That's what I like about discussion like this bruce.....we can do it without yelling at each other. mike and I have debates like this quite often and it always turns out being informative. For me at least.
Keep the discussions coming. This is healthy.
I'm still confident we will make a few more moves that will improve things and get that must score number down to 30 points.:)
Well, here's something else.....(always something else with me....lol)
IF the Rams had a secondary that is tough to throw against, because last year we weren't that tough, would that help the LB's in run pursuit?
There is no such thing as a secondary to tough to throw against Tx. You could put 4 HOFs out there and even they would get torched by even an average offense if there's no pass rush.
If we could find ourselves that sort of player (Cough...Hill...Cough)(Cough...If we're very lucky...Cough) I'll bet we could do the same, which forces the other team to throw towards the other members of our secondary and to run the ball more ooften than not. If we can get...stability on the line, solid is all i'm asking, i think it goes lengths towards helpin the defense.
Well, then I hope Bulger dosen't develop a rotator cuff problem because our D line is terrible and they aren't going to get any better. And if that is where everything starts and ends on D, then why are we spending all our money on offense? I would have settled for one great WR, let one go, and spent some money on the D line.
i wish more people would listen to nick, and stop fretting,
Ok, everyone is saying that we need to majorly improve the initial point of contact. So, let's trade up and get Branch. If not, and the Rams don't necessarily improve the front line.....then all this "fretting" better go to the front office instead of on ClanRam.
1. This is a nice discussion....especially for the offseason.
2. At this point the 2007 defense looks exactly like the 2006 defense. All 11 starters are still under contract, and the top 11 tacklers are returning. It seems to me, even if we did nothing in the draft, the 2007 defense is most like going to perform at a level near the 2006 team.
3. The 2006 defense (which should be close to the 2007 defense) gave up 23.8 points per game, not 30 points per game, not 35 points per game, not 40 points per game........but 23.8 points per game. That's not insurmountable.
4. The 2006 defense = 23.8 points per game (28th), 335 yards per game (23rd).
The 2000 defense = 29.4 points per game (31st), 361 yards per game (24th).
If we address the title of this thread, ie the suggestion that the current D is as bad as that of 2000, HU really does put a lot in perspective. Many of us have been talking a lot about it without actually looking at the facts and figures.
We have the same players as last year, with a few nice additions, so we're no worse. We're in our second season of Haslett's system so we can only get better at executing it.
We can't expect miracles from Linehan and co. They inherited a very poor D and have improved it a lot in just a year. Last years D was hugely improved, especially in the secondary, over the D of 2005.
We could really do with a big DT but there's none available in FA. All we can do at the moment is hope for a good draft and perhaps for some june 1st cuts that the Rams could sign(though that's noy very likely).
Overall the team is in a much better position than it was this time last year.there's no point moaning over what we can't change. Until the draft there's not going to be any difference makers the Rams can sign on D, so we'll just have to live with it and hope for an improvement from the guys we have now.