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    Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    10.04.2009 8:13 pm
    Oct. 4: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?
    By Bernie Miklasz


    Let’s cut to the chase:

    I’ve been covering the NFL for nearly 30 years, and I think the 2009 Rams are the worst non-expansion year team I’ve seen. Well, at least as they are right now, at this moment, sitting at 0-4 following an embarrassing 35-0 beating from the San Francisco *****. I could be wrong, of course. I didn’t sit here and do 12 hours of research to support my “worst ever” observation. That’s all it is; an observation. And this opinion can be revisited and updated in a few weeks, or at the end of the season, as more games are played, and as the Rams progress, or regress.

    But I haven’t seen a mess as big as this for a long time.

    The 2009 Rams aren’t entirely responsible for what happened last year — there are a lot of new players on the roster — but the fact is, the team has lost 14 consecutive games. That’s the longest current streak in the NFL and the longest streak in franchise history. They have lost the 14 in a row by an average of 17 points. In a competitive league where many games go right down to the wire, the Rams are routinely routed by the opposition.

    What about the 2008 Detroit Lions? They went 0-16. So when we’re talking “worst,” they’re the leader in the clubhouse in terms of record. And if the Rams win a game or two, they won’t be the worst. But up to this point, the trend is ominous. At least the 2008 Lions scored points, around 15 per game. And those Lions had (and still have) a big-time playmaker at WR in Calvin Johnson. At least there was some sizzle. And the ‘08 Lions were competitive at times, losing five games by 8 points or less. Overall, the 2008 Lions lost their games by an average of 15 points. Through four games, the Rams have lost by an average of 21 points.

    What about the 2008 Rams, who went 2-14? Well, they were hideous, sure. And we will never forget that beatdown by the NY Jets at the Meadowlands; the Rams were down 40-0 at the half and lost 47-3. But overall, the 2008 Rams lost their 14 games by an average of 15 points. The ‘09 squad is losing by an average of three TDs so far.

    And the Rams don’t score. Not much, anyway. The 2009 Rams have been shutout twice in four games, and were held to 7 points in a third game. They didn’t even have a red-zone possession at San Francisco. They had only 177 yards against the *****. And for the season, the Rams are averaging 6 points per game. Abysmal. For historical perspective, consider this: the 1976 Tampa Bay Bucs — a winless (0-14) expansion team widely considered the most futile outfit in NFL history — averaged 8.9 points per game. Those expansion Buccaneers had more game than what we’ve seen from the ‘09 Rams offense.

    The Rams have scored 7 points, total, in three road games this season. Through four games, they have converted only 31.4 percent of third-down plays — and that would be the worst by a Rams team since STATS LLC began storing third-down conversion rates in its data base in 1991.

    The Rams are averaging 258 yards per game, and if that holds, it would be the 25th-lowest output by an NFL offense since the 1970 merger.

    The Rams’ average of 6 points per game would be the worst by an NFL team since the merger. The “crown” currently belongs to the 1977 Buccaneers, a second-year NFL franchise that averaged 7.4 points per game.

    During the 14-game losing streak the Rams have averaged 11.4 points per game.

    The Rams lack efficiency and danger in the passing game, The Rams are at the bottom of the league in yards per passing attempt, and have hit only only two passes of 25+ yards this season. The Rams have one player on offense, and as we saw in San Francisco on Sunday, defenses will park as many players as desired in the box to swarm Steven Jackson, because the Rams are no threat to burn anyone downfield. And until this changes, unless this changes, I don’t see how the situation will improve in the near future. Jackson is set up for lots of muggings.

    And then there’s this: through the first four games, the Rams have been outscored 58-3 in the second half.

    Seriously: does it can any worse than that? Is it possible?

    I could go on. But where is the relief? When does this 2009 Rams schedule open up to provide instant access to a victory?

    Some thoughts from the game:

    * As I wrote last week, Kyle Boller isn’t the long-term answer at QB. Marc Bulger isn’t the answer. Signing a retread isn’t the answer. The Rams won’t completely turn a losing program over until they install a QB of the future. I continue to hear some really wise individuals on the radio say it would have been silly to draft a quarterback, Mark Sanchez in the 2009 draft. Their “logic” is this: the Rams are bad, so the QB would be getting killed. Let me ask a question: so if I understand this correctly, bad teams should never draft a quarterback to build around? Oh, really? That’s interesting. Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys, coming off a 3-13 season, were insane to draft Troy Aikman in 1989. What were they thinking? And can you believe the stupidity of Bill Walsh, who drafted Joe Montana in 1979? The *****, 2-14, were awful in 1978; it was irresponsible to draft a QB in that situation. And I cannot believe Chuck Noll was foolish enough to waste a draft pick on Terry Bradshaw in 1970. The Steelers were coming off a 1-13 season; only a nutcase would draft a QB at that time. And we’re all laughing at the Atlanta Falcons (4-12) for taking Matt Ryan in the first round in 2008. A question for these Vince Lombardis of the airwaves: is there a NFL rule that dictates you only draft a QB when your team is good? Thanks.

    Update: Jf I may clarify … you don’t have to pick a quarterback in the first round, either. I’m not saying that. Montana, after all, was a No. 3 pick. But the Rams haven’t used a No. 1 pick on a QB since Bill Munson in the mid-1960s. Since 1967, they have used only three No. 2 picks on QBs. It just hasn’t been a priority position for the franchise on draft day. I’m just saying this: at some point, and very soon, the position must become a draft-development priority. The Rams have allowed three or four franchise-caliber QBs to slip through in recent drafts. That cannot continue.

    * On a blog written last week, I issued a warning about Kyle Boller’s road performance during his active playing days (2003-2007) with the Baltimore Ravens. He had a 5-15 record as a road starter, with a poor QB rating of 62.1, and the Ravens lost the last 10 road games started by Boller. His road losing streak is now 11. It wasn’t all Boller’s fault, of course — again, the O-line was bad — but he didn’t play well. Amazingly, fans and media continue to engage in a Bulger vs. Boller debate. It’s like choosing between a toothache and a migraine. My gosh, how this franchise has bottomed out. Fans and media can’t see the daylight, so we sit in the dark, yammering and arguing over bad QBs.

    * DE Chris Long, second overall pick in the 2008 NFL draft: I’m looking at the box score put out by STATS LLC, and perhaps the stats crew missed a play or two; perhaps there was a mistake. But on the unofficial log of statistics, Long’s name does not show up under the categories of “tackles” or “assists.” And this would explain why the Rams have not been able to get better. They simply are not getting the kind of impact that you MUST receive from top draft picks.

    * That Rams offensive line had demonstrated some improvement in the first three games, as evidenced by the 4.9 yards per carry, and a sack rate that had dropped from 8 percent to 4.8 percent. (Part of that is attributable to the QBs getting rid of the ball quicker in a 3-step, or 5-step, dropback. But the line collapsed again Sunday in San Francisco. It was just a horrible effort and performance. The ***** attacked the pocket all day. Most of Jackson’s 79 rushing yards were earned by his ability to bounce outside, or bounce off tacklers. There’s no excuse for such weak line play. GM Billy Devaney will have to answer for the play of this line. He signed or drafted most of it, at a hefty financial cost. I realize that it’s going to take a lot of time to rebuild this entire program, but the O-line was the first priority, and an area where the Rams invested draft picks and free-agent money. So I believe it is fair to expect more immediate results.

    * Third and one … and Samkon Gado is in the game at RB? And you give him the ball? Wow. I’ve tried to be fair and reasonable with this coaching staff, which inherited a talent-thin roster. But if you aren’t sharp enough to put your best players on the field when you have to convert a third down…. this does not inspire confidence in the game-day coaching.

    * Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo finally took a necessary first step by benching an underachieving, mistake-prone, casual-minded player, left tackle Alex Barron. I know that Spagnuolo benched guard Richie Incognito in the first game for a series (or two?) after #68 was flagged for a personal foul. But Incognito was soon back in good graces. Barron stayed out of the game. But here’s what concerns me: in his post-game remarks on the radio, Spagnuolo all but apologized for the Barron benching, saying “that’s not me.” Well, he’d better start holding players accountable and in a tough way. A positive approach works, but only to a point. You have to impose high standards. Players who lack talent can only do so much; they won’t get much better, if it all. But there is simply no excuse for the penalties (10 on Sunday) and knucklehead mistakes. That’s a lack of discipline and focus. And it should not be tolerated. I hope Spagnuolo is tough enough. I guess we’ll see. A coach doesn’t have to express regrets for benching Alex Barron. He should take a bow.

    * And since we’re talking about left tackle … rookie Jason Smith, the second overall pick, has got to be the left offensive tackle when he returns from the knee injury. He should have been there to begin with. The move is overdue. You don’t delay in installing a franchise-caliber LT to accommodate Alex Barron.

    * Rams offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur doesn’t have a lot to work with, and I am trying to keep that in mind. The QB play is mediocre at best. The O-line is erratic. And the Rams have the worst group of receivers in the NFL. That said, I do not understand why the Rams don’t take any shots downfield. Yes, protection is an issue. I know. I just wrote about it. But the Rams do have a speed guy in WR Donnie Avery. Sure, he’s made mistakes, but he’s a second-year WR who was raw coming out of college. You have to keep going to him, to build confidence. You have to keep giving him a chance to make plays. And you have to at least give the defense a reason to be on the lookout for Avery’s speed. He’s the only wideout on this roster who can outrun defenders; you have to utilize that. About 5 minutes into Sunday’s game, Avery made a very nice catch-and-run for 22 yards. It was his most positive play in a long time. OK, so why not go back to him, and keep Avery busy? But Avery didn’t catch a pass again until there was a little more than 5 minutes left in the third quarter. He finished with 3 catches for 47 yards, averaging 15. 7 per reception. The ***** offered an example of what we’re talking about. Their second-year wideout, Josh Morgan, dropped a pass that would have gone for a huge gain. But they came back to Morgan for a 24-yard TD. The Rams have to make more of an effort to connect with Avery’s skill. They don’t have much skill on offense. Avery is the only wideout on the roster with plus speed and skill. And they have to try and run him deep a few times a game, to try and hit a home run.

    * Bernie Bytes: The Rams are concerned about the salary cap, and they have been releasing guys to save money, and in that context, I have no idea what tight end Randy McMichael is doing here. His skills have eroded… when the Rams signed fullback Mike Karney, I was hopeful that he’d make a positive difference as a lead blocker. I don’t see it happening, at least not yet…. since signing a lucrative deal with the Rams, kicker Josh Brown ranks around 25th in the NFL in field goal percentage…I think Steven Jackson gets unfairly dogged by fans most of the time, but he’s gotta do a better job of picking up the blitz…but Jackson ran hard yesterday. He’s been running hard all season. For some reason, he’s become a favorite target of angry fans. Makes me wonder what the real motives are. Jackson leads the NFL this season in gaining yards after contact. (Adrian Peterson may move ahead of him after Monday night). And yet you still hear fans whining that Jackson doesn’t run hard. That’s crazy.

    I know some of you are looking for me to list the “positives” coming out of the game in San Francisco.

    Well, when a team loses by 35 points there are no positives. Did a few guys play well? Of course. DL James Hall has no reason to feel any shame after that game. Same (for the most part) for rookie MLB James Laurinaitis.

    But that’s one of the problems around here.

    We keep coming up with a mostly false list of “positives” for a team that’s now lost 14 consecutive games, and 31 of the last 36. As if there’s a balanced sheet of positives and negatives.

    Raise the standards.

    I’m done growling now.

    Thanks for reading …

    -Bernie


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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Bernie is 100% correct about the lack of impact from the top picks. Tye Hill, Alex Barron, Chris Long, Adam Carriker. Carriker and Long have played decent from what I've seen/heard, but the time has GOT to come for them to really take over.

    I do feel like we will get better as the season goes on... but if not... it would be hard to argue why we are not one of the worst ever.

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keenum View Post
    Bernie is 100% correct about the lack of impact from the top picks. Tye Hill, Alex Barron, Chris Long, Adam Carriker. Carriker and Long have played decent from what I've seen/heard, but the time has GOT to come for them to really take over.

    I do feel like we will get better as the season goes on... but if not... it would be hard to argue why we are not one of the worst ever.
    I don't know whats so hard to understand. It takes about three years for a defensive linemen to really start getting noticed on stats....
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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Great, so tell us something we don't know, bernie.

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    The Rams are in disarray, blah, blah, we can't block, blah blah, number one "bust" picks, blah blah, Steven Jackson is the only "gamer" we have, blah blah, losing to a division opponent, much WORSE the freaking ***** is a disgrace to the Team and City, blah blah, we need A QB and an entire team that can play, blah, blah blah, we suck.

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    OK, time for a whoopin' from MOMmie Dearest. I, for one, am really getting disgusted with all of the negativity. This guy does nothing but make it worse. Here, I'll show ya how to combat it (Mike, this is not at you, it is at Bernie, so DUCK!):

    1. I’ve been covering the NFL for nearly 30 years, and I think the 2009 Rams are the worst non-expansion year team I’ve seen. Well, at least as they are right now, at this moment, sitting at 0-4 following an embarrassing 35-0 beating from the San Francisco *****. I could be wrong, of course. I didn’t sit here and do 12 hours of research to support my “worst ever” observation. That’s all it is; an observation. And this opinion can be revisited and updated in a few weeks, or at the end of the season, as more games are played, and as the Rams progress, or regress.

    Boy, where do I begin? I know! Oakland! Sure, they have a win, but it was against Kansas City, which scares the crap out of no one. Tampa Bay is winless, with the last game against the same Washington Redskins that your "worst team" beat in '08 AND couldn't even hang double digits on this season. Yeah, dude, you're a genius. NOT!

    2. At least there was some sizzle. And the ‘08 Lions were competitive at times, losing five games by 8 points or less.

    You didn't think that keeping Green Bay out of the end zone for three straight drives when they had less than half a field to go was "sizzle" enough for you? Then you need some serious help. Since you like to use an 0-16 team from last year as your measuring stick, I'll do the same. After the Linehan was fired last season, the Rams beat not one, but TWO teams from the supposed toughest division in the NFL, in a ROW, then gave the PATS a run for their money (7 points), another playoff team in the Dolphins (4 points), Division rival Seattle (3 points), San Francisco (1 point), and oops, another playoff team in Atlanta (4 points). Is that not competitive as well?

    3. But the Rams haven’t used a No. 1 pick on a QB since Bill Munson in the mid-1960s. Since 1967, they have used only three No. 2 picks on QBs.

    And how did all that work out? Munson had a mediocre career rating of 71.5. Oooooooooohhhhhhhhhh! What a stud! Tony Banks is everybody's hero! Jaworski's best years were with Philly. Gary who? My point is, the QB position is the riskiest one to use the #1 pick on. Do I need to bring Ryan Leaf into the conversation? Do I really? Your dimness can't continue.

    4. DE Chris Long, second overall pick in the 2008 NFL draft: I’m looking at the box score put out by STATS LLC, and perhaps the stats crew missed a play or two; perhaps there was a mistake. But on the unofficial log of statistics, Long’s name does not show up under the categories of “tackles” or “assists.” And this would explain why the Rams have not been able to get better. They simply are not getting the kind of impact that you MUST receive from top draft picks.


    You know, I WATCHED that game, and not everything makes it onto paper. Long helped push people around so that there would be a hole for a fellow defender to make the plays that go on the stat sheet. That is also production, just not the same kind of production that someone who only has numbers to rely on would understand. Sheesh!

    5. Well, when a team loses by 35 points there are no positives.

    BULL BUTTER! Here's one right now: Only 14 of those points were allowed by the defense, despite being on the field for what felt like forever. Dispute that, I DARE you!

    6. Raise the standards.

    By calling out your "Chicken Little" mentality, I just did. The team and organization are trying like crazy to figure out how to get things going they way they need to. We have to step up and actually support the team, and doing nothing but peein' and moanin' does the exact opposite. I hope like crazy that the players haven't read this and decided that there is nothing left worth fighting for, because there is plenty. There are 16 games in a season, not 4.

    Sorry everybody, but either I am hormonal, or I am just as tired of the negativity as I think I am. But I hope we all learned just now how to rip someone a new one.

    P.S. Mike, you can get back up now.
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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooselini View Post
    I don't know whats so hard to understand. It takes about three years for a defensive linemen to really start getting noticed on stats....
    Granted, the run defense has been getting better, but we still don't have a good consistent pass rush. Yeah, we had 4 sacks last week, but we've got to be able to do it consistently.

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Oh, and while I am at it, if you are wanting to win sooner rather than later, you don't do it by bringing in a player that has to be developed over time. You do so by bringing in players that have already proven that they have their head out of their rear.
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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    One of the worst offensive teams I've ever seen? Yeah, maybe... What's odd about this team is how the can hang around and compete for maybe even 4 quarters. But inevitably somewhere all hell breaks loose and they end up getting killed.



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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by fatlibertarian View Post
    What's odd about this team is how the can hang around and compete for maybe even 4 quarters. But inevitably somewhere all hell breaks loose and they end up getting killed.



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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    If this is the worst ever then by definition of worst they cant go any farther down. people need to just sit back and relax while we go out this season and figure things out. I will admit that the offense is worse then ever expected but just be patient things will work out we have to win eventually.

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie
    I know some of you are looking for me to list the “positives” coming out of the game in San Francisco.

    Well, when a team loses by 35 points there are no positives. Did a few guys play well? Of course. DL James Hall has no reason to feel any shame after that game. Same (for the most part) for rookie MLB James Laurinaitis.

    But that’s one of the problems around here.

    We keep coming up with a mostly false list of “positives” for a team that’s now lost 14 consecutive games, and 31 of the last 36. As if there’s a balanced sheet of positives and negatives.
    Well this is a brilliant statement. What in the world does losing 14 straight have to do with finding positives from the whiners game? Come on Bernie, are you actually saying that any and all positives should be negated from the game because of what has happened the last 2+ years or because they lost by 35? The fact is, the play of the defense was a positive, regardless of how you want to spin it. You do realize that they only gave up 14 of those 35 points, right?

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    The Saints are going to go undefeated and will be known as the BEST TEAM EVER!!!!

    Oh... you think that's a bit premature after 4 games?

    Well, then maybe declaring the Rams the WORST TEAM EVER after 4 games is a bit premature too.

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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    This is more like it, fellers! Doom and gloom will only make things worse. As soon as we show the media and everyone else that we're not giving up, that optimism might infect the eyeballs of the players who read these posts, and they can take it into the locker room and infect the other players, and we might see even MORE effort, and then.....wins might arrive.
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    Re: Bernie: Could Rams Be Worst Ever?

    GM Billy Devaney will have to answer for the play of this line. He signed or drafted most of it, at a hefty financial cost.
    Really, Bernie? Sunday's starters....

    LT - Barron (here before Devaney)
    LG - Bell
    C - Brown
    RG - Cogs (here before Devaney)
    RT - Goldberg (here before Devaney)
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