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    Is bad better than mediocre?

    Is bad better than mediocre?

    Maybe, for this team, right now, it is.

    A mediocre team might squeak in the playoffs, bringing false hope. A bad team will not.

    A mediocre team will retain players who should be replaced. A bad team will not.

    A mediocre team will keep coaches who might not be the answer. A bad team will not.

    In a strange way, the way this league works, a bad team may be closer to becoming a good team than a mediocre team is.

    I hate to see the Rams this way. But, at least, I have the hope that the organization will finally realize that the GSOT days are truly over, and a new contender must be built.

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    Re: Is bad better than mediocre?

    AR - you've shown admirable restraint in not strting a thread entitled "How do you like Vitt now?"

    That said, I like Martz too, but in all honesty, will not be sad if he moves on, which looks likely.

    I really feel that five years of not paying attention, (to the point of flat out ignoring), turnovers and penalties and ST's has been the main reason for our demise.

    And, while I don't totally buy reports of Martz's insecurity, with his choice of Marmie, (a friend), he signed his own death warrant. Marmie is the most worthless DC in the history of the NFL. Period. And he'd already proved it at Arizona.

    Look what Coughlin did in NY, (Eli Manning notwithstanding). Discipline, discipline, and more discipline. it's working.

    I don't buy the "we don't have the defensive talent" crap either. We've had some injuries, and our secondary's young, but they're just not coached well. DTs, (except Pickett), really are worthless.

    I don't write here often, but this was overdue. I just feel like Martz was literally living in a (past glory) dream world, believing he could overcome everything with his offensive genius.

    Anyway, enough venting, (and congratulations Lovie!)
    "the Heart Lies and the Head Plays Tricks with us, but the Eyes See True".

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    Re: Is bad better than mediocre?

    Oh how much these words befit our current state of affairs.

    I believe the Rams are very mediocre. And based on Jeff Fisher's recent comments to the media, I believe the Rams are going to be mediocre for a while.


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    Re: Is bad better than mediocre?

    In 2005, when this thread was first posted the thought was the Rams were bad. Well, they got a lot worse after that. Fisher has brought some talent and respect to the organization. The records and play have generally improved under his leadership. So have we ascended to mediocre at this point? Is the point of bringing this thread up again to suggest we will keep being mediocre because we think we are on the verge of being good, so why make critical changes when we are so close?

    We all saw the meteoric rise of the Rams under Vermeil. We also saw the cataclysmic crash a few years later. I would prefer a slower and steady ascension where excellence is maintained for years and years. All this is said as a prelude that I support keeping Fisher for the length of his contract and let him fix the problems if possible. We all know the shortcomings of this team, talent wise (lacking a competent QB at the helm). Fisher is more a victim of circumstances with respect to this. I am more concerned with the lack of game discipline and maturity. That is a bigger negative about Fisher than keeping the OC or not. To criticize the OC for his game play calling when downs and distances are whipsawing wildly from play to play due to undisciplined players seems misplaced. All this is to say that I don't see Fisher's comments as a resignation for mediocrity. He needs to clean up the sloppiness and inconsistent performance on the field first and foremost. If he can, I think the Rams can have a great ride to the top and stay there for years to come.

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    Re: Is bad better than mediocre?

    Interesting how a thread so long ago is so relevant to our situation today. I've been thinking about this recently and honestly I don't know. It may actually depend on the team as well as a hint of luck. The Cowboys for example have been mediocre for the past four years prior to this season and jumped to 12-4. In the case with the Rams, we have cycled from mediocrity to bad and back to mediocrity. Through our bad years we have been able to build a defense but not a complete team that can accumulate wins.

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