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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    It's no secret that Dahl is not a quality starter and needs to be replaced, but a running back doesn't put up over 200 yards on the ground because of just one guy.
    No, he doesn't put up 200 yards. BUT Dahl had a chance to stop Peterson after 10-15 yards on both the long runs, and fluffed his lines. The two runs were 82 and a 49 yarder i believe. Even if Dahl does his job 15 yard from the LOS, thats 101 yards that come from Dahl not doing his job.


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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Adrian Peterson racked up over 200 yards today because guys on our interior defense, who had him contained on his two big runs, could not wrap him up and tackle him. Case closed. That doesn't fall on Dahl.

    That said, Dahl stinks. He plays because we obviously don't have anyone better in the eyes of the coaching staff. Look for us to target a great safety early in the draft.
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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by sosa39rams View Post
    Can't blame him too much. 9 out of 10 times AP will make Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or Rod Woodson miss in the open field. The real problem is allowing AP to even get to the secondary. Where were our LB's today? Absolutely invisible.
    AP is good, but peterson didn't even have to juke to make dahl miss...he just ran in one direction and dahl couldn't figure it out
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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by tomahawk247 View Post
    No, he doesn't put up 200 yards. BUT Dahl had a chance to stop Peterson after 10-15 yards on both the long runs, and fluffed his lines. The two runs were 82 and a 49 yarder i believe. Even if Dahl does his job 15 yard from the LOS, thats 101 yards that come from Dahl not doing his job.
    Okay, so we're talking about the difference between bad run defense and really bad run defense. Sounds illuminating!

    I don't think you're going to find anyone who disagrees with the notion that Craig Dahl is overmatched as a starter in the NFL. Most of us have known this since 2010.

    I think the point some of us are making here is that plenty of people more talented than Dahl failed to do their jobs as well, in order for Peterson to reach the point on the field where Dahl was the Rams' last hope at stopping him.

    It's easy (and dare I say lazy) to react to today's game by saying, "Man, Craig Dahl is awful." There was plenty of "awful" to go around on defense today.

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jockelite View Post
    No body is blaming him for everything that goes wrong with the Defense. But he is not a starting caliber player on the Rams nor any other NFL team. We as a fan base are sick of watching him embarrass himself every Sunday on the football field as he does little to help us as a Defensive unit.
    Sorry to disagree, but that is not how I read the OP. Not to mention he bashes another poster in another thread simply because he does not want to acknowledge the fact that there was holding on the play. He can blame dahl but don't you dare blame holding.

    Yes dahl is often a liability but I ask again: where the hell was JL or any of the other LB's on the play?

    BTW -You might speak for the "fan base" (which I highly doubt) but you don't speak for this fan.

    Once again this thread is as stupid as a thread that blames Bradford for today's loss.



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    Craig Dahl...

    Craig Dahl's routes to the ball carrier and the angles he takes to get a tackle make Jason Sehorn and Michael Hawthorne look like some of the best tackling safeties to play the game.

    Point being is that we have holes on this team but the biggest glaring hole on this team is Craig Dahl. He tries oh so so hard and ill give him credit for that but trying your hardest does not cut it in the NFL.
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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by sosa39rams View Post
    I never said he doesn't suck.. I'm absolutely befuddled with the fact that we have a 10x better S in Darian Stewart sitting on the bench for a scrub.. But how can you put that all on Dahl? I can guarantee you right now Darian Stewart wouldn't have made those tackles either (Especially considering he was a bottom 3 S in most missed tackles in the NFL last year). AP should NEVER be left in the fate of a Safety.. You're asking for trouble if thats the case.
    O im definately not blaming Dahl for the Ds performance today. Im more attacking his play this whole year.

    You could just tell when Peterson was about to have a big play. The DEs were pushed outside, DTs were manhandled backwards, and our LBs werent scraping off there blocks. And then you have this god by the name of Adrian Peterson face to face with this nerdy, puny white boy Craig. Like it was almost fate.

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Okay, so we're talking about the difference between bad run defense and really bad run defense. Sounds illuminating!

    I don't think you're going to find anyone who disagrees with the notion that Craig Dahl is overmatched as a starter in the NFL. Most of us have known this since 2010.

    I think the point some of us are making here is that plenty of people more talented than Dahl failed to do their jobs as well, in order for Peterson to reach the point on the field where Dahl was the Rams' last hope at stopping him.

    It's easy (and dare I say lazy) to react to today's game by saying, "Man, Craig Dahl is awful." There was plenty of "awful" to go around on defense today.
    True, but having AP gain 100 odd yards on 24 carries is much better than 24 carries for 212

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferter View Post
    Sorry to disagree, but that is not how I read the OP. Not to mention he bashes another poster in another thread simply because he does not want to acknowledge the fact that there was holding on the play. He can blame dahl but don't you dare blame holding.

    Yes dahl is often a liability but I ask again: where the hell was JL or any of the other LB's on the play?

    BTW -You might speak for the "fan base" (which I highly doubt) but you don't speak for this fan.

    Once again this thread is as stupid as a thread that blames Bradford for today's loss.



    This thread was originally created asking a question as to what our opinion on Craig Dahl is. I should have posted more clearly as I am saying that he is the worst starter on our team, and in NO way am blaming him for the runs given up. The defense as a whole unperformed throughout the game. One player could not be responsible for giving up the yardage that was given up today as it is an 11 man unit.

    And the part on the fan base. I could put money that the majority of Rams fans would rather see Darian Stewart on the field rather than Craig Dahl. Craig Dahl has done little to prove his worth on this defense rather than being at the right place at the right time for an interception and a couple tackle. I would assume and hope other fans can see our problem at SS.

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by tomahawk247 View Post
    True, but having AP gain 100 odd yards on 24 carries is much better than 24 carries for 212
    Yes, in the sense that catching your girlfriend cheating on you is better than catching your girlfriend cheating on you with your best friend. While one situation is worse, they're both pretty bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jockelite View Post
    This thread was originally created asking a question as to what our opinion on Craig Dahl is.
    The same as it's been for the last three seasons: he's not good.

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by mh-i View Post
    Dahl has stunk since he's been here. That said where was Laurenitus or any of our linebackers on those runs? Dahl is the last line of defense on plays like that.
    Dahl and the LB's were horrid as the game went along. They all came out in the 1st on fire and then declined greatly.

    Dahl is a scrub. He gives everything he's got every week and the man gets an "A" for effort and a "D" for talent.

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    It's no secret that Dahl is not a quality starter and needs to be replaced, but a running back doesn't put up over 200 yards on the ground because of just one guy.
    Sure one person can be the result of a RB gaining 200+ yards, if he is the guy that's responsible for calling Offensive Holding against the OL. And he did it at least twice, for no less than 134 yards.


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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jockelite View Post

    And the part on the fan base. I could put money that the majority of Rams fans would rather see Darian Stewart on the field rather than Craig Dahl. Craig Dahl has done little to prove his worth on this defense rather than being at the right place at the right time for an interception and a couple tackle. I would assume and hope other fans can see our problem at SS.
    You could put money on alot of things that are equally as stupid. Darian Stewart is no more of an answer than dahl. Believe it or not we do not have any elite players on this defense. Most of them are bums and castoffs.

    Still no answer where the LB's were on the play?

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferter View Post
    You could put money on alot of things that are equally as stupid. Darian Stewart is no more of an answer than dahl. Believe it or not we do not have any elite players on this defense. Most of them are bums and castoffs.

    Still no answer where the LB's were on the play?
    yeah Finnegan, Jenkins, Long, Brockers, Quinn, Fletcher, Laurinitis = bums and castoffs.

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    Re: Craig Dahl...

    btw Dahl is awful. I have wanted him gone since the moment we signed him. He seems to be the guy who always blows a coverage, always gets sucked in on playaction, always overruns the play and on and on.

    God Matt Elam would look good in Rams colors.

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