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    Close, but no victory

    By Jim Thomas
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    Monday, Oct. 08 2007

    Was it or was it not a fumble by Arizona running back Edgerrin James late in
    the second quarter?

    Was it or was it not a case of Rams players intentionally kicking the ball
    later in the same quarter, preventing Arizona from getting a play off before
    the half ended?

    Like everything else these days, both of those disputed calls went against the
    Rams. The result was two touchdowns for Arizona in its 34-31 victory over St.
    Louis on Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Debate those calls all you want, but there's no debating this: The Rams remain
    winless five games into the 2007 season and simply can't find a way to end
    their run of bad luck, bad play and bad health.

    "I've never been a part of anything like this on any level as far as not being
    able to get a win," wide receiver-return man Dante Hall said. "Not getting a
    call. Not making the plays consistently. I couldn't tell you what it is, or put
    my finger on it. I don't think anyone can. We just can't get a win. It's
    unbelievable what's happening to this team."

    With coach Scott Linehan calling the plays and Gus Frerotte starting at
    quarterback in place of the injured Marc Bulger, the Rams nearly matched their
    point total of the previous four games in one afternoon. Touted offseason
    pickups Drew Bennett and Randy McMichael

    caught their first TD passes of the season as the Rams showed new energy with
    frequent use of the no-huddle offense.

    Rookie running back Brian Leonard, subbing again for the injured Steven
    Jackson, rushed for 102 yards and averaged 5.7 yards a carry. Kicker Jeff
    Wilkins snapped out of his field-goal funk with kicks of 46, 35 and 31 yards.

    But it wasn't enough.

    On defense, the Rams played with more intensity than they have displayed all
    season. Cornerback Fakhir Brown, his four-game NFL suspension over, made his
    presence felt with two interceptions.

    But it wasn't enough.

    For the third time this season, the Rams had a lead in the third quarter. For
    the fourth time this season, they were locked up in a "one score" game in the
    fourth quarter.

    But once again, the Rams couldn't finish.

    "If things were going for us, we wouldn't be here talking about things going
    against us," Linehan said. "Eventually, if we keep our heads about us, the game
    does turn around."

    It hasn't yet. In fact, it swung dramatically in Arizona's favor late in the
    second quarter. The Rams were leading 10-3 with under four minutes to play in
    the half when James headed up the middle on a second-and-goal play from the
    Rams' 6. But the ball squirted loose as James went down at the 1. Four Rams
    raced into the end zone after the ball, with rookie cornerback Jonathan Wade
    falling on it for an apparent touchback.

    Or not. Arizona left guard Reggie Wells made it over to Wade in the end zone
    and came out of a pile with the football. After some discussion, the play was
    ruled a touchdown for Wells and Arizona. Not a touchback. That led to an
    unsuccessful replay challenge by Linehan.

    Referee Gerald Austin told a pool reporter that replays never showed
    conclusively whether James was down before the ball popped out or not. So that
    part of the call stood — that it was a fumble. Now, what about the Wade — or
    make that Wells — recovery?

    "The ruling on the field was that the defensive player (Wade) had not gained
    full control of the ball before being hit by the offensive player (Wells), who
    came up with the ball," Austin said. "The ruling was a touchdown.

    "We didn't have any shots in replay that would give us visual evidence to
    change it, so we had to stay with the call on the field. My understanding is
    that later (television) had a shot that showed his elbow was down, but we never
    had that in replay."

    It was not clear whether Austin meant James' elbow, which would've meant no
    fumble. Or Wade's elbow, which would've meant a Rams recovery in the end zone
    and a touchback.

    In any event, the ruling hit the Rams like a sucker punch.

    "At that moment, I'm sure everyone is thinking the same thing," Hall said. "'Oh
    my God, can we just get a break?' You almost want to get on your knees and ask
    God."

    But no prayers were answered. Not then, and not at the very end of the half,
    when it looked as if time had expired after James carried to the 1. With
    Arizona frantically trying to get off another play before the half expired,
    Austin's crew ruled that a Rams player purposely kicked the football at the
    line of scrimmage before Arizona could snap it, leading to a delay-of-game
    penalty.

    The teams were ordered back onto the field even though time had expired on the
    scoreboard clock. Former Rams Super Bowl hero Kurt Warner scored on a
    quarterback sneak on the next play, giving Arizona a 17-13 lead and putting the
    Rams another step closer to 0-5.

    "We're going to win — don't get me wrong," defensive end Leonard Little said.

    He just didn't say when.


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    Re: Close, but no victory

    Quote Originally Posted by RamWraith View Post
    By Jim Thomas
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    Monday, Oct. 08 2007

    Referee Gerald Austin told a pool reporter that replays never showed
    conclusively whether James was down before the ball popped out or not. So that
    part of the call stood — that it was a fumble. Now, what about the Wade — or
    make that Wells — recovery?

    "The ruling on the field was that the defensive player (Wade) had not gained
    full control of the ball before being hit by the offensive player (Wells), who
    came up with the ball," Austin said. "The ruling was a touchdown.

    "We didn't have any shots in replay that would give us visual evidence to
    change it, so we had to stay with the call on the field. My understanding is
    that later (television) had a shot that showed his elbow was down, but we never
    had that in replay."


    It was not clear whether Austin meant James' elbow, which would've meant no
    fumble. Or Wade's elbow, which would've meant a Rams recovery in the end zone
    and a touchback.
    So how does FOX have a view of Edge's elbow being down, but the NFL replay doesn't? The refs should have access to all views no matter what camera they come from. Truly pathetic.
    BRUUUUUUUUUUUCE


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    Re: Close, but no victory

    Quote Originally Posted by ramsbruce View Post
    So how does FOX have a view of Edge's elbow being down, but the NFL replay doesn't? The refs should have access to all views no matter what camera they come from. Truly pathetic.
    I'll bet Belichick has it on tape.

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