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    Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    By Daniel Kaplan
    updated 7:00 p.m. CT, Sun., Sept. 7, 2008

    In another sign the National Football League is gearing up for a protracted battle with the players union, the league late last month moved long-standing labor committee member John Shaw of the St. Louis Rams off the influential group.

    Because of uncertainty swirling around ownership of the Rams, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell did not want to have to replace Shaw in the next few years if the club were sold, a well-placed source said. Making a change at that time would throw a new member into the middle of what could be an intense labor dispute.

    Shaw’s place was taken by Bill Ford Jr., owner of the Detroit Lions and executive chairman of Ford Motor Co. At least two owners from each revenue quartile are represented on the committee, so Shaw could be replaced only by someone from a team with similar revenue — in this case, the Lions.

    The move occurred before the Aug. 20 death of NFL Players Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw, which makes reaching a new deal even tougher. The NFL and Shaw declined to comment.

    “The league obviously has the right to choose its own representatives in bargaining, but John [Shaw], when he was involved, was always helpful in the process,” said Richard Berthelsen, interim executive director of the D.C.-based players association. “I am sure his voice will be heard, whether he is on their committee or not.”

    Shaw is president of the Rams and was a confidant of Georgia Frontiere, the Rams owner who died in January. Her son and daughter, Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez, say they plan to keep the team unless someone offers them top money.

    However, the Rams hired sports investment bank Moag & Co. this summer. Rosenbloom, according to published reports, said he hired Moag merely to field inquiries from interested suitors.

    Apparently, Goodell is convinced enough that a sale might occur because he began talking with Shaw about moving him off the committee in early August, the source said.

    Goodell also recently added a 10th member to the labor committee, formally known as the management council executive committee: new Green Bay Packers President Mark Murphy.

    The NFL opted out of the current collective-bargaining agreement in May, shaving the final two years off the deal. That makes next season the last with a salary cap and 2010 the final year of the deal. The league contends that the players won too much money in the 2006 renewal of the agreement. Players currently receive about 60 percent of the league’s revenue.

    Upshaw, in his rejections of the owners’ argument, warned that if the league went into an uncapped year, the players would never agree to another cap.

    Goodell has made several other moves on key committees.

    He named Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder co-chairman of the digital media committee. Seattle Seahawks Chairman Paul Allen, previously the committee’s lone chairman, is now co-chairman. New England Patriots President Jonathan Kraft was added to the business ventures committee. Also new to that committee is Stephen Jones, Dallas Cowboys executive vice president, who replaces his father, owner Jerry Jones.


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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    How can someone be "convinced" that something "might" happen? Does that mean that its "not impossible"?

    Sounds like a lot of nothing to me.

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Shaw has been backing away from operations for some time and by his own admission, is spending most of his time working on the estate related issues. This is not a shock at all and makes good sense for the league.

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    I read that and honestly didn't really comprehend what happened. It seemed like a lot of nothing went on. Are they trying to imply that the team might be sold? I'm just not quite sure what one thing had to do with the other. Can anyone help me out here?


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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by Rampage80 View Post
    Please Move them back to Los angeles where they belong We are going to have a state of the art new stadium The los angeles rams need to come home!!!
    But Cleveland already has the Browns.
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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    My viewpoint is that since Shaw can't even manage the Rams effectively(or else we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place), what makes anyone think he should be allowed to do anything for the league as a whole? From the article it seems he was pretty worthless anyway. Bill Ford doesn't really strike me as much better, but maybe he'll at least help during those meetings as opposed to making little paper footballs like I imagine Shaw doing.

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    But Cleveland already has the Browns.
    Nice......

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Hey we need to respect Shaw for what he did for the organization and the league in the past. But i agree a change is in order to better the league and the Rams. He has been in place for to long. And a change of the guard would be good for the Rams.
    They will not move to LA because they own the St Louis market. LA is a competitive town for entertainment. They suffered under the shadow of the other sports teams.
    Let the Chargers get the new stadium. They are as Southern Cal as it gets for now.

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by THEFIELDGOAL View Post
    Hey we need to respect Shaw for what he did for the organization and the league in the past. But i agree a change is in order to better the league and the Rams. He has been in place for to long. And a change of the guard would be good for the Rams.
    They will not move to LA because they own the St Louis market. LA is a competitive town for entertainment. They suffered under the shadow of the other sports teams.
    Let the Chargers get the new stadium. They are as Southern Cal as it gets for now.

    You have to look between the Lines, if he's saying he's convinced a sale is going to happen what he's saying is there's also going to be a market change. Being that this is a very delicate matter, Goddell can't come out and say hey the Rams are in the process of being sold and they're moving

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    But Cleveland already has the Browns.
    49 years in LA seems to outweigh 8 years in Cleveland. The Rams are part of the sports landscape of LA and the west coast. They were the first major sports franchise in LA and will possibly always be considered a part of LA. I'm not saying they should leave or be taken away from St. Louis but it's very incorrect to imply they belong to Cleveland more than LA. Unless of course you think Brett Favre's going into the HOF as a Falcon.

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    But Cleveland already has the Browns.
    Ya know that is only witty if you edit "Cleveland" over Los Angeles" in his quote. Without that it just looks like you can't read.

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by skelley View Post
    Ya know that is only witty if you edit "Cleveland" over Los Angeles" in his quote. Without that it just looks like you can't read.
    Um, no.......the original home of the Rams was Cleveland. That's kind of the point.
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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by moklerman View Post
    it's very incorrect to imply they belong to Cleveland more than LA.
    Why not? They are, as we speak, based in St. Louis with no proposition of moving back to LA, yet some imply (or in this case explicitly state) the Rams home is LA.
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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Um, no.......the original home of the Rams was Cleveland. That's kind of the point.
    "Please Move them back to Los angeles where they belong We are going to have a state of the art new stadium The los angeles rams need to come home!!!"

    um, no........that simply doesn't fit from this quote. Nice try, but you failed.

    Why do you seem so butt hurt towards California fans?

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    Re: Goodell's convinced Rams sale might occur

    Quote Originally Posted by skelley View Post
    "Please Move them back to Los angeles where they belong We are going to have a state of the art new stadium The los angeles rams need to come home!!!"

    um, no........that simply doesn't fit from this quote. Nice try, but you failed.

    Why do you seem so butt hurt towards California fans?
    skelly, my friend......it was never intended to fit the quote. The quote implies the true "home" of the Rams and where they "belong" is LA. The subtle (maybe too subtle for some) point is that the Rams actually came from Cleveland. And just as Cleveland holds no superiority or claim to the Rams over LA, LA holds no such superiority or claim over St. Louis.

    And skelley nobody is more complimentary of the Rams fans in LA than me. I've said over and over again that to watch a team leave town, and still follow them from half a nation away takes a level of dedication far from common among NFL fans.

    Rams fans in LA (or wherever) that put the Rams above geography have no equal.

    So no, I'm not "butt hurt" (however I am curious as to the etymology of that phrase) towards fans in California. Quite the opposite for the vast majority.

    However, when fans start taking shots, either directly or indirectly, at St. Louis, surely you can see where it would, as you say.....strike a nerve.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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