Albeit, our lack of discipline is still costing us games...

Let me give you 4 lack of discipline plays, that not included we would have won. I'm sure you all know where I'm going with this.

Bradfords pick 6 and fumble..utter lack of discipline. Not sure why he made that throw. My friends have always made fun of me that I couldn't play QB at all growing up. However, even I wouldnt have made that throw. That fumble, nothing more than you have to secure the snap period. 10 points.

Defense the 2 carries 140 yards. Players had hands on him, you gotta make a tackle. Gotta establish a better L.O.S. post snap and be disciplined on the play. Don't have to mention how undisplined craig dahl is. Relying on Craig Dahl being the last line of defense is like...well relying on craig dahl being the last line of D. I will agree that both of those plays had a hold, especially the blatant one on the td on Brockers. Which is just ridiculous btw, I hope fisher complains. However, we have gotten used to the refs screwing us, so lets just stop going back to that. 10 points.

2 undisciplined plays on offense and 2 undisciplined plays on defense. The difference between the opposing team leaving with 16 points and 36 points...or even anything in between.

Btw another nomination, during that pick 6, is it just me or was there no effort on anyone of our offensive players to tackle him? It was almost like the Rams just walked to the sidelines and let the guy who picked it off run.

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Btw another nomination, during that pick 6, is it just me or was there no effort on anyone of our offensive players to tackle him? It was almost like the Rams just walked to the sidelines and let the guy who picked it off run.

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Givens gave it his best, but he was about 100 pounds short. :(


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young teams make mistakes. We are the youngest team in the league.

I don't mind the physical mistakes. Heck, guys are human and if you've ever played football you KNOW that as humans, you will occasionally drop the ball, miss a pass, miss a tackle, etc....

What I don't like are the stupid mental mistakes. Not knowing the snap count (Wells) blocking in the back on a return when the guy you're blocking isn't anywhere near the play.... Those things drive me nuts.

...and as for Bradford throwing the pick? Well, if you HAD played QB at any level, you'd know that it is not uncommon to not see a defender on a play. I'm sure Sam didn't see him either. It happens. It's real easy to play armchair QB when you get the nice elevated view and slo-mo, and instant replay on the TV screen. But on the field, these QB's are trying to throw the ball around and over huge men. As they say; "it ain't that easy."

As mcpeepants said; this is a young team and they will make mistakes. But I expect Fisher and the staff to get a handle on the mental mistakes moving towards next season. Dumb mistakes have cost the Rams dearly this season. Mental mistakes are a discipline issue, not the physical ones necessarily.

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What I don't like are the stupid mental mistakes. Not knowing the snap count (Wells) blocking in the back on a return when the guy you're blocking isn't anywhere near the play.... Those things drive me nuts.

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While that block in the back was "technically correct", two different players blocked two other players into each other, which caused Harkey to hit a defender in the back. I have serious doubts that any other team would have been flagged for that, as the "guilty" player and the "victim" player weren't even playing against each other. Just one of those things that always seem to bite the RAMS.


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While that block in the back was "technically correct", two different players blocked two other players into each other, which caused Harkey to hit a defender in the back. I have serious doubts that any other team would have been flagged for that, as the "guilty" player and the "victim" player weren't even playing against each other. Just one of those things that always seem to bite the RAMS.


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I don't know what play you're referring to, but the play I saw was clearly a tupid mistake on the part of the Rams player placing his head into the back of a defender. He clearly acted on his own, not pushed, tripped. He stuck his helmet into the guys back and pushed.... Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Gap, you keep using the conspiracy theory on everything. The refs, the league are not out to get the Rams. I saw missed calls on BOTH sides of the ball all day, as we see most every game. Bad/missed calls had nothing to do with the loss yesterday. I'd rather they miss. or don't call everything they see because the game would drag out forever and it would look like freakin' flag day on the field. I saw mulitple holding calls that were not called on Saffold yesterday while he was being abused. The Vikings should be complaning about that as well.

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I don't know what play you're referring to, but the play I saw was clearly a tupid mistake on the part of the Rams player placing his head into the back of a defender. He clearly acted on his own, not pushed, tripped. He stuck his helmet into the guys back and pushed.... Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Gap, you keep using the conspiracy theory on everything. The refs, the league are not out to get the Rams. I saw missed calls on BOTH sides of the ball all day, as we see most every game. Bad/missed calls had nothing to do with the loss yesterday. I'd rather they miss. or don't call everything they see because the game would drag out forever and it would look like freakin' flag day on the field. I saw mulitple holding calls that were not called on Saffold yesterday while he was being abused. The Vikings should be complaning about that as well.

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First off, I did not blame the officiating for the loss. Only for the 134 yards that shouldn't count.

Second, when I see ticky tack penalties negate TDs or big plays for the opponent on a regular basis, and when the officials stop finding new ways to stop the RAMS momentum, and when BLATANT offensive hold no longer leads to TDs for the opponent, and when the officials call the opponent for the same penalties that they are calling against the RAMS, I will lay off the refs. Until then the "conspiracy" exists beyond question. You don't know the whole history of the fight between the NFL and St. Louis, going back to 1988, so you have no right to tell me what is or isn't happening.


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First off, I did not blame the officiating for the loss. Only for the 134 yards that shouldn't count.

Second, when I see ticky tack penalties negate TDs or big plays for the opponent on a regular basis, and when the officials stop finding new ways to stop the RAMS momentum, and when BLATANT offensive hold no longer leads to TDs for the opponent, and when the officials call the opponent for the same penalties that they are calling against the RAMS, I will lay off the refs. Until then the "conspiracy" exists beyond question. You don't know the whole history of the fight between the NFL and St. Louis, going back to 1988, so you have no right to tell me what is or isn't happening.


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You don't blame the loss, but you think a large portion of their offense was gained only because the refs ignored penalties? Really? ...wow. So how do you explain all the non-calls against the Rams Oline for holding? Don't tell me you didn't see any holding there?

But you really think the league (not sure WHO in the league is leading this charge) has flowed orders all the way down to the refs to "stick it to the St. Louis Rams" whenever they have a chance? OMG.

You sound like a Raiders fan...

And yes, that is what separates the teams with the winning records from the ones with the losing records.