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    Bernie Bytes: Life After Warner Ain't Pretty

    Bernie Bytes: Life after Warner ain't pretty

    2 hours ago • BY BERNIE MIKLASZ, Post-Dispatch Sports Columnist

    Watching the Rams and Cardinals play in Arizona on Sunday, it occurred to me that we were seeing two franchises that haven’t been the same since Kurt Warner went away.

    I’m not attributing all of the success to Warner, and I’m not blaming all of the failures on the many quarterbacks that tried to replace him as the de facto leader of the two franchises.

    But the differences in the Before and After versions of the Rams and Cardinals are glaring.

    Let’s take a look:

    • From 1999-2001, when Warner started games, the Rams went 40-10. That includes the postseason. The Rams had the league’s best winning percentage over the three seasons. Warner, impacted by hand injuries and concussions, didn’t play much in 2003. Mike Martz released Warner following the ’03 season.

    Since Warner was let go by the Rams, the franchise has a regular-season record of 41-97-1. That winning percentage of .299 is the worst in the league from 2004 until present. The Rams got to two Super Bowls with Warner as QB, and won the championship to cap a storybook 1999 season.

    • From 2007-2009 Warner started 48 games for the Cardinals. In Warner’s starts, the team’s record (including postseason) was 28-20. The Cardinals were 12th in the 32-team NFL in winning percentage from 2007-2009, and the 2008 Cardinals advanced to the Super Bowl before losing a heartbreaker to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    Warner, concerned over his concussion history, retired after the 2009 season. Since Warner’s retirement, the Cardinals have gone 17-26 and rank 25th in the NFL in winning percentage from the start of 2010 until present.

    • Since Warner left St. Louis, here’s the roll call of Rams’ QBs, with the number of games and passing attempts for each player:

    Marc Bulger 74 games and 2,425 passing attempts.

    Sam Bradford 37 games and 1,296 attempts.

    Then there’s Jamie Martin (9 games, 207 attempts), Kyle Boller (7 and 176), Gus Frerotte (9 and 170), Ryan Fitzpatrick (5 and 135), Keith Null (4 and 119), A.J. Feeley (5 and 97), Kellen Clemens (5 and 94), Trent Green (3 and 72), Chris Chandler (5 and 62), Brock Berlin (2 and 31) and Tom Brandstater (1 game, two passing attempts.)

    • The fair thing to do here is point out that the 2003 Rams went 12-4 with Bulger starting 15 games, and Warner starting one game. And even though the 2004 Rams went 8-8 and won a playoff game, things had started to unravel by ’04. But the team did have success with Bulger in 2003 and 2004. Bulger wasn’t a peak-form Warner, but he was very good for a few seasons, including 2006.

    • With Warner as the starter from 1999-2001 the Rams were No. 1 in scoring with an average of 32.7 points per game. They also ranked first in passer rating (102.7), touchdown passes (116) and yards per attempt (8.98) over the three-year stretch.

    • After Warner’s departure, from 2004 until present, the Rams rank 31st in scoring (17.3 points per game), 28th in passer rating (76.6), 27th in touchdown passes (154).

    • Since Warner retired in Arizona, the Cardinals have used six quarterbacks in less than three full seasons: John Skelton (19 games), Kevin Kolb (15 games), Derek Anderson (12), Max Hall (6), Richard Bartel (3) and Ryan Lindley (2).

    • With Warner as the starter the Cardinals from 2007-2009 were ranked 7th among the 32 teams with an average of 25.1 points per game. They were ranked 9th in passer rating (89.6), 5th in TD passes, 10th in yards per attempt.

    • Post-Warner, the Cardinals rank 29th in the NFL with an average of 18.2 points per game. They’re 32nd (last in the NFL) in passer rating (68.1), 30th in yards per passing attempt and 32nd in touchdown-interception ratio.

    With Warner as their starting quarterback, the Rams and Cardinals, combined, were 68-30 and played in three Super Bowls.

    Without Warner as the starting quarterback (during a time frame that begins in 2004) the Rams and Cardinals, combined, are 58-123-1.

    But if you want to throw in 2003, we can do that. This would give the Rams and Cardinals, combined, a 70-126-1 record in games started by someone other than Kurt Warner since the beginning of the 2003 season.

    And I didn’t even present the win-loss numbers of how each franchise fared BEFORE Warner took over as starter.

    Not pretty, not pretty at all.

    And people question whether Warner is a Hall of Fame quarterback? Really?

    Thanks for reading …

    — Bernie

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    Allow me to sum up my feelings on this matter.

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    Re: Bernie Bytes: Life After Warner Ain't Pretty

    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenWing View Post
    Allow me to sum up my feelings on this matter.



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    He forgot About Keith Null...
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    Derp is an expression sometimes used online to signify stupidity, much like the earlier forms of “duh” and “dur.”
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