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    Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Green's mere presence could boost the Rams
    By Bernie Miklasz
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    Thursday, Mar. 06 2008

    I don't know if playing football is good for Trent Green, but bringing Trent
    Green back to St. Louis would be good for the Rams.

    The Rams are recruiting Green to be their No. 2 quarterback. He was here in
    1999 and 2000. He dramatically changed the locker-room culture in '99 before
    falling with a season-ending knee injury. (Hello, Kurt Warner.) Green started
    five games for the 2000 Rams and had a 101.8 QB rating. He was traded to Dick
    Vermeil's Chiefs in 2001.

    Green pitched magnificently for Vermeil and offensive coordinator Al Saunders,
    thriving in the KC version of the offense that lifted the Rams to two Super
    Bowls. In a five-year span (2001-05), only Peyton Manning passed for more yards
    than Green.

    Green's happy existence was rocked by a brutal concussion in 2006, and he moved
    on to Miami for '07. But in his fifth game for the Dolphins, Green was jarred
    by another concussion, and he has missed 19 of the last 32 games.

    He'll turn 38 in July.

    So the warning labels are there.

    After consulting with specialists, Green has been medically cleared to play.

    Still, is it a smart move to keep playing? Green has a wonderful family and
    good health. Why absorb another smack to the head and expose your brain to risk
    in a violent sport? Green has had a fine NFL career and has nothing to prove.

    Green is a winner, and a leader, and an all-around class act.

    "A special person," Rams general manager Jay Zygmunt said.

    The Rams aren't on the brink of winning a championship. And it's not as if
    Green would be guaranteed a chance to play regularly; the Rams invested $65
    million in a new contract for Marc Bulger last summer.

    And Green might have other choices. The Packers, Giants and Saints have
    interest in him. The Packers might be an appealing alternative for Green. If
    Aaron Rogers stumbles as Brett Favre's replacement, Green could take over for a
    team that has postseason aspirations.

    So why St. Louis? Green spent much of his youth here and is a graduate of
    Vianney High. He'd be reunited with Saunders and Rams quarterbacks coach Terry
    Shea, who was Green's QB coach in Kansas City. On a personal level, it's a nice
    fit.

    If Green is determined to play on, I hope he signs with the Rams.

    Yes, part of it is nostalgia. Green is a living symbol of better days for the
    franchise. And fans would warmly embrace him. But Green can make an impact
    here. He's in position to alter the locker-room dynamics again, just as he did
    in 1999. The Rams lack leadership and are short on ultra-competitive
    personalities. Green would undoubtedly be a positive influence.

    Besides, Bulger needs to be pushed.

    Green wouldn't come here to take a paycheck and take it easy. He's too
    competitive. Green wouldn't be disruptive and he wouldn't start a controversy.
    But he would work overtime to prepare, and be sharp, and get into position to
    help the Rams win games.

    Bulger took a beating last season and quickly succumbed to the punishment. But
    in my opinion, there was more to it than that. In my opinion, Bulger wasn't a
    max-out competitor in 2007. He often played as if he wanted to be elsewhere.
    His body language was terrible.

    Can Bulger rebound? It's entirely possible, given the combination of an
    improved offensive line and an enhanced offensive scheme. But Bulger has to
    prove himself anew. After getting the big contract and all of that guaranteed
    money, Bulger must show that he's still driven to compete, and win, and be a
    strong leader.

    If nothing else, Green would push Bulger onto a higher competitive plane. And
    if Bulger continues to slide, the Rams will need someone to take control, run
    the Saunders offense, and challenge his teammates. Green is that guy. He won't
    waste the Rams' money, or his teammates' blood and sweat, or the fans' emotions
    with a halfhearted effort.

    Green loves to play the game. He isn't ready to quit, even if it's the safest
    thing to do.
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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Besides, Bulger needs to be pushed.
    What? Bulger had a pro bowl year followed by him getting creamed with no O line. I guess SJ needs to be pushed, maybe we should get Ricky Williams.
    Last edited by Rambos; -03-08-2008 at 07:35 PM.

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    i dont believe for one second that the "mere presence" of any backup qb is going to change our won lost record unless somehow that presence has an impact on who we add to our offensive line and how healthy that offensive line stays.

    ramming speed to all

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Bulger needs to be pushd. Uh huh.

    Bernie has been watching the biscuits on his plate get pushed by the butter....he eats more, so he thinks that Green can push Bulger and Bernie will get even MORE to eat.

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie
    In my opinion, Bulger wasn't a max-out competitor in 2007. He often played as if he wanted to be elsewhere. His body language was terrible.
    For cryin' out loud, if Payton Manning, Tom Brady or Brett Favre were playing with broken ribs behind the Rams 2007 OL, they would have had terrible body language too.

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Bernie, you have a dangerous amount of biased man love for ol' Trent there.

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    If i was a QB, i would want to be elsewhere aswell
    When you are getting sacked 40 odd times a season and hit god knows how many times more, you kind of lose the enthusiasm you might have once had playing behind that line

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Oh, the pressures that some sports writers must go through in the off-season! Bernie...

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Bernie = Stoopid!

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    I don't think Bulger needs to be pushed. He needs a better line and a better offensive plan.

    Trent Green may end up in Saint Louis, but he is not going to push Bulger at all. Green does not appear to be a durable option that could take a lot of hits which may still happen if the line has another bad year.
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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Bernie I think you need to be elsewhere as well. So push away from that plate stacked high with bacon and lard and give Biggest Loser a call. Of course Bulger wanted to be elsewhere. He wanted to be behind a line that wasnt letting him get pummeled and he wanted to be coached by a coach that could call a respectable game. I am now beginning to realize how Bernie got his job. There must have been a donut eating contest and the winner would fill the vacancy left by a respectable sportswriter. Of course Bernie won and the rest is histroy.
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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    personally i like Trent so i hoped he would have retired for his own health (i know he checked out o.k. alledgedly but still,ya dont know really...)

    i just hope he ends up behind a line that can protect him....e.g. not ours!

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblin` Ram View Post
    personally i like Trent so i hoped he would have retired for his own health (i know he checked out o.k. alledgedly but still,ya dont know really...)

    i just hope he ends up behind a line that can protect him....e.g. not ours!
    Agree, except I hope he ends up behind a microphone instead. Less chance of turning into the next Ali...

    *** DISCLAIMOR *** I am in no way making fun of Ali. Just sad to see someone stay too long in a sport and be afflicted due to injuries. If this was a leg issue and a RB, I would have referenced Earl Campbell. The poor guy can barely get around due to the abuse he took.
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    It amazes me that most of you have such a loyalty to a #'s QB that can't get over the hump when his team was good. Yeah, this team sucked last year and Bulger looked somewhat lost , and that my friends is not the sign of a leader. you all called fr warners # when he was in that spot, Bulger is no different . The Rams line was in shambles and Faulk was out and warner was running for his life, but you all wanted to cut his head off. i think green would be a fine back up because I feel Green s just as good. I hope he does decide on the Rams! And I do feel he could push Bulger and that is what he needs. To be pushed to a leadership type QB. Sorry but for me ,bulger is in his last season and jackson better pick it up to. Bring back Warner as a back up and see how lackadazical Marc changes his stride from this team is mine to OH ****!!!!

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    Re: Bernie on Trent Green ..

    theodus,
    to say MOST of us thought of kurt the way you describe is a bit wide of the mark to be fair!

    i will be honest and say that altho a tough decision had to be made at the time....i agreed with the decision to keep Marc instead of Kurt and still do...that dont make me a kurt hater tho,far from it!
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