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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasRam View Post
    Man, you can be nitpicky sometimes.
    It's not being nitpicky, V. Quite the opposite actually. Production is everything in this league. Potential means nothing in the Win column. Nitpicking would be criticizing Janoris for smoking his blunts right handed instead of left handed.
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    Fixed it for ya.
    Thank you, but no fix needed. We can say Cook wasn't utilized properly, or didn't have the right QB or the right OC or the right whatever. But the bottomline is, his production has not been on par with Graham. And the whole point of this thread was to see if an equation could be drawn between the Saints offense and the 2013 Rams. If so, I believe it will require Cook to be as productive as Graham; which has yet to happen. It's currently a difference, but as I said, by the end of the season hopefully it's not.
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    But at the end of the day Hub is right.
    See, now if everyone would just jump straight to this very valid point, a lot of time could be saved debating various issues.

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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Their one difference being Graham has been productive; Cook has not.

    Hopefully, that difference is erased this year.
    Drew Brees vs. Jake Locker. Cook has the talent, let's hope it was the lack of talent at QB that hurt his numbers. EDIT: This has been discussed but apparently my stupid internet was too slow and they didn't load.

    On another note, throwing to the "open" man would be pretty sweet for Bradford, as those have been few and far between the last few years.
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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by berg8309 View Post
    Drew Brees vs. Jake Locker. Cook has the talent, let's hope it was the lack of talent at QB that hurt his numbers.
    Excellent observation. Which leads to the next question: Which one is Bradford?
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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Has anybody got the statistics on how many plays Graham and Cook actually played in 2012? Wasn't he actually the #2 TE, though not primarily used as a TE in Tenn? Was Tenn comparable to NO last year in passing frequency?

    I could use that info when I think on the Graham / Cook productivity comparison.

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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by Richbert88 View Post
    Has anybody got the statistics on how many plays Graham and Cook actually played in 2012? Wasn't he actually the #2 TE, though not primarily used as a TE in Tenn? Was Tenn comparable to NO last year in passing frequency?

    I could use that info when I think on the Graham / Cook productivity comparison.

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    I don't have the actual stats but I can guarantee you Cook didn't play close to the amount of snaps Graham played. Cook was misused and under-utilized, not to mention he had one of the most inaccurate QB's in the league throwing to him.


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    Hope that it will be again for the Greatest Show On Turf Again!
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    Hub, please tell me you knew I was joking.

    As far as JJ goes, I just exhaled. I will be holding my breath all year tho - let's hope for the best.
    "the Heart Lies and the Head Plays Tricks with us, but the Eyes See True".

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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasRam View Post
    Hub, please tell me you knew I was joking.

    As far as JJ goes, I just exhaled. I will be holding my breath all year tho - let's hope for the best.
    Of course, Sin City. Hence the Janoris comment. And I'm okay with you exhaling, as long as he isn't inhaling.
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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by Richbert88 View Post
    Has anybody got the statistics on how many plays Graham and Cook actually played in 2012? Wasn't he actually the #2 TE, though not primarily used as a TE in Tenn? Was Tenn comparable to NO last year in passing frequency?

    I could use that info when I think on the Graham / Cook productivity comparison.

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    2012
    Graham: 712 snaps, 131 targets
    Cook: 485 snaps, 68 targets

    2011
    Graham: 815 snaps, 145 targets
    Cook: 618 snaps, 74 targets
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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    2012
    Graham: 712 snaps, 131 targets
    Cook: 485 snaps, 68 targets

    2011
    Graham: 815 snaps, 145 targets
    Cook: 618 snaps, 74 targets
    So coupled with the following stats:

    2012
    Graham: 85 rec., 982 yards
    Cook: 44 rec., 523 yards

    2011
    Graham: 99 rec., 1310 yards
    Cook: 49 rec., 759 yards

    we can arrive at per target numbers.....

    2012
    Graham: 0.65 rec., 7.50 yards
    Cook: 0.65 rec., 7.69 yards

    2011
    Graham: 0.68 rec., 9.03 yards
    Cook: 0.66 rec., 10.26 yards

    That is VERY encouraging news. On a per target basis, Cook DOES appear to be on par with Graham! So, if we can simply extrapolate to predict productivity, it's just a matter of getting Cook more targets. Hopefully, that's exactly what happens.
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    Re: "Big Easy" look for Big Easy Sam....

    I wouldn't expect that many more catches for Cook if Sam spreads the wealth among all the receivers as Demoff alluded to. But five or six receivers with that kind of production would be just peachy.

    I want to see a boatload of TD's out of Mr. Cook.

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