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    Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    BY BERNIE MIKLASZ, Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:10 am


    I hope you all had a swell holiday weekend. Back to work for me. We begin with another edition of Necessary Roughness ...

    * I don't know what to make of the latest round of rumors concerning the futures of GM Billy Devaney and head coach Steve Spagnuolo. If the San Diego Chargers fire GM A.J. Smith, is he headed to St. Louis to take over the Rams' football operation? Will Smith bring Jon Gruden or Jeff Fisher as head coach? With one game left in the Rams' season, we should know soon enough. My best guess is that the speculation is most likely originating from Los Angeles, home of off-the-books Rams adviser John Shaw, who is tight with Chargers' president/owner Dean Spanos.

    Just for fun, a few thoughts on this:

    1. Gruden is a TV star, so any connection to the Rams' job will set off an elevated state of arousal. And Gruden did win a Super Bowl in his first season as Tampa Bay coach, taking over a talented team built by Tony Dungy. But after going 12-4 and winning it all to cap the 2002 season, Gruden went 45-51 in Tampa Bay and was fired following the 2008 season. So what kind of head coach is he, really?

    2. If Smith, as reported, is buddies with Gruden and Fisher ... then why wouldn't the Chargers just retain him as GM and have him hire Gruden or Fisher to replace Norv Turner? If Spanos fires Smith after the season, he'll owe Smith around $2.2 million per season through 2014.

    3. Smith had a sequenece of excellent drafts to build the Chargers and gets credit for that. But Smith seemingly has been losing his golden touch. Smith fired Marty Schottenheimer after a 14-2 season in 2006 and chose Norv Turner as head coach. Though Turner's overall record in San Diego (48-31) looks pretty good on paper, the Chargers have underachieved. The problem used to be flopping in the playoffs; now the Chargers aren't even getting there. This is their second consecutive season of failing to make the playoffs under Turner.

    In the 2009 draft Smith sought a linebacker and picked Larry English over Clay Matthews. (English has started four games for the Chargers; Matthews is a dominating star at Green Bay.) There have been other early-round busts including WR Buster Davis, a first-round pick in 2007. Smith also let RBs Michael Turner and Darren Sproles leave through free agency.

    4. Another issue with Smith in San Diego is his combative style. His abrupt sacking of Schottenheimer is one example. But the Chargers have been mired in very public, very hostile, contract negotiations with a number of star players including QB Philip Rivers. Smith even went as far as publicly ripping franchise great LaDainian Tomlinson through the media.

    As Chargers WR Vincent Jackson told FoxSports.com recently: "If you look at the great teams, the Steelers, the Colts, the Patriots -- everybody's on board, everyone's going together. I'm not sure if we're the only team that deals with (animosity from the GM) but it's something that's been around. I'd like to think it hasn't been a distraction for most guys."

    In a recent, informal poll done by the San Diego Union-Tribune, 82 percent of respondents said Smith should be fired.

    5. All of that said, Smith as a GM and Gruden / Fisher as head coaches have gotten a lot more done than the Rams' current football regime in Earth City. We just wanted to point out a few things about them.

    Moving On...

    * Craziest Rams rumor I've heard in recent days? Spagnuolo stays and Mike Martz comes back as offensive coordinator. I don't think so. Put down the bong, OK?

    * One theory being circulated is this: if owner Kroenke doesn't make major changes, it's a sign that he wants to kill off fan interest in St. Louis as a prelude to moving the team to LA. I don't think I buy that. Los Angeles won't support bad football, so if Kroenke plans to flee, he'd better fix the franchise before heading to SoCal.

    Moving On ...

    * If Spagnuolo is fired after the season, he'll take an unpleasant distinction with him: the worst record by a Rams coach in franchise history, minimum of 20 games. Spagnuolo is 10-37 for a winning percentage of .213. You have to go back to 1937-1938 to find a lesser record; Hugo Bezdek went 1-13. And we're not including interim coaches such as Jim Haslett or Joe Vitt. Among Rams' head coaches that had at least 20 games on their records, here's how it looks at the bottom:

    -- Spagnuolo, 10-37, .213

    -- Bob Waterfield, 9-24, .273 (1960-62)

    -- Scott Linehan, 11-25, .306 (2006-08)

    -- Harland Svare, 14-31, .311 (1962-65)

    -- Rich Brooks, 13-19, .406 (1995-96)

    Interesting to note that three of the five worst coaching records have been attained (if that's the word) in St. Louis. And yet the fan support remains relatively robust.

    Moving On ...

    * Peter King of SI.com and NBC made a point when he discussed the appeal of the Rams' head-coaching job: among the attractive features is plenty of salary-cap space to be used on roster improvements after the 2012 season. The Rams, right now, would have about $40 million in cap space before the 2013 season. That could change a little, but still. The other attributes correctly listed by King: (A) the presence of a young franchise QB in Sam Bradford; (B) excellent position in the 2012 NFL draft. If the Rams lose to the ***** on Sunday they'll have the No. 1 or No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 draft. And that pick can be bartered in exchange for multiple draft choices that would speed up the rebuilding process.

    Thanks for reading ...

    -Bernie


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    Re: Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    Lots of rumors flying around. I like the Spags stays and we bring back Martz as the OC.......hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Re: Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    Lots of rumors flying around. I like the Spags stays and we bring back Martz as the OC.......hmmmmmmmmmmmm
    If this happens, Bradford will be a bust, and he will be done in about two more years. With an OC that protects his QB, Bradford will be a star, and probably last about 10-15 years.


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    Re: Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    Spagnola and Linehan are 1st and 3rd on ther Rams all-time loser list. No wonder we suck so bad.

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    Re: Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    I actually kinda liked Martz .... if he did come back we'd prolly score more in 3 games than we scored all year with McHoodie.
    If a team won their division seven straight times, that would be a NFL record. Now add on that team did it with seven different QB's in seven straight years,that record is unbeatable. To do that feat, you must of had a great Defense. Jack Youngblood was the captain of that defense.

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    Re: Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    ok....combined Linehan and Spags are 21-62. We have suffered enough as Ram fans over the past 5 YEARS! It is time fo rthis organization to change it's woeful ways. Stan, ball is fimly in your court.

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    Re: Bernie Bytes: About those Rams' rumors ...

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiRam View Post
    BY BERNIE MIKLASZ, Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:10 am


    2. If Smith, as reported, is buddies with Gruden and Fisher ... then why wouldn't the Chargers just retain him as GM and have him hire Gruden or Fisher to replace Norv Turner? If Spanos fires Smith after the season, he'll owe Smith around $2.2 million per season through 2014.
    This is the question I ask myself over and over again.


    * Craziest Rams rumor I've heard in recent days? Spagnuolo stays and Mike Martz comes back as offensive coordinator. I don't think so. Put down the bong, OK?
    Haha, fully agree. You have a better chance of seeing HST run for President in 2012 than you do seeing Martz come back here as Offensive Coordinator. Not a chance.

    * One theory being circulated is this: if owner Kroenke doesn't make major changes, it's a sign that he wants to kill off fan interest in St. Louis as a prelude to moving the team to LA. I don't think I buy that. Los Angeles won't support bad football, so if Kroenke plans to flee, he'd better fix the franchise before heading to SoCal.

    Interesting to note that three of the five worst coaching records have been attained (if that's the word) in St. Louis. And yet the fan support remains relatively robust.
    Point B is exactly why Point A won't happen. I have no doubts Los Angeles will be getting an NFL franchise and soon. It won't be the Rams however and for reasons outlined. If LA's getting one of their old teams back, I think we have a better chance of seeing the Raiders return there.

    * Peter King of SI.com and NBC made a point when he discussed the appeal of the Rams' head-coaching job: among the attractive features is plenty of salary-cap space to be used on roster improvements after the 2012 season. The Rams, right now, would have about $40 million in cap space before the 2013 season. That could change a little, but still. The other attributes correctly listed by King: (A) the presence of a young franchise QB in Sam Bradford; (B) excellent position in the 2012 NFL draft. If the Rams lose to the ***** on Sunday they'll have the No. 1 or No. 2 overall pick in the 2012 draft. And that pick can be bartered in exchange for multiple draft choices that would speed up the rebuilding process.
    Correct all across the board. Not mentioning good, young defensive chips to work with (Quinn, Long, Road Warrior Animal Jr.)

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