive line, John Greco filled a huge void at left offensive tackle when he replaced Nick Kaczur (New England) as a sophomore.

    The coaches felt that Greco was more than capable of handling that tough assignment after seeing him excel at right tackle during his first year with the team. He was so impressive in 2004 that he became the first offensive lineman to win the Norman Cohen Award, given to the team's top freshman.

    At Boardman High School, Greco was named first-team All-Conference and second-team All-Region as a senior, adding second-team All-Conference honors as a junior. He helped the team share the conference championship in his junior year and the squad finished second in the conference in Greco's freshman season. He also lettered one season in basketball, the same team that produced former Toledo All-Mid American Conference center, Chris Tuminello.

    Greco enrolled at Toledo in 2003, performing on the scout team as an offensive tackle. That preparation period helped him take over right tackle duties in 2004. He generated 59 knockdowns with seven touchdown-resulting blocks, helping the offense rank 11th in the nation with an average of 459.2 yards per game.

    As a sophomore, Greco took over left tackle duties. The explosive Toledo offense ranked 10th nationally in scoring (35.8 points per game) and with their new left tackle leading the way, the rushing attack ranked 13th in the country, averaging 216.8 yards per game, a vast improvement over the previous season, when the Rockets averaged 160.8 yards per game on the ground. Greco finished that season with 86 knockdowns and 10 touchdown-resulting blocks, earning All-Mid American first-team accolades.

    Greco picked up All-MAC first-team honors in 2006. The team co-captain registered 90 knockdowns and came up with ten touchdown-resulting blocks. He allowed three sacks on 386 pass plays and guided an offense that averaged 326.9 yards per game.

    Greco was a third-team All-American and first-team All-MAC choice during his final season. He led a front wall that allowed only 16 quarterback sacks, as the offense generated 5,373 yards (447.8 yards per game), leading the MAC in total offense, rushing and scoring. He delivered 99 knockdowns, coming up with 14 touchdown-resulting blocks.

    Career Notes

    The three-time All-MAC selection has delivered 275 knockdowns and 34 touchdown-resulting blocks during his three seasons at the demanding left tackle position...Started 49 consecutive games, including 36 at left tackle.

    High School

    Attended Boardman (Youngstown, Oh.) High School, playing football for head coach Gary Smith...First-team All-Conference and second-team All-Region choice as a senior, adding second-team All-Conference honors as a junior...Helped the team share the conference championship in his junior year and the squad finished second in the conference as a freshman...Lettered one season in basketball.


    ANALYSIS

    Positives: Has a thick frame with good bone structure and room to carry at least another 10 pounds of bulk...Quiet leader on the field, but will not hesitate to take a teammate to task for a poor performance...Uses his size and lower-body strength to get movement off the snap, especially when working in-line...Demonstrates good knee-bend and recovery quickness to protect the pocket and adequate change-of-direction agility...Hard worker in the weight room, taking well to hard coaching...Intelligent athlete who is quick to locate stunts and shows good patience on twists...Easily takes plays from the chalkboard to the field...More tenacious drive blocker than Nick Kaczur with great lower-body strength to get leverage and widen the rush lanes...Plays with true aggression, going full blast until the whistle...Has the knee-bend to stay low in his pads off the snap...Lacks explosion, but has a decent initial step, but relies more on patience in pass protection...Has the upper-body strength and body lean to engulf smaller defenders...Must do a better job with hand placement, but has a punishing hand punch that will generally knock the defender off-balance...His explosive jolt is one of his best assets...Plants his foot in the ground and moves his feet well to get a strong push off the snap, showing a good concept for taking proper angles for the running game...Has the strength to finish. will fall off some blocks when he gets his hands outside the frame...When he gets his hands on the defender early in the play, he will win most one-on-one battles...Won't fire out of his stance and get to the second level quickly, but is patient waiting for linebackers to target. Takes good angles, but his long foot speed is not evident, but he does strike with force when landing...In straight-up blocking, he is a good mauler...Has adequate anchor and slide in pass protection, showing the vision to read and react to twists and games. Will be better when he improves his hand placement...Good working down the line of scrimmage, but needs to be lighter on his feet sliding back in pass protection.

    Negatives: Lacks the athleticism and long arms (29 5/8-inch length) to be effective reaching and mirroring edge rushers on the left side. Might be a better fit back at right tackle or inside at guard, where his limited reach would not be as exposed as it would be at left tackle...Does not have great muscle tone in his arms or legs but is more thick than he is sloppy...Shows good natural power (420-pound bench press)...Best on the short pull, as he looks a bit sluggish trying to go long distances...Has just adequate quickness off the snap, relying more on his patience to let the defender make the first move before countering...Must do a better job of maintaining hand placement. Will come off some blocks early and, when he gets his hands on the outside, he will lunge when punching...Does not have the timed speed to get on defenders with quickness when trap blocking. Can open his hips and move down the line, but is just not quick enough to reach the target...Must do a better job coming back to the inside in his pass set, as he does not slide back fluid enough or keep his hands inside his frame to counter throughout the play.

    Compares To: NICK KACZUR-New England...Greco was a capable replacement for Kaczur at left tackle back in 2005, but like Kaczur, he is not left tackle material at the next level. A possible return to the right tackle spot or inside to guard will be a better fit for a player with his drive-blocking ability and strong hand punch. He struggles with his slide back in pass protection and perhaps due to his shorter-than-ideal arms, he will get his hands outside his frame and overextend. He is good on the short pull, but lacks the quickness to adjust to moving targets. He has a strong anchor taking on defenders over his head, but despite his weight-room strength, the only pop he generates on contact is when he uses his hands properly.

    Injury Report

    No injuries reported.


    QUESTION & ANSWER

    Growing up, who was your favorite NFL player and why?
    John Ogden; Orlando Pace. They are so dominant.

    In college, what player hit you the hardest? Who was the recipient of your best hit?
    Daryl Reid of Minnesota. A corner from Ball State.

    What TV-show marathon will keep you on the couch all day?
    Curb Your Enthusiasm.

    What are the five most-played songs in your iPod? What's the one song you hope nobody ever finds out is in your iPod?
    Kanye West -- Flashing lights; Metallica -- sad but true; Led Zeppelin -- Whole lotta love; Notorius B.I.G. -- Sky is the limit; Charlie Wilson -- My name is Charlie

    What celebrity would play you in the movie version of your life and why?
    Any really good looking actor that would best compare to my real life.

    What is one thing your teammates don't know about you?
    I'm a good cook and golfer.

    What reality TV show would you like to be on and why?
    The next Iron Chef. I love the kitchen.

    What's your proudest moment in football? Proudest moment off the field?
    Winning two championship rings. Graduating from Toledo.

    When you play Madden, what team do you use? Do you put yourself on the team?
    The Eagles. No.

    Who has been the biggest influence on your football career and how?
    Dad, coaches. Always pushing me and helping me develop.
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    Greco - Video of 3rd rounder

    Here's a taste of John Greco of Toledo. A perfect run blocking lineman. Should help out Steven Jackson a ton.

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    Thats good. Add some beef to the line with a very talented player. Do you think he might start opposite to Jacob Bell?

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    I like it, this is a good pick for the Rams!

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    He has potential at tackle and guard, and adding another guy to the interior line probably allows the Rams to feel more comfortable about moving Setterstrom or Incognito inside to center.
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    Yeah another need filled.

    Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 08/12/07: #6 OT, #56/750 Overall, Projected: 2
    2007: Served as team captain for the second-straight year, helping the team lead the conference in rushing (208.5 ypg) and total offense (447.8 ypg)… Registered 99 knockdowns with fourteen touchdown-resulting blocks, receiving an 83.25% grade for blocking consistency…Allowed three quarterback pressures and three sacks on 411 pass plays. First-team All-MAC for the second consecutive season in '06…Started all 12 games at left tackle…Named to 2006 Lombardi Award “watch list” for nation’s best down lineman/linebacker. Named first-team All-MAC in '05. Starting left tackle on an offensive line that powered the No.13 rushing offense (216.8 yards/game) and No.10 scoring offense (35.8) in the country. Started all 13 games at right tackle as a freshman in '04. Redshirt in '03.

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    I like the Greco pick. As I understand it, he was very good offensive tackle in college who just happens to have short arms. It also sounds like he's another high character guy.

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo



    I am a bit dissappointed with the timing here. I think there were better players on the board. This guy sounds like a bit of a project converting him from a college OT to a NFL OG.

    The Rams signed an excellent OG this off season.

    I know they had all the issues last season with injuries along the OL - yet I also recall most fans and experts calling that many injuries unprecedented.

    So, if it were to occur again (all the OL injuries) I don't see that having this rookie on the bench will be the saving grace.

    Definately dissappointed here.



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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    Scouts, Inc from ESPN Insider

    65. St. Louis Rams
    The pick: John Greco, OT, Toledo

    What he brings: Greco lined up at left tackle for Toledo, but chances are he's going to have to play right tackle in the NFL. Although he has good initial quickness, he lacks ideal agility and has some problems redirecting in pass protection. Also, he's going to have to learn to play with better leverage if he's going to develop into a dominate drive-blocker.

    How he fits: This pick makes sense because the Rams had to address the line on Day 2. Greco can hopefully be the heir apparent at right tackle once Orlando Pace retires and Alex Barron moves to left tackle. The Rams were hit hard with injuries on the offensive line last season and depth at the tackle position is key for this team. The Rams have enough players on offense, but the offensive line struggled last year.
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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    I like this pick. It gives us some great depth when inevitably someone goes down.

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    I like this pick-somebody we can groom as a right tackle and also play guard in a pinch. we need depth on the o-line and we have it.

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    Rams add tackle, still drafting for need
    By Jeff Gordon
    04/27/2008 9:42 am

    Picking second overall on Sunday, the Rams had an opportunity to move down in the third round and add an extra pick. But the football staff was committed to adding an offensive tackle to open the day.

    And they got the man they wanted, Toledo’s John Greco. “It was a slam dunk that we would take Greco,” personnel czar Billy Devaney said. Had Greco gone with the first overall pick in the third round, the Rams’ Plan B was to take the next tackle on his board.

    Coach Scott Linehan expects Greco to push right tackle Alex Barron from the start of training camp.

    “He’s going to compete right away,” Linehan said. “He definitely has the make-up to do it sooner than later.


    “It’s important to him. He loves football. He adds a lot of what we’re looking for.”

    Read: Greco could become a harder working, more focused alternative to Barron. Although he lacks the physical attributes to star at left tackle in the NFL, he played that side for three years at Toledo.

    The Rams believe he has the acumen, instincts and versatility to play all give line spots. “When injuries hit,” Devaney said, “those type of guys are valuable.”

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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    What he brings: Greco lined up at left tackle for Toledo, but chances are he's going to have to play right tackle in the NFL. Although he has good initial quickness, he lacks ideal agility and has some problems redirecting in pass protection. Also, he's going to have to learn to play with better leverage if he's going to develop into a dominate drive-blocker.
    Yeah a project. Which is it OG or OT? Short arms - weak with speed rushers - probably a better prospect at OG than RT. Either way he is a project.

    How he fits: This pick makes sense because the Rams had to address the line on Day 2. Greco can hopefully be the heir apparent at right tackle once Orlando Pace retires and Alex Barron moves to left tackle. The Rams were hit hard with injuries on the offensive line last season and depth at the tackle position is key for this team. The Rams have enough players on offense, but the offensive line struggled last year.
    There is a lot of Day 2 left at this point. I'm not sure how it makes sense to draft a HOPEFUL heir apparent at this point, when there are better players on the board.



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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferter View Post
    There is a lot of Day 2 left at this point. I'm not sure how it makes sense to draft a HOPEFUL heir apparent at this point, when there are better players on the board.
    Who are those better players? Maybe at other positions, but not really at OL. Greco was one of the best OL available when we picked, IMO. Collins is the only guy I think you could make a strong case for taking before him, and he's still waiting to be picked so something's up there. You could argue we should have gone another position here, but we need OL and the talent there isn't going to get better the further you go in the draft.
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    Re: 2008 NFL DRAFT RAMS PICK (Round 3, 65th overall): John Greco, OL, Toledo

    yet I also recall most fans and experts calling that many injuries unprecedented.
    Cog has missed a lot of time he gets hurt every year or so it seems.

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