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    Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    By Bill Coats 12/14/2007 5:16 pm

    Previously concussed quarterback Marc Bulger is going to start Sunday against the Packers. According to the many “doctors” on various message boards, this is a bad idea.

    Memo to the faux docs: First, Bulger is a smart guy. When it comes to a head injury, he wouldn’t put himself in a position to risk further damage. That’s why he didn’t play last week after his symptoms recurred.

    Second, Scott Linehan is particularly cognizant of what repeated blows to the head potentially could mean. One of his brothers, who had suffered concussions, died at an early age of Alzheimer’s disease – although there is no proof that a direct link exists.

    Third, specialists – plural – have told Bulger that it’s safe for him to return.

    So, please, understand that the proper safeguards are in place and have been followed stringently. Time to stop the second-guessing.

    ***

    He’s the smallest guy in the locker room, but 5-8, 170-pound Darius Vinnett is making a big impression on special teams. The speedster from Arkansas, an undrafted rookie, had a team-high three special-teams tackles last week in Cincinnati.

    “Coming in here, I knew that was going to have to be my role,” Vinnett said. “I’ve just got to get in where I fit in.”

    A cornerback by trade, he played on special teams only briefly for the Razorbacks. But he’s grown to like the assignment. “It’s fun to go out and have the opportunity to make plays,” he said. And what makes him so effective?

    Well, his 4.32 40 speed helps a lot. But also . . .

    “To be a special-teams player, you have to have the want-to,” Vinnett said. “I pride myself in everything I do on the field, and just try to go down there and make plays when I can.”

    Of course, the ultimate goal is to carve out a spot for himself on defense. He fervently rejects any notion that he’s too small to play corner in the NFL.

    “I don’t think my size will hold me back. If it was all about my size, I wouldn’t be here,” Vinnett said. “I just have to be patient and wait for my opportunity, and when I get my opportunity, be ready.”

    ***

    Notes & quotes:

    >>Brett Romberg (ankle) finally is healthy, but Andy McCollum will start at C on Sunday.

    >>Thanks to a large influx of ticket-buying Packers fans, the game is sold out and will be televised locally on KTVI, Channel 2.

    >>Rob Petitti (concussion) will sit again, meaning that Brandon Gorin likely will go the distance at RT.

    >>You have to feel good for rookie WR/KR Derek Stanley, who was promoted to the 53-man roster this week and could be the primary returner vs. the Packers. Stanley, a seventh-round draftee from D-III Wisconsin-Whitewater, has been on the practice squad all season.

    >>Former Rams DT Ryan “Big Grease” Pickett is having a standout season for the Packers.

    All for now. . .


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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    I hope Marc can stay healthy and we can at least stay competetive against a very good Packer team.

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    I like that he is playing, shows we are not throwing in the towel. Please stay healthy though.
    Doctors are VERY cautious when saying if players should/could play or not. Remember Warner's elbow injury earlier this year? Docs said he would be out for 6 weeks. Warner was starting that very next week, not missing a start.
    Sometimes it's pure toughness that gets a player by. Maybe it's a miracle Bulger wasn't killed earlier this year when the O-line was REALLY BAD.

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    I don't have to be a doctor to understand the concept of a cost/benefit analysis. Right now, the benefit of Bulger playing the final 3 games is minimal. Consquently, if there is any risk that doing so could cost him his health, its not worth the trade-off.

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    I don't have to be a doctor to understand the concept of a cost/benefit analysis. Right now, the benefit of Bulger playing the final 3 games is minimal. Consquently, if there is any risk that doing so could cost him his health, its not worth the trade-off.
    According to the specialists, Bulger has no risk starting tomorrow. why shouldnt he start? according to your analysis, almost half of the NFL should bench their starting QBs because they wont be in the playoffs and its just not worth it. (Even the teams with the crappy O-lines). This is football and i dont want to see the quality of the games going down the drain because of the "it doesnt matter anymore" attitude. Plus wouldnt it be sweet if we beat the Packers? then we can defend ourselves against people by telling them: "We beat the Packers....if we were healthy we could beat the whole conference"
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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    am with AvengerRam on this one, Got 3 games left in the season, nothing save pride, is on the line. And when you consider how pathetic the line is playing, why risk your your future; I would want Linehan answer that 65million dollar question. Yes M. Bulger is a competive player, but don't recall seeing him that much in pre-season, so that arguement I am not swallowing.

    Chalk one more up in the QUESTIONABLE CALL COLUMN. Assuming the worst how long might it be that the Rams get another top tear NFL QB

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Dragoon View Post
    Got 3 games left in the season, nothing save pride, is on the line.
    Ahh, Dragoon. If pride is all you got, is it not worth playing for?

    I know there is a contingent of members here who want to win as many games as we can. (We play to WIN the game) As well as a contingent who would rather lose out for better draft position.

    There might even be some who want to lose out to increase the chance of Linehan's dismissal, but I don't think they REALLY exist.:x

    I would put the players on the field who give us the ebest chance to win. Period. If a player is being paid exorbitant amounts of money and is cleared by the doctors to play then he should be on the field. I the OL cannot protect him and he is taking some shots then pulling Bulger could be considered.

    We still have a good chance of NOT finishing last in our division. If we finish ahead of the whiners the season won't be a total loss.:l
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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    No entirely so there ddodger....

    I draw upon my previous service experience that tells me when its time to pull back and regroup. In Somalia we could have stayed and killed many more thousands and we would still be there. But fortunately pulled out since losing more wasn't worth it

    There comes a point where continued battle isn't worth the price of victory. There isn't anything to WIN this season. I just wish the Rams still had Fritzpatrick so he could finishout the season.

    I wonder where all this pride as a professional football player was when they watched there QB laidout on the field? Bulger might have that fighter instinct to fight a losing battle and I applaud his courage, but todate if I was HC and had to look at seasons 08, 09, 10, 11 & etc I wouldnt trust Bulger to the O-line. All I can say to throwing Bulger to the Packer wolves is....TRENT GREEN. Getting perhaps 3 more wins for no return isn't worth the risk; if nothing else it could be an opportunity for the O to redeem themselves playing their second string--NOW that would be something and say alot

    Ya--besting Frisco in the division is something; but it still is a sore point that the SEA:x will take the division. Still there is next year for the Rams to EARN the division championship.

    As to Linehan, and or getting a higher draft pick for a boobie-prize for being one of the worst teams in the NFL is insulting. Linehan's 06 season I wasn't impressed with and 07 confirms in my mind he ought not be HC. Never liked high draft picks for the reason they hit the salary cap hard.

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    I don't have to be a doctor to understand the concept of a cost/benefit analysis. Right now, the benefit of Bulger playing the final 3 games is minimal. Consquently, if there is any risk that doing so could cost him his health, its not worth the trade-off.
    Only benefit that comes to mind is Linehan retaining his job if we win either one of those tough matchups.

    BOLD PREDICTION: If we win one of these two, Linehan stays. If he loses out, his staus is in Limbo.

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    I agree with your draft pick sentiments and the Squawks winning the division is just, well, wrong. Especially since it is my one of my brothers' team.

    But we'll agree to disagree on whether a mercenary should do the job they were hired to do as long as they are healthy enough to do so. I guess that is the crux of the matter, is whether Bulger is healthy enough to play or should be protected to fight another day.
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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    Quote Originally Posted by faulk2jackson View Post
    According to the specialists, Bulger has no risk starting tomorrow.
    Actually, I can almost guarantee you that the specialists would never tell Bulger that there is "no risk." To do so would be to risk a malpractice suit in the event that Bulger is injured again and some other "specialist" were to conclude that the two injuries are related. There is not shortage of medical analysis/opinion finding that there is a cumulative impact of concussions. Consequently, what he was probably told is that there is some risk, but it is sufficiently small to allow him to be cleared to play.

    My point is that there is essentially no benefit to his playing (particularly now, when Linehan's return has been pretty much guaranteed), so any risk, no matter how small, is not worth taking.

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    I am so disgusted by you people that think bulger shouldnt play. You people need to wake up and realize this is football. If that were the case their should only be about 12 games at this point in the season featuring only teams playing for playoff contention. You dont sit down and give up just cause you want to save yourself for next season. That is the worst thing I have ever heard. How bout this for cost benefit analysis. What is the benefit of getting to play in 3 more games against teams battling for playoff spots in a offensive system that is relatively new to the man? What is the benfit of showing your team that you are the leader of this team and you will never quit on them? What is the benefit of showing your fans and the city that you are the quarterback of this team and you play come hell or highwater? The season is 16 games long and you play all 16 games and leave it all on the field.

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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Actually, I can almost guarantee you that the specialists would never tell Bulger that there is "no risk." To do so would be to risk a malpractice suit in the event that Bulger is injured again and some other "specialist" were to conclude that the two injuries are related. There is not shortage of medical analysis/opinion finding that there is a cumulative impact of concussions. Consequently, what he was probably told is that there is some risk, but it is sufficiently small to allow him to be cleared to play.

    My point is...
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    Re: Bulger will play . . . and it’s OK. Honest

    Quote Originally Posted by jquarando View Post
    I am so disgusted by you people that think bulger shouldnt play. You people need to wake up and realize this is football. If that were the case their should only be about 12 games at this point in the season featuring only teams playing for playoff contention. You dont sit down and give up just cause you want to save yourself for next season. That is the worst thing I have ever heard. How bout this for cost benefit analysis. What is the benefit of getting to play in 3 more games against teams battling for playoff spots in a offensive system that is relatively new to the man? What is the benfit of showing your team that you are the leader of this team and you will never quit on them? What is the benefit of showing your fans and the city that you are the quarterback of this team and you play come hell or highwater? The season is 16 games long and you play all 16 games and leave it all on the field.
    And I take it that you will volunteer to push Bulger around in his wheelchair, feed him, change him, and wipe the drool from the corners of his mouth after he's had too many concussions in a short period of time in the name of "leaving it all on the field."

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