Depth is the guard against injuries, and that's why I would love to see us go after a veteran LB and another offensive lineman. Hopefully, we'll also re-sign Stussie as well, so we have our OT depth going into the draft as well.
He still had 1 year left on his deal here, so yes the Rams did let him go. He wasn't going anywhere if the Rams fulfilled his contract. He already restructured his deal two years ago, and now the Rams ask him to do it again, over 2 million dollars when we are extremely thin at WR as it is. In my opinion that is a horrible business decision. It also seems like a slap in the face to Bruce. Age is just a number, he can still play. I would have no problem cutting him if he couldn't play. The fact is he still can play, and we are extremely thin at WR. I don't think the money Bruce asked for was too much.
Another fact is the Front Office/Staff put us in cap trouble in the first place, not Bruce. The fact that we overpaid for Bennett (and others) sealed Bruce's fate. How is that Bruce's fault?
So you can think it was Bruce's fault and you're entitled to your opinion, but remember that's only your opinion, not a fact.
Look to all negative seekers no matter how you slice it we will be better this year. Why spend so much time trying to curb any enthusiasm around here. Lets try to enjoy some of our minor victories. Such as Devaney being more in charge of player evaluation, Saunders offense and play calling instead of Linehans. We have most of our players returning and healthy after a horrendous injury filled season. We have the second pick in every round.
Gees what good does it do to be a fan if all that you can find is negatives what fun is that. Man makes a guy not want to come on to a fan message board when all thats talked about is how bad we are.
I don't mean to throw water on the fire. I am just trying to reason in my mind how we are going to be better. I hope we have done enough. I can recall in 1999 how excited I was when we got Faulk, Williams, Green, and drafted Holt. I thought we were going to be good then but of coarse I did not know anything about Warner. We went from worse to first then this just don't fill the same.
P.S-Nobody said he couldn't play, the fact of the matter is he's up in age and truthfully isn't worth the money he's getting paid anymore. That is just reality. It's up to you to accept it.
I'm all for depth, but we also had depth at the start of last year and look what happened to our "depth". Don't get me wrong, keep the enthusiasm coming. Just wait to annoint a playoff berth for this squad till about week 10.
How do you know he "obviously wanted the money." Have you asked him? How do you know what was in his heart? Do you know him personally? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't. Maybe he felt slighted by the Rams because they still owed him a year on his deal and they asked him to restructure again. Who knows what the real deal was. So again you have your opinion, but that doesn't make it a fact.
Who are you to say if he NEEDS the money or not. Never count someone elses money.
I know my Rams history just fine, don't worry about what I know. Worry about learning the difference between an opinion and a fact.
Again your opinion is he wasn't worth the money, that doesn't make it a fact. My opinion is that he was worth the money, and we are thin at WR. I think it was a bad move by the Rams.
P.S-How long I've been here is completely irrelevant to what we're discussing. Stop bringing in pointless b.s into your useless arguments.
I am all about reality here and always have been. The reality is you presented your opinion about Bruce as a fact. Maybe I came across a bit harsh, that wasn't my intention. My intention was to point out that there are valid reasons to keep Bruce, and also valid reasons to not keep Bruce. We already hashed and rehashed them weeks ago. Some of us thought it was a bad decision, some of us didn't. It's not cut and dry, right or wrong, it's all opinion. You think it was a good move and that's fine, that's your opinion. I don't think it was a good move, that's my opinion. We can agree to disagree.
Ok we will exclude money from this. Why did Bruce sign with the Whiners? Simple, Mike Martz. Bruce trusts him, and he already knows the offense.
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That doesn't sound like loyalty to me. But newayz, I meant it was good a move for the team (cap wise). Yes it sux losing Bruce. But like i said we tried to keep him. And if your trying, that means something in itself. No, i'm not arguing with you, nor intended to. Besides, we are all Rams fans here (least i hope so). But dude,let's be honest....if my sn was e.x TorryHolt4Life88 and had his avatar (not to mention defending him in a non-related thread), wouldn't it be fair to assume that i may be a little Holt fanatical? Doesn't make it true, but you can't blame someone for thinking so. Also, nobody said that keeping Bruce was a BAD thing. But the reality is the Ram's just can't afford him. Therefore releasing him was the best thing for the franchise in terms of stabilizing our cap situation. It's just not in the team's best interests to keep a guy that age for that amount of money. Now sorry but is that so hard to digest? The question was loyalty, I asked why he signed above all with the WHINERS, you said Mike Martz....that doesn't change the team from being the Niners.
P.S-Who really knows who in a forum? Hell we refer to each other by SN's.....
Like ramsbruce stated, Bruce went to the whiners because of Martz. If Martz had stayed in Detroit or gone somewhere else other than SF, that's where Ike would have gone.
So Bruce shouldn't sign with the Whiners and Martz who he likes, trusts, and already knows the offense only because it's the Whiners? Bruce should say ok the Rams just cut me but I won't sign with the Whiners because the Rams hate them. Sorry, I don't buy that. The Rams did what they had to do, and then Bruce did what he had to do. It's unfortunate that Martz went to the Whiners because it was fairly obvious to me at least that Bruce was going to follow Martz wherever he went if he wasn't a Ram.