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    Further 53 man roster analysis

    After thorough and careful analysis, it comes (as always) down to a numbers game. At the end of the day, if we keep a 4th tailback (excluding hedgecock), we cant keep the extra offensive lineman, which means mccollom or fry most likely, or maybe goldberg getting cut or put on the practice squad. For what its worth, barry waller doesnt think mccollum will get cut even if he isnt the starter.

    qb(3)
    wr(6)
    Te (3)
    rb (3)
    fb(1)

    Offensive Line- Pace, Barron, Incognito, Setterstrom, Mccollum, Romberg, Steussie, Terrell/Brown, Goldberg, Fry- thats 10 offensive linemen

    Total on offense 26 if we keep 10 offensive linemen. If we keep rich alexis as the 4th running back, one of the offensive linemen will HAVE to go because i dont see how we can keep 27 offensive players.

    here is why

    Specialists (3) That number is a lock

    Defense (24) I dont see how the number can be any lower than that. Here are my 24 on defense

    DE (4) Little, Hall, Adeynaju, Johnson/Moore
    Dt (4) Carriker, Glover, Wroten, Ryan
    Lb (7) Spoon, Pisa, Chillar, Draft, Alston (all locks), Smith, Culbertson/McIgargle/Brooks
    s (4) Chavous, OJ, Johnson, Carter
    DB (5) Hill, Bartell, Wade, Walls, Brown

    I cant see us carrying 23 on defense by not keeping a 4th defensive end, even though wroten could play outside on passing downs. I also cant see us carrying only 6 linebackers.

    Thus, I think we are going to carry 24 on defense, 3 specialists and 26 on offense, meaning either a 4th running back or an extra offensive lineman wont make the team.

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    I don't think a 4TH tailback is necessary at all, keep the lineman. Any new word on Simeon Rice?

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by General Counsel View Post
    After thorough and careful analysis, it comes (as always) down to a numbers game. At the end of the day, if we keep a 4th tailback (excluding Hedgecock), we can't keep the extra offensive lineman, which means McCollum or Fry most likely, or maybe Goldberg getting cut or put on the practice squad. For what it's worth, Barry Waller doesn't think McCollum will get cut even if he isn't the starter.

    QB (3)
    WR (6)
    TE (3)
    RB (3)
    FB (1)

    Offensive Line- Pace, Barron, Incognito, Setterstrom, Mccollum, Romberg, Steussie, Terrell/Brown, Goldberg, Fry- thats 10 offensive linemen

    Total on offense 26 if we keep 10 offensive linemen. If we keep Rich Alexis as the 4th running back, one of the offensive linemen will HAVE to go because I don't see how we can keep 27 offensive players.

    Here is why

    Specialists (3). That number is a lock

    Defense (24). I don't see how the number can be any lower than that. Here are my 24 on defense

    DE (4) Little, Hall, Adeynaju, Johnson/Moore
    Dt (4) Carriker, Glover, Wroten, Ryan
    LB (7) Spoon, Pisa, Chillar, Draft, Alston (all locks), Smith, Culbertson/McGarigle/Brooks
    S (4) Chavous, OJ, Johnson, Carter
    DB (5) Hill, Bartell, Wade, Walls, Brown

    I can't see us carrying 23 on defense by not keeping a 4th defensive end, even though Wroten could play outside on passing downs. I also can't see us carrying only 6 linebackers.

    Thus, I think we are going to carry 24 on defense, 3 specialists and 26 on offense, meaning either a 4th running back or an extra offensive lineman won't make the team.

    Ramming speed to all

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    Looks like you're pretty close to how the roster will be under the 53 man limit.

    My curiosity for now is whether Milford Brown will be part of the OL this year. He's got the size (6-5 330) and has six years experience under his belt. Goldberg and Terrell are right there for the spot, possibly Setterstrom too.

    This competition between potential guards must be a fierce one during practice sessions and Vs. the Chiefs game!

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Rams roster, Monday, Sept. 3, a.m. ...My wish list. :r

    OFFENSE

    QB (2): Bulger, Frerrote.
    WR (6): Bennett, Bruce, Holt, Hall, Hagans, Looker.
    TE (3): McMichael, Klopfenstein, Walker.
    RB(3): Jackson, Leonard, Pittman.
    FB (1): Hedgecock.

    OL (10): Barron, Brown, Goldberg, Incognito, McCollum, Pace, Romberg, Setterstrom, Terrell. ...9 plus added man by Tuesday.

    Total on offense 25


    SPECIALISTS (2): [Looker] Massey, Wilkins.


    DEFENSE

    DE (5): Adeyanju, Hall, Little, Johnson, Moore.
    DT (4): Carriker, Glover, Ryan, Wroten.
    LB (7): Chillar, Culberson, Draft, McGarigle, Smith, Tinosisamoa, Witherspoon.
    CB (6): Bartell, Brown, Hill, Wade, Walls. ...Five plus added man by Tuesday.
    S (4): Atogwe, Carter, Chavous, Johnson.

    Total on defense 26


    Wait, I forgot: does Fahkir Brown count already as part of the 53 roster or not?


    Also, not totally sure how we're ["we"] going to spread the LBs.
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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Did I miss Travis Minor being cut? Because if he's still on the team, I would think that makes Pittman the #4 RB, not third.

    Doh! ...Back to the drawing board. :x

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Real Ram I believe Brown does count as being on the roster even though he is suspended for the 1st 4 games, meaning in essence that the Rams will play the 1st month of the season with a 52 man roster..

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by 81~BIG-GAME View Post
    RealRam I believe Brown does count as being on the roster even though he is suspended for the 1st 4 games, meaning in essence that the Rams will play the 1st month of the season with a 52 man roster.
    Thanks 81BG!


    AAAARGH! I just saw Donnie Jones, our punter, in Maui's post under the Pitman thread! Forgot about our punter!!! // ...Well, have adjusted the roster at 25 men on offense.


    :x Ever tough adding / substracting this time of the year!

    Rams roster, Monday, Sept. 3, p.m. ...My wish list. :r

    OFFENSE

    QB (2): Bulger, Frerrote.
    WR (6): Bennett, Bruce, Holt, Hall, Hagans, Looker.
    TE (3): Klopfenstein, McMichael, Walker.
    RB(4): Jackson, Leonard, Minor, Pittman.
    FB (1): Hedgecock.

    OL (9): Barron, Brown, Goldberg, Incognito, McCollum, Pace, Romberg, Setterstrom, Terrell.

    Total on offense 25


    SPECIALISTS (3): [Looker] Jones, Massey, Wilkins.


    DEFENSE

    DE (5): Adeyanju, Hall, Johnson, Little, Moore.
    DT (4): Carriker, Glover, Ryan, Wroten.
    LB (7): Chillar, Culberson, Draft, McGarigle, Smith, Tinosisamoa, Witherspoon.
    CB (5): Bartell, Brown, Hill, Wade, Walls.
    S (4): Atogwe, Carter, Chavous, Johnson.

    Total on defense 25
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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by 81~BIG-GAME View Post
    Real Ram I believe Brown does count as being on the roster even though he is suspended for the 1st 4 games, meaning in essence that the Rams will play the 1st month of the season with a 52 man roster..
    He doesn't count while he is serving out his suspension ...

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    Rams Trim Roster to 53
    Saturday, September 1, 2007

    The St. Louis Rams waived the following players today:

    LB John Alston.
    QB Brock Berlin.
    C Dustin Fry.
    DT Keith Jackson.
    S Andre Kirkland.
    T Jeremy Parquet.
    WR Derek Stanley
    WR Dominique Thompson.
    CB Darius Vinnett.

    The Rams also placed tackle Todd Steussie on reserve/injured and traded quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to the Cincinnati Bengals for a draft choice. Steussie is out for the 2007 season.

    The Rams now are at the NFLís 53-man roster limit and are in the process of forming a practice squad of up to eight players. Cornerback Fahkir Brown does not count on the roster as he serves a four-game suspension.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/63237/

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Today is Labor Day Holiday in the U.S. Many companies, many people take the day off.

    Let's rest assured NFL coaches are not relaxing easy munching on pop corn, sipping lemonade and watching TV!

    Maui, I just read the other thread (on Pitman) where you mentioned Fahkir Brown does NOT count against the current roster. If that's the case, we have room for another player. An OL???

    :x I better relax, snack, and watch TV. I'll let our coaches figure it out.

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiRam View Post
    He doesn't count while he is serving out his suspension ...

    Cornerback Fahkir Brown does not count on the roster as he serves a four-game suspension.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/63237/

    Thanks Maui.

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Yeah I was wrong Real Ram, Brown doesn't count towards the roster during his suspension. So much for the 'experts', I'm blaming them..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealRam View Post
    Thanks 81BG!


    AAAARGH! I just saw Donnie Jones, our punter, in Maui's post under the Pitman thread! Forgot about our punter!!! // ...Well, have adjusted the roster at 25 men on offense.


    :x Ever tough adding / substracting this time of the year!

    Rams roster, Monday, Sept. 3, p.m. ...My wish list. :r

    OFFENSE

    QB (2): Bulger, Frerrote.
    WR (6): Bennett, Bruce, Holt, Hall, Hagans, Looker.
    TE (3): McMichael, Klopfenstein, Walker.
    RB(4): Jackson, Leonard, Minor, Pittman.
    FB (1): Hedgecock.

    OL (9): Barron, Brown, Goldberg, Incognito, McCollum, Pace, Romberg, Setterstrom, Terrell.

    Total on offense 25


    SPECIALISTS (3): [Looker] Jones, Massey, Wilkins.


    DEFENSE

    DE (5): Adeyanju, Hall, Little, Johnson, Moore.
    DT (4): Carriker, Glover, Ryan, Wroten.
    LB (7): Chillar, Culberson, Draft, McGarigle, Smith, Tinosisamoa, Witherspoon.
    CB (5): Bartell, Brown, Hill, Wade, Walls.
    S (4): Atogwe, Carter, Chavous, Johnson.

    Total on defense 25

    You forgot about TE Byrd
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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by RealRam View Post
    Thanks 81BG!


    AAAARGH! I just saw Donnie Jones, our punter, in Maui's post under the Pitman thread! Forgot about our punter!!! // ...Well, have adjusted the roster at 25 men on offense.


    :x Ever tough adding / substracting this time of the year!

    Rams roster, Monday, Sept. 3, p.m. ...My wish list. :r

    OFFENSE

    QB (2): Bulger, Frerrote.
    WR (6): Bennett, Bruce, Holt, Hall, Hagans, Looker.
    TE (3): McMichael, Klopfenstein, Walker.
    RB(4): Jackson, Leonard, Minor, Pittman.
    FB (1): Hedgecock.

    OL (9): Barron, Brown, Goldberg, Incognito, McCollum, Pace, Romberg, Setterstrom, Terrell.

    Total on offense 25


    SPECIALISTS (3): [Looker] Jones, Massey, Wilkins.


    DEFENSE

    DE (5): Adeyanju, Hall, Little, Johnson, Moore.
    DT (4): Carriker, Glover, Ryan, Wroten.
    LB (7): Chillar, Culberson, Draft, McGarigle, Smith, Tinosisamoa, Witherspoon.
    CB (5): Bartell, Brown, Hill, Wade, Walls.
    S (4): Atogwe, Carter, Chavous, Johnson.

    Total on defense 25
    Is that how you think the Depth Charts should look too?

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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Onslaught11 View Post
    You forgot about TE Byrd
    No, this time I did not forget anyone. It's my 'wish list'.

    Milan, no, it does not reflect depth charts. Names were placed in alphabetical order.
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    Re: Further 53 man roster analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by RealRam View Post
    No, this time I did not forget anyone. It's my 'wish list'.

    Milan, no, it does not reflect depth charts. Names were placed in alphabetical order.
    Oh sorry, I was confused because some weren't in Alphabetical order (McMichael before Klopfeinstein, etc...)

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