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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    Don't throw Pickett in there with Lewis and Kennedy unless you want the wrath of me and GC at you. Pickett played very well for the Rams but he always seemed to be lumped in with Lewis and Archuleta.

    Out of the three defensive tackles we've taken in the first round lately, Pickett certainly played the best, but whether or not he played well enough to warrant a 1st round pick is still debatable. I still think he was let go to Green Bay because lovie smith didn't want to admit that he made a mistake with Jimmy Kennedy and thought if he gave him starter time, he would get better. God, I hate that lovie smith.


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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    I really don't know what is more of a gamble....taking a "tweener" like CArriker or taking someone like Dorsey who has a "minor" history of an injury.
    It's not a "history" though if the injury hasn't properly healed and could need future medical attention, which is the opinion of multiple team doctors according to the PFW report. I wouldn't call that minor, either.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    I agree. Taking a chance on a player coming off an injury that has healed is one thing, but taking a guy who has an issue that has been identified by multiple professionals as seriously problematic sounds like a pretty big risk to me, especially at #2.
    Moreso than taking a guy with possible work ethic problems? *cough*Gholston*cough*

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    It's not a "history" though if the injury hasn't properly healed and could need future medical attention, which is the opinion of multiple team doctors according to the PFW report. I wouldn't call that minor, either.

    And multiple doctors have also cleared him. I like Howard but this is just his opinion.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    And multiple doctors have also cleared him. I like Howard but this is just his opinion.
    I linked to a Pro Football Weekly article that cites three different NFL team doctors that feel Dorsey may need to have the leg medically fixed since it isn't healing right. This is about more than the opinion of Howard Balzer.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    And multiple doctors have also cleared him. I like Howard but this is just his opinion.
    Have any doctors not connected to Dorsey cleared him? LSU doctors have given him a clean bill of health but I have not heard of any NFL team doctors clearing him, maybe I've missed something.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    I don't know anymore guys and it's a moot point anyway. It's going to be Chris Long. I just hope NO ONE in the NFC West picks up Dorsey.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    still you take dorsey over jake long or VG any day of the week hands down.... he has the most talent in this draft outside of Mcfadden which we dont need and Chris Long which the dolphins are taking 1 overall
    Dorsey hands down over Jake? Where does need come into this?

    Chris Long which the dolphins are taking 1 overall
    Dolphins opened comtract talks with Jake Long today, are you sure this is a fact or just a prediction?

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by PeoriaRam View Post
    Moreso than taking a guy with possible work ethic problems? *cough*Gholston*cough*
    Unless Gholston is on roids a guy with arms and body in general has to be in the weight room alot unlike a certain Ram *Alex Barron*cough*. Off the field he doesn't take plays off, but on the field he takes off a few not an alarming amount. Still think the Rams should go Long

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

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    I still think he was let go to Green Bay because lovie smith didn't want to admit that he made a mistake with Jimmy Kennedy and thought if he gave him starter time, he would get better. God, I hate that lovie smith.
    Huh? Mr. Pickett played for the Rams at least one year AFTER The Lovester left for Chicago. Same thing with Jimmy "Dead" Kennedy. Therefore the Rams have no one to blame but themselves for more inept free agency actions.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMarkable View Post
    Huh? Mr. Pickett played for the Rams at least one year AFTER The Lovester left for Chicago. Same thing with Jimmy "Dead" Kennedy. Therefore the Rams have no one to blame but themselves for more inept free agency actions.

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    This is true and factual.


    As for Dorsey, I believe he will be just fine and dandy in the NFL for years to come as a force at DT. And if we're going for Long / Gholston / Long, so be it. TX mentioned it elsewhere, something to the effect of ... the Rams will be okay as long as Dorsey is not in our division.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    I linked to a Pro Football Weekly article that cites three different NFL team doctors that feel Dorsey may need to have the leg medically fixed since it isn't healing right. This is about more than the opinion of Howard Balzer.
    Not entirely. Even if he is basing his comments on information from doctors (I don't know what he was basing them on), if he's using terms like "walking time bomb" (which, I think we can presume, didn't come from a medical report), he's putting a spin on it.

    I agree that the Rams should not invest the second pick on a player with any significant medical issues, but I'm really tired of reporters acting like they know more than they actually know.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Not entirely. Even if he is basing his comments on information from doctors (I don't know what he was basing them on), if he's using terms like "walking time bomb" (which, I think we can presume, didn't come from a medical report), he's putting a spin on it.

    I agree that the Rams should not invest the second pick on a player with any significant medical issues, but I'm really tired of reporters acting like they know more than they actually know.
    I imagine the "walking time bomb" comment was his opinion, which I also imagine he's regularly asked to provide as a local and national radio host. But the fact remains that the information about Dorsey's injury did come from a team doctor, and Pro Football Weekly has secured similar concerns from other doctors as well. So it's not as if all the Dorsey injury talk is simply based on one reporter's opinion, which was the point I was getting at.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Ok, so now that we have the point ironed out......the Rams aren't taking him. It looks like it's Chris Long and for the money that's the safe bet. However, is it the best selection?

    Only time will tell.

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    Re: Balzer says He wouldn't Draft Dorsey

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMarkable View Post
    Huh? Mr. Pickett played for the Rams at least one year AFTER The Lovester left for Chicago. Same thing with Jimmy "Dead" Kennedy. Therefore the Rams have no one to blame but themselves for more inept free agency actions.

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    My bad, but I still hate that lovie smith and his "lovie-type players".

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