View Poll Results: Ideal next Rams Head Coach

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  • Jon Gruden

    12 21.05%
  • Bill Cowher

    26 45.61%
  • Jeff Fisher

    21 36.84%
  • Other Former Head Coach

    2 3.51%
  • Rob Ryan

    10 17.54%
  • Gregg Williams

    0 0%
  • Rob Chudzinski

    3 5.26%
  • Mike Martz

    7 12.28%
  • Other Current Assistant Coach

    4 7.02%
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    In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    There have been threads about which type of coach we would like to be running the Rams next season, who we want, etc. While I like those threads, I thought I would break it down in one of my usual long rant threads.. Rather than being trapped with one option, I will break down former head coach options and current assistant options, and you will be able to vote for the former head coach you would most like, as well as the assistant you would most like. Without further ado, the candidates:

    Former Head Coach Options:

    1. Jon Gruden

    Odds of a Marriage: Slim. 10-2
    Tale of the Tape:
    Career Record of 95-81 with two teams Bucs and Raiders
    5-4 career postseason record (5 appearances in 11 years)
    1x Super Bowl winning coach
    Traded in 2002 by the raiders to the Bucs for two first round picks, two second round picks, and $.
    Bottomline:
    I have been on a Gruden crusade all season, however I'm not 100% sure if he comes out of retirement he'd want to take over this mess. A marriage with a team like the Giants or returning to Philly where it all started for him unfortunately makes more sense.

    2. Bill Cowher

    Odds of a Marriage: Slim. 15-1.
    Tale of the Tape:
    Career Record of 149-90-1 all with Pittsburgh
    12-9 Postseason Record (10 Appearances in 15 seasons)
    Two Super Bowl appearances
    1x Super Bowl Winner
    Bottomline:
    Like Gruden, teams will be ringing his phone off the hook. He will be highly sought after, and is much more likely to go to a team that isn't in disarray. I would love to see the chin in STL, I just don't think it's realistic. He also openly said he doesn't see himself returning this year, and has been heavily linked to the Giants job should Coughlin get fired.

    3. Jeff Fisher

    Odds of a Marriage: High. 3-1.
    Tale of the Tape:
    Career Record of 142-120 all with Tennessee
    5-6 career postseason record (6 appearances in 17 seasons)
    1 super bowl appearance, losing to yours truly so we can forgive the fact he has 0 super bowl rings.
    Bottomline:
    It was reported in October by John Czarnecki that someone in the Rams organization said Kroenke was in contact with Fisher about becoming the next Rams head coach. The marriage makes sense, because while high profile Fisher is the lesser of Gruden and Cowher. I think this could be reminiscent of when Kroenke hired George Karl to become Denver's new HC. In my opinion, hes gonna want someone with exp and Fisher could be the easiest to bag.

    Not going to go past the big three or speculate on Andy Reid because I don't think he gets fired.

    Now onto the assistants. I won't put odds on a marriage for the assistants because they are current assistants and just want a shot at being a head coach and will go anywhere no matter how much of a mess the state of the franchise currently is.

    Current Assistant Options:

    1. Rob Ryan

    A defensive guru with the type of personality that immediately draws the attention of anyone in the room, Ryan could be the perfect assistant to change the culture at Rams park. His brother, Rex, was hired the same year we hired Spags and has taken the Jets to back to back AFC championships. Their father, Buddy, was a successful head coach. Coaching just runs in the Ryan family. One thing to remember, this job could be particularly interesting to Rob, because of there connection to the area. It was reported that this was Rexs desired landing spot before we handed the keys to Spags (whoops). That's what happens when you hire friends Billy. Rob has always gotten the most out of his defenses, and I think he could bring personality and an identity to a team with none.

    2. Gregg Williams

    Tale of the Tape:
    Career coaching record of 17-31.
    Zero playoff appearances in three seasons.
    Bottomline:
    He fits both criteria for those looking for someone who is currently still employed yet has been a head coach at some point. Like Rob he is a defensive guru. He coached the Saints defense to a Super Bowl vs the Colts. He has a knack for having a blitz heavy defense that is big on producing turnovers. I think he would relish the opportunity to become a HC again.

    3. Rob Chudzinski

    A QB specialist Rob is coaching Cam Newton to one of the greatest rookie seasons we will ever see from a QB. He also is known for being the QB coach for Cleveland the year that erratic, inaccurate mess, Derek Anderson had a pro bowl type year and bought Cleveland within one game of the playoffs. He could be just what the doctor ordered for Sam. A HC, with a label as a QB specialist, something tells me Sam would definitely endorse this one and could hopefully become Chudzinskis next great QB... For many years.

    Wild card: Mike Martz

    Tale of the Tape:
    Career Record of 53-32 all with the Rams
    3-4 career postseason record (4 appearances in 6 seasons)
    One super appearance (cheated out of a ring)
    One super bowl ring as OC of the greatest show on turf.
    Bottomline:
    Mad Mike is a name that many fans are throwing around to try and bring back the glory days He has been currently linked to the open head coaching position at Arizona State. I don't see this happening. The Martz era ended to abruptly for him to come back here. He may not have been the best game manager , but looking at the accolades, and the fact we were 2-3 when he was fired... I'm thinking it was a big mistake. I think there's about a zero percent chance he comes back, but figured I'd throw his name in the poll as a wildcard for those Martz fans.

    If you choose other Former HC or other assistant please provide who and discuss. I would love for this to become a running thread and poll until our new HC is crowned as opposed to a billion threads being made between now and then.

    Please vote for 1 assistant and one former HC. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding who you stand behind .

    4 weeks til D-Day for Spagsy.

    Thanks for reading and Go Rams
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    I voted for Jeff Fisher and Mike Martz. I don't want anyone without headcoaching experience. I also don't think Cowher or Gruden would be interested in the job.

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Marty Shottenheimer

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    I voted for Jeff Fisher and Mike Martz. I don't want anyone without headcoaching experience. I also don't think Cowher or Gruden would be interested in the job.
    I voted for Jon Gruden and Rob Ryan btw.
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    I went with Cowher. These players need there butts kicked and he's the guy to do it.

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Mad Mike Martz for me hands down. With our defense playing reasonably well all we need is another 10-14 points a game and Martz is the man that can get that done.
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Love the thread, THOLTFAN. I voted for Jeff Fisher, primarily because I think he would be a more realistic possibility as far as the Rams HC job is concerned. I also voted for Chudzinski because I think his track record with QBs would be a definite help to Sam.

    My only complaint is that you don't have Jim Haslett or even Tony Dungy as choices in your poll. Do you not think much of these two or what....?.

    WHAT SAY YE?

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMarkable View Post
    Love the thread, THOLTFAN. I voted for Jeff Fisher, primarily because I think he would be a more realistic possibility as far as the Rams HC job is concerned. I also voted for Chudzinski because I think his track record with QBs would be a definite help to Sam.

    My only complaint is that you don't have Jim Haslett or even Tony Dungy as choices in your poll. Do you not think much of these two or what....?.

    WHAT SAY YE?
    Thanks a lot.

    In terms of Haslett & Dungy, my bad. Probably should have included Haslett in with the assistants, but thats why i added the other assistant option. Dungy, I dont see returning this season but he is also fair game. Tried to just go for the main guys.

    Thanks for reading.

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Cowher & Martz:

    Dodge Ram(s) 3500 - Camaro LS3. >> Monster Truck - Porsche 911. >> Hummer - Mustang GT500.

    Other than powerful engine performance analogies, I like this thread and will remain interested in seeing ongoing reactions to possible HC changes as they will indeed go proportional to the December results and the availability of coaches for 2012 (yes, you're right RAMarkable, including Dungy [not Haslett]).
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    If Dungy was here and didnt win fans would say he's too nice to the players

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    I went with Gruden and Ryan. I would fully support Jeff Fisher as well.
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Fisher and Martz.

    No to Gruden, don't need that pantomime on the sidelines.

    Cowher won't come here.
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    A few quick thoughts:

    Chucky & the Chin - I agree that odds are slim. You don't lure a big name out of retirement to coach a team that hasn't had a winning season in nearly a decade.
    Fisher - An obvious choice for the experience, and he didn't really get to leave the game on his own terms.
    Ryan - Not a safe choice regardless of pedigree. Swagger counts for something, but is that enough?
    Williams - He was always too conservative as a head coach. He's probably as close to a carbon copy of Spagnuolo style-wise as you're going to find.
    Chudzinski - No, seriously...who?

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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    Fisher and Ryan
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    Re: In depth look at potential HC candidates w/ multi choice poll.

    None of the above. I'm holding out hope for Brian Billick.

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