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    Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Torry Holt and Donnie Avery had very different rookie years.

    Holt was a starter from day 1 and the #2 WR on a team that won the Super Bowl. He played in an offense with Bruce, Holt, Hakim and Proehl to take the pressure off of him. His QB had an MVP year playing behind strong pass protection.

    Avery started the year injured, and worked his way into the starting lineup in October. He too was a #2 WR, though at times he seemed like the top target. He played on an offense that struggled, with many ineffective or injured players, on a team that won 2 games.

    Still, with all these differences, their stats were fairly comparable:

    Holt: 16 games, 15 starts, 52 receptions, 788 yards, 6 TDs
    Avery: 15 games, 12 starts, 52 receptions, 674 yards, 4 TDs (3 receiving, 1 rushing)

    While I am by no means suggesting that Avery will match Holt's production over the next several years, I think when you look at it this way there is a lot to be optimistic about with Donnie. He had a very good rookie year, and should get even better.

    Something to look forward to.


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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    I've liked what I've seen so far from him. I hope Holt is back next year, I think he and Avery can be a very good duo for us.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Good point AVR, he has had a solid year, and should get better as time passes, but he has to work on his route running.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Agreed. Avery's been a positive surprise since he got drafted. As AV says, a player to look forward to.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    He has looked good. I can't wait to see what he can do next year if healthy all year and having had a year under his belt.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Avery is the real deal, now we need to keep drafting guys that can play.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Holt was a starter from day 1 and the #2 WR on a team that won the Super Bowl. He played in an offense with Bruce, Holt, Hakim and Proehl to take the pressure off of him.
    just busting your chops AV.
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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Avery's first season is pretty encouraging. Durability is going to be key for him I think. If he can stay healthy, and there is some concern there, then I think he'll only get better. I don't see him as ever being a #1 though. The Rams still need one of those IMO. A very good compliment at the #2 WR spot would seem to be what we could have in Avery.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    He is something to look forward to. However, I believe Holt needs to come back. He's still a good player with such class. We can't have Avery running around there alone. Have Holt back. We need him out there.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Quote Originally Posted by eric2810 View Post
    just busting your chops AV.
    Okaaaay.... not sure how that qualifies as busting my chops.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Michael Clayton had one of the best years in history for a rookie WR. He's two days away from flipping burgers, don't read too much into it.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Quote Originally Posted by HornIt View Post
    Durability is going to be key for him I think. If he can stay healthy, and there is some concern there
    What does that mean? Durability is a concern? He was injured... it happens. Seems to me that he played through his injuries and played well. How does that make his durability a concern? Are his bones less dense than the average WR's? Are his muscles, ligaments and meniscus more susceptible to tears? Some cliches that fans use are just nonsensical if you give them any thought.

    I don't see him as ever being a #1 though. The Rams still need one of those IMO. A very good compliment at the #2 WR spot would seem to be what we could have in Avery.
    How could you possibly know that? He had a rookie season that was very encouraging. There are plenty of #1 WRs who did not come out of the gate nearly as well as Avery did.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Quote Originally Posted by RedArcher7 View Post
    Michael Clayton had one of the best years in history for a rookie WR. He's two days away from flipping burgers, don't read too much into it.
    Actually, Clayton took a day off from his burger flipping today to catch a 58 yard TD pass...

    True he hit his peak at an unusually early point. There are far more examples of WRs who did not play as well as Avery did this year when they were rookies but went on to be great players.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Actually, Clayton took a day off from his burger flipping today to catch a 58 yard TD pass...

    True he hit his peak at an unusually early point. There are far more examples of WRs who did not play as well as Avery did this year when they were rookies but went on to be great players.
    I think it's a given Clayton's gone.

    You're right that some have done worse and gone on to do great, but you could make this comparison for just about any player at any position.

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    Re: Comparing Holt's Rookie Season To Avery's

    Not really. Great RBs and LBs are often great as rookies. Great QBs and WRs usually take a few years to develop. Depends on the position.

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