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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    I would if I could because I do indeed strongly disagree with Haslett, as did Moose Johnston and Tony Siragusa during the game.
    Yep, I recall them saying something to the effect that it appeared that it was Pace's responsibility; however, neither you nor I nor Moose/Goose have any clue what the protection scheme was on that particular play. But Jim Haslett does and he said in no uncertain terms that it was BULGER'S miscue that got him sacked. I believe that the coach has more inside info than just about anyone else, don't you think?

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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMarkable View Post
    Yep, I recall them saying something to the effect that it appeared that it was Pace's responsibility; however, neither you nor I nor Moose/Goose have any clue what the protection scheme was on that particular play. But Jim Haslett does and he said in no uncertain terms that it was BULGER'S miscue that got him sacked. I believe that the coach has more inside info than just about anyone else, don't you think?

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    With all due respect to Haslett, I still disagree with his assessment. Pace didn't even glance outside to see what might be coming. If the protection called for him to disregard any outside responsibility, I guess he gets a pass, but I doubt that was the case. Bulger had his back to the play and had no time to react IMO.

    By the way, what thread quoted Haslett as saying Bulger was responsible, I couldn't find it.
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    For the people that want to keep Bulger. You are the same people that would
    have kept on giving Cordell Stuwert the job in Pitt. 7 years wasted with that
    guy, do you want the same thing here, with the Rams?

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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    A fair assessment of Bulger will hopefully be next year when he hopefully has a good/great offensive line that we built around free agency and the draft this offseason...


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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Afterall you can't make it to the Superbowl unless your a great qb just ask Trent Dilfer,Neil Odonnel,Rex Grossman,Jay Schroeder,Stan Humphries,Rich Gannon,Brad Johnson. Seems to me this is still a team game not a qb game but hey lets keep blaming the qb, why not?
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    With all due respect to Haslett, I still disagree with his assessment. Pace didn't even glance outside to see what might be coming. If the protection called for him to disregard any outside responsibility, I guess he gets a pass, but I doubt that was the case. Bulger had his back to the play and had no time to react IMO.

    By the way, what thread quoted Haslett as saying Bulger was responsible, I couldn't find it.
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by jkramsfan View Post
    Mike it's under Coach Jim Haslett, November 10.
    Thanks jk.

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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Obviously no one here is ever going to change his/her mind about Marc Bulger. Either you believe he'd be earning that big fat contract if we solved our O-Line issues, or you believe that he isn't worth the money under any circumstance.

    I happen to believe the latter.

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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater View Post
    Obviously no one here is ever going to change his/her mind about Marc Bulger. Either you believe he'd be earning that big fat contract if we solved our O-Line issues, or you believe that he isn't worth the money under any circumstance.

    I happen to believe the latter.
    Really? I had no idea...

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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Bulger alone isn't the problem.

    You stick QB in the league on our roster and throw him into our situation and I'd wager a friday-night bar-tab that he doesn't get it done either.

    Our issues are way bigger than Marc Bulger and statements to the contrary are made more in hope than anything else. Hope that a single quick fix will overcome the pain we currently feel set against the reality that our roster hasn't been the most talented in the league for the last 5 years or so.

    Seriously, Bulger isn't the problem.
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Really? I had no idea...
    Keep living young man, and you'll find that you have no idea about most things.
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Pang View Post
    Bulger alone isn't the problem.

    You stick QB in the league on our roster and throw him into our situation and I'd wager a friday-night bar-tab that he doesn't get it done either.

    Our issues are way bigger than Marc Bulger and statements to the contrary are made more in hope than anything else. Hope that a single quick fix will overcome the pain we currently feel set against the reality that our roster hasn't been the most talented in the league for the last 5 years or so.

    Seriously, Bulger isn't the problem.
    I beg to differ. Not all QB's would suck to the same degree that Marc Bulger has, because there are some in the leaugue who are actually better than Marc. I know that may come as a suprise to some on this board, but he is not the most physically gifted or mentally sound QB I've seen.

    There are some who can stand in there and make accurate throws even while being hit far better than Marc. There are some who could escape the pressure far better than Marc. There are some who could command that his o-line protect him far better than Marc. There are some who can read the defense far better than Marc. And there are those that don't get rattled as easily as Marc, thereby affecting the times when he actually does have plenty of time to throw.

    So to say that any QB would suffer the same fate that Bulger has, IMHO, is not completely accurate.
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater View Post
    There are some who could command that his o-line protect him far better than Marc.
    Hard to command a unit to do something it has shown to be incapable of doing.
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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater View Post
    There are some who could command that his o-line protect him far better than Marc.
    That's funny. Just what command would you suggest? At least you're admitting that the line needs to protect Bulger "far better". Maybe Haslett can command the whole team to do better?

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    Re: Ex-Bulger Apologist

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    That's funny. Just what command would you suggest? At least you're admitting that the line needs to protect Bulger "far better". Maybe Haslett can command the whole team to do better?
    Maybe "Close Sesame" would do the trick and close all holes in the line...

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