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    Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    By BRYAN BURWELL

    So now all the amateur football geniuses and junior GM’s of the world have had time to devote their full attention to concocting wonderful fantasy-football solutions to the Rams current quarterback upheaval, this much is quite clear:

    Everyone has a plan.

    Mark Sanchez. Kirk Cousins. Ryan Mallett. Michael Vick. Chase Daniel. Kyle Orton. Names and outlandish trade ideas are being thrown around with plenty of freedom, but with a short supply of wisdom. And that lack of wisdom pertains particularly to that special breed of crazies who still think Tim Tebow’s best career move would be to put down the SEC Network microphone and race to Rams Park immediately to rescue the season. (Well, they could always use an extra H-back.)

    Yet when all the nuttiness is done, when all the fantasy-football draft strategies are exhausted, when all the impractical dreams have run their course, we’re still left with the only logical course of action for this franchise to take.

    Leave the football team in the hands of the competent veteran who already knows how to run this offense. Whatever wild ideas you might have to bring in a guy from somewhere else, there’s no one out there who is more ready to run the Rams’ offense than Shaun Hill.

    The NFL is not a rec league hustle or a Saturday afternoon game of touch played on the street. You don’t walk in off the street, draw up a few plays in the dirt and tell the receiver to run a buttonhook at the Buick. You don’t bring in a guy who had no knowledge of offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s playbook, then expect him to run through this buzzsaw schedule in the toughest division in football without a glitch. A little recent history lesson should remind you of the disasters that happened when Carson Palmer and Josh Freeman were tossed in the mix in midseason.

    In case you haven’t heard, this NFL quarterbacking thing is not an easy thing.

    On Monday after practice at Rams Park, Jeff Fisher was particularly amused by all the speculation swirling around his football team and the countless trade rumors connected to the Rams. “I don’t really like to deal with hypotheticals, but had Shaun not (already) been here and we had an (injury) issue, we very well could have brought some guys in and see who’s got a better feel for us under center and then go and name a starter,” Fisher told a horde of reporters who surrounded him after a late-afternoon practice. “But we already have a starter. (Hill) was clearly our (No. 2). He steps in and goes and so anything that happens beyond that I can’t comment because we’ve really not done anything.”

    If you need an interpreter to read between the lines, here goes:

    There’s no one out there in the great big NFL universe right now who is available, could become available or who wants to make himself available who presents a better option than Shaun Hill. Teams aren’t going to just give away gifted backups (see: Kansas City and Chase Daniel) without asking for a king’s ransom. And the other teams that have guys they’re more than willing to dump are going to try to hijack valuable assets the Rams aren’t (or shouldn’t be) willing to part with (see: Tavon Austin).

    Why are so many people fascinated with Ryan Mallett when it’s so obvious that the New England Patriots seem to be ready to dump him for rookie Jimmy Garoppolo? Mallett has thrown seven passes in his four-year NFL career. Is this someone you want to mortgage draft picks for?

    Oh yes, and then there is Sanchez, whose greatest accomplishment in the last few seasons in the NFL is the “butt fumble.” He had some limited success with Schottenheimer with the Jets, but he has been a huge disappointment and proved to be a bust as a first-round draft pick. Again, why would the Rams waste any important assets (players or picks) trying to bring in someone who isn’t an improvement on what you already have?

    “There are a lot of players out there that are under contract and so you can’t discuss those things,” said Fisher. “But we’ve not had any discussions with anybody. Again, we’re going to be patient with this.”

    So here’s what the Rams will do. They’ll be patient. They already know that Hill is the guy who will run their offense and they have been satisfied with what they’ve seen out of Austin Davis as well. Remember shortly after the end of the 2012 season, Fisher practically gift-wrapped the No. 2 job to Davis for the 2013 season. However, Davis mysteriously did not rise to the opportunity and by the middle of training camp, Kellen Clemens had won the job. Now a year later, Davis is playing the way the organization envisioned he would, albeit a year late, and now he should have secured a job.

    The next step is to be patient and see what pops up on the waiver wire as we get down to the final cutdown date when rosters must be trimmed to 53 men. NFL personnel people call this churning the bottom of the roster, which means if they see a name that they believe is an upgrade on rookie Garrett Gilbert, they’ll take a look.

    But trust me on this: The next great Rams quarterback of the future is not going to be found on some frantic dumpster dive at the end of training camp.

    The future isn’t now, it’s next spring when the draft rolls around. That’s where you’ll find your QB of the future; everything else is the stuff of silly fantasy or irrational folly.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Hmmm, anybody remember where we got Kurt Warner?

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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by fearsome foursome View Post
    Hmmm, anybody remember where we got Kurt Warner?
    We would also need to find a Bruce, Faulk, Holt, Proehl, Pace, Timmerman, McCollum, Horne, Hakim, and on and on.

    Warner said it himself on NFL Network that he basically had an all star team to work with. They were a sports car and Warner just drove it, he didn't have to build the car to.
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    The backhanded compliments about Austin Davis are amusing.

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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Tebow. Tim Tebow.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    By BRYAN BURWELL

    So now all the amateur football geniuses and junior GM’s of the world have had time to devote their full attention to concocting wonderful fantasy-football solutions to the Rams current quarterback upheaval
    Why do these guys (Burwell's not the only one) always come up with some strawman to open up their stories. No one of any credibility at all is espousing crazy trade solutions. The only people that ARE, are the whack-a-doos on the PD's board. Is that really who you want to be pandering to, Bryan?
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    I'll say this: If any of the QB's that are cut in this next week and a half have grocery bagging experience, we better damn well be bringing them in for a tryout.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by TekeRam View Post
    I'll say this: If any of the QB's that are cut in this next week and a half have grocery bagging experience, we better damn well be bringing them in for a tryout.
    Shaun Hill once sold fireworks at a fireworks store.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyhater View Post
    Tebow. Tim Tebow.
    Yeah... great idea.

    How about we sign Tebow, have him room with Michael Sam, and sell the rights to the season to TMZ.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    The future isn’t now, it’s next spring when the draft rolls around. That’s where you’ll find your QB of the future; everything else is the stuff of silly fantasy or irrational folly.
    Yeah, cause that has been working for the Rams.

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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Yeah... great idea.

    How about we sign Tebow, have him room with Michael Sam, and sell the rights to the season to TMZ.
    now that's just wrong. see what you just did here?
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Yeah... great idea.

    How about we sign Tebow, have him room with Michael Sam, and sell the rights to the season to TMZ.

    If they pay the Rams the rest of the money they need to build a new stadium here, i'm all for it lol.

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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by ramsbruce View Post
    We would also need to find a Bruce, Faulk, Holt, Proehl, Pace, Timmerman, McCollum, Horne, Hakim, and on and on.

    Warner said it himself on NFL Network that he basically had an all star team to work with. They were a sports car and Warner just drove it, he didn't have to build the car to.
    He had two sports cars. The other one was red. My point is that you don't HAVE to draft a QB. I don't think the Rams should trade for one (although it seems to be working in Denver) It is just that there may be a decent player on someones practice squad or gets released in the next week. I'm not too worried about Shaun Hill. He's a good player. It's our #2 that concerns me more.

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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    I don't think the Rams should trade for one (although it seems to be working in Denver)


    Really? What QB are you referring to that Denver traded for.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Every team needs to avoid crazy QB ideas, that goes without saying, but the Rams should always be looking to upgrade the team whenever they can.

    There obviously is not a trade out there for a QB who would be a better option than Hill in the short term, but there certainly could be one for the long term.

    if Les and Jeff wanted to explore it, there could be several late rounders that we passed on in this last draft, who could be upgrades to Gilbert and Austin Davis right now, and Shaun Hill eventually.

    Perhaps one of them becomes available to be plucked from someone's practice squad. And if not them, maybe somebody they replace.

    Point is Les Snead, now is not the time to rest on your laurels.
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    Re: Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas

    Not sure if crazy QB idea are what is needed, but crazy QB plays that work with Hill's skill sets maybe. Not speaking about the Rams but as teams in general most our all should have a "project" QB for just this sort of situation...and yes trade bait for the more desperate teams.

    For the most of the NFC West teams they flirt with potential disaster...just the Rams 2014 will always be a would-have, could-have story with Bradford. I do have one crazy QB idea though, arm chair GMing so to speak but of the 53, the Rams might have to keep an open spot, just encase an interesting QB comes available. Teams flirt with just having 2 QBs to get the most of 53. So maybe, just makes it more likely that someone who would have made the 53, finds themselves on the practice squad

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