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    Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

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    Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    BY BRYAN BURWELL, Post-Dispatch Sports Columnist | Posted: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:55 am

    As we watch the final days of the Rams' 2011 season wind down, Rams Park is suddenly like Paris under siege during the French Revolution. Outside the gates at Earth City is a figurative insatiably bloodthirsty mob, knitting away like Madame Defarge, waiting for heads to come tumbling off the blade of the guillotine.

    The ill-tempered lot lurking in the new market square (the Internet) of this Rams revolution are reveling in anticipation of the wholesale demise of the football operation. They will not be satisfied without blood running in the streets. Their blood lust will not be quenched until Rams owner Stan Kroenke makes a clean sweep of his front office and coaching staff, preferably with mass executions in the Edward Jones Dome at high noon. Excuse me if you non-literary types don't get this "Tale of Two Cities" reference, but I'm about to play the role of Miss Pross and for a moment and try to stymie the revolution.

    I know what you want, and thank goodness I'm here to stop you.

    I know Kroenke is going to do something. I know he has to do something. But before he makes the most significant decision of his 16-month tenure as majority owner, I'd like to take a columnist's liberty and dispense a bit of unsolicited and free advice. No mass executions, please.

    Firing everyone is easy. Making a clean sweep after a likely 2-14 disaster, is surely the most popular thing to do. But let's never confuse easy and popular with smart and right. So in anticipation of Kroenke making at least the first of his intentions public next week, I know the inevitable fallout from this lost season requires some changes to be made. I just hope Kroenke resists the shrieking voices that demand he make some spectacular and immediate cosmetic fix, and instead forge ahead on a more daring path that requires bold and insightful moves rather than easy ones. One of those bold moves would be to keep Steve Spagnuolo around to finish the job he started nearly three years ago.

    I have no reliable intelligence into what's on Kroenke's mind. But I will state my case one more time why I think he ought to keep Spagnuolo. It's very simple.

    Leadership.

    Of all the attributes an NFL head coach should have, the single most important quality he must bring to the job is the ability to convince a room full of Type-A personality football players to follow him over the hill into battle despite the odds. That is a rare quality in the NFL coaching business and to anyone who actually bothers to investigate, Spagnuolo possesses that quality.

    An NFL locker room might be the most demanding room to work in American sports. In this testosterone-overloaded environment, lack of leadership is easily sniffed out. So can quality leadership.

    It's why I've seen phenomenal assistant coaches who could dazzle you with great Xs and Os, yet as head coaches couldn't lead a room full of men across the street even if there were supermodels and free food waiting for them. From the outside looking in, that might not be a big deal to you. But in football circles that is a significant quality, particularly when you have seen the ill effects of a leadership void.

    As a little history lesson, should I remind you that a little more than 13 years ago, Dick Vermeil — now widely acknowledged as the patron saint of Rams Nation and one of the greatest leaders of men this city has ever known — was fighting for his coaching life after going 5-11 and 4-12 in his first two seasons.

    But Vermeil wasn't chased out of town because everyone knew he was the right man at the top of the food chain. He just needed to make some adjustments. So he hired an offensive coordinator named Mike Martz, changed his maniacal practice habits, brought in some critical new talent such as Marshall Faulk and Torry Holt and the mess was turned into a 13-3 Super Bowl championship team.

    Why did ownership keep Vermeil around? Because he was a leader, someone who could manage grown men. It would be great if history could repeat itself in 2012.

    If Spagnuolo is allowed to make a few critical tweaks to his coaching staff, and the right personnel decisions are made in the offseason with the predicted $30 million in cap space and the rather attractive collection of high draft picks available to them should they garner either the No. 1 or No. 2 overall pick, and with a normal offseason that allows Sam Bradford and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels to be in complete lock step in the playbook, this team could make the sort of dramatic turnaround comparable to what the San Francisco ***** and Detroit Lions made this season.

    The players still believe in Spagnuolo, and that's not lip service. It might help if he followed Vermeil's pattern and made a few tweaks to some of his hard-driving ways, too. This is not as lost of a project as it appears to the untrained eye. But it all begins and ends with Kroenke. Does he think his football team is like a car that has been totaled from this wreck of a season, or does he think it can go into the shop and with a few new parts come back out as good as new?

    I have no idea what's on Kroenke's mind, but I would be infinitely more impressed if he has the audacity to forge ahead on his own bold path to fixing his football operation than if he goes fluttering along on the winds of popular opinion.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    here here. I couldnt agree more....
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Leadership.

    Of all the attributes an NFL head coach should have, the single most important quality he must bring to the job is the ability to convince a room full of Type-A personality football players to follow him over the hill into battle despite the odds. That is a rare quality in the NFL coaching business and to anyone who actually bothers to investigate, Spagnuolo possesses that quality.
    I am sure I can quote a few Generals who had great leadership and his men believed in him as he lead them into battle. ONLY TO GET SLAUGHTERED ................ much like Spags.

    We need a leader who is also ferkin smart.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Burwell View Post
    But Vermeil wasn't chased out of town because everyone knew he was the right man at the top of the food chain. He just needed to make some adjustments. So he hired an offensive coordinator named Mike Martz, changed his maniacal practice habits, brought in some critical new talent such as Marshall Faulk and Torry Holt and the mess was turned into a 13-3 Super Bowl championship team.
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    Let's compare. 1999 was Vermeils 3rd season, like 2011 was for Spagnolo. Spags got a new OC named Josh McDaniels. Spags went out and got who he felt was critical new talent like Sims-Walker. Vermeil picked up Torry Holt in the first round of the draft, who made an immediate difference. Spags picked up Robert Quinn. In 1999 Vermeil lost his starting QB, he had a promising young gun to replace him. in 2011 we lost our starting QB and had a journeyman to replace him.

    Looks like there were a lot of similarities between this season and our 1999 season. The main difference was Vermeil made good decisions with personnel and Spags didn't.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Refresh my memory, just what are the characteristics of a "Type A" personality?

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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMarkable View Post
    Refresh my memory, just what are the characteristics of a "Type A" personality?
    Well, as the capital of Taiwan, it's home to 2.6 million people, and nearly 7 million in the metro area. So I'm sure the personality of one who lives there would be...........oh, I'm sorry, you said "Type A".
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by chucknbob View Post
    Let's compare. 1999 was Vermeils 3rd season, like 2011 was for Spagnolo. Spags got a new OC named Josh McDaniels. Spags went out and got who he felt was critical new talent like Sims-Walker. Vermeil picked up Torry Holt in the first round of the draft, who made an immediate difference. Spags picked up Robert Quinn. In 1999 Vermeil lost his starting QB, he had a promising young gun to replace him. in 2011 we lost our starting QB and had a journeyman to replace him.

    Looks like there were a lot of similarities between this season and our 1999 season. The main difference was Vermeil made good decisions with personnel and Spags didn't.
    This is the primary reason why Spagnewnono cant be allowed back as head coach. This person has demonstarted the inablity to adapt and grow as a HEAD COACH.

    He has consistantly shown the inability to micomanage games has hurt the Rams, not just htis year, but last year as well. He is overtly conservative as a head coach. He will not take calculated risks, and would rather settle for complacency instead.

    I cannot understand why keeping Spags can do us any better. The comparsion to Vermeil is reaching at best. Vermeil was a proven superbowl coach in his prior years, where Spags isnt.

    When Vermeil left the Rams and went to KC, he changed that team for the better as well; there again proving that he knows the nuances of the NFL game.

    The benefit of any doubt has been forfeited by Spags as demonstrated by his actions these past years.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDez View Post
    I am sure I can quote a few Generals who had great leadership and his men believed in him as he lead them into battle. ONLY TO GET SLAUGHTERED ................ much like Spags.
    George Armstrong Custer?

    Burwell knows how it works in the NFL. The Rams went from Robinson, to Knox, to Brooks, to Vermeil in the span of 9 years before it got turned around. Spags got his shot, but it just didn't work out. It happens, a lot. If it were just about injuries, bad luck, changes and growing pains, I could see giving Spags a pass, but it's not.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    The only way Spags stays is if he agrees to a demotion and becomes the DC. So that pretty much spells doom for his stay here in St. Louis, because I certainly can't see that happening.

    Spags is a nice guy, his problem is, football is not a nice guy sport.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Burwell clearly has Stockholm Syndrome.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    I want to keep Spags, I think it speaks loads about him that after the three miserable years that he's had, he still seems to have the loyalty of the players. His tenure here has not been successful so far (obviously), but HC are like QBs times when it comes to getting too much credit for both wins and losses. I'm not saying that he's completely blameless, but I think pinning everything on him is unfair.

    That being said, I completely understand why a lot of people want him gone, and if he's fired I understand. Hopefully Kroenke makes the right decision based on what he's seen from Spags, regardless of what decision that is.

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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    I wouldn't mind keeping Spags around. Go back to a WCO, get the #1 pick, trade for a crap load, get all our guys back healthy, and were a playoff contender.

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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by sosa39rams View Post
    I wouldn't mind keeping Spags around. Go back to a WCO, get the #1 pick, trade for a crap load, get all our guys back healthy, and were a playoff contender.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    I'm alright with keeping Spags if he's willing to change his coaching style for the better (not scheme-wise). Continuity is crucial for the Rams if Bradford wants to be successful in the pros. Maybe hiring Dick Vermeil as President of Football Operations can help Spags become a better coach.
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    Re: Burwell: Be smart, keep Spagnuolo

    It's Spags third year as coach, so I expected to see a lot more progress within himself, and the players he helped bring in. If Spags was doing a better job, which is going unseen. Then surely, their would be more evidence to support this. Apart from his team playing hard this year, in terrible circumstance's. I can't honestly think of too much else, I'd could give him credit for. The players do seem to like Spags, but for whatever reason, they consistently fail to reward him with good football, on game day. Which is the bottom line for any coach, who wants to be at the top of their profession.?

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