Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Nick's Avatar
    Nick is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Morgantown, WV
    Age
    31
    Posts
    19,290
    Rep Power
    153

    Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation
    12:41 AM CDT on Thursday, August 26, 2010
    Column by RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News |

    ST. LOUIS – The St. Louis Rams expect Sam Bradford to achieve the heights of Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning.

    The Rams wouldn't have selected the former Oklahoma Heisman Trophy winner with the first overall pick of the 2010 NFL draft and guaranteed him $50 million if they didn't harbor that expectation.

    Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman and Manning also were the first overall selections of drafts and also were paid millions of dollars to perform magic with their right arms. But before Bradford can follow in their footsteps to the heights of his profession, he must trudge in their footsteps through the depths.

    The exhilaration of being the first overall pick of a draft quickly gives way to the reality – and gravity – of the situation. A very bad football team has drafted you. And that first year is guaranteed to be a struggle.

    There have been 17 quarterbacks selected first overall since the merger of the AFL and NFL drafts in 1967, and not one won more starts than he lost as a rookie.

    Bradshaw was drafted by a 1-13 Pittsburgh team in 1970 He went 3-5 as a starter with six touchdowns and 24 interceptions. Elway was drafted by an 0-8-1 Baltimore team but refused to play for the Colts and eventually was traded to the Denver Broncos. He was benched twice in his rookie season, when he threw twice as many interceptions (14) as touchdowns (7)

    Aikman was drafted by a 3-13 Dallas team and didn't win a game in his rookie season. He went 0-11 and also threw twice as many interceptions (18) as touchdowns (9). Manning was drafted by a 3-13 Indianapolis team and led the NFL with 28 interceptions as a rookie.

    First overall picks Vinny Testaverde (1987), Carson Palmer (2003) and JaMarcus Russell (2007) joined Aikman with zero victories as a rookie. Matthew Stafford (2009) joined Bradshaw and Manning with a 20-interception debut season.

    David Carr (2002) was sacked an NFL-record 76 times as a rookie, and Alex Smith (2005) threw 11 interceptions and fumbled 11 times in his seven rookie starts.

    Manning lost 13 games as a rookie and Tim Couch (1999) and Carr 12 apiece. Eli Manning (2004) completed only 48.2 percent of his passes as a rookie, Elway 47.4 percent, Steve Bartkowski (1975) 45.1 percent and Michael Vick (2001) 44.2 percent.

    So college greatness does not translate into overnight NFL success for quarterbacks selected first overall in drafts. Bradford has already conferred with Aikman and Manning about surviving that first season.

    "They've told me it's a process," Bradford said. "They both told me you're going to take your fair share of bumps and bruises along the way, mentally and physically.

    "But you just have to try to get better every week and understand that it is a process. You can't be overly hard on yourself. You need to expect to play well but then when you don't you can't let that stay with you. You have to bounce back the next week and have just as much confidence as you did the week before."

    Bradford was drafted by a 1-15 St. Louis team that has a Pro Bowl runner in Steven Jackson. But the Rams essentially have two rookie offensive tackles in Rodger Saffold and Jason Smith, plus a tight end (Billy Bajema) with only 15 career catches. Bradford's top three wideouts in St. Louis have a combined 39 career starts and fewer than 200 receptions.

    Aikman, Bradshaw and Manning all emerged as franchise quarterbacks when their teams were able to put better players around them. A tight end and lead wide receiver are on the future wish list of the Rams. The goal in 2010 is to get Bradford through his rookie season in one piece.

    If the Rams can accomplish that, they love the future Bradford gives them.

    "What's there not to like?" Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "Everyone knows he's a big, tall, strapping guy who has a real strong arm and can throw the ball and is very accurate. But I probably like his intangibles more than anything else.

    "He's an intense competitor. No matter what he does – if you give him a pingpong paddle, a tennis racket or a golf club – he'll be good at it. He's one of those guys who just competes and is good at everything he does. He's a natural in a lot of things."

    The Rams' greatest hope is that he's a natural winner. But don't expect that winning to start until at least 2011.

    ClanRam ModCast: Episode Two
    Rams Discussion Right at Your Fingertips!



  2. #2
    HUbison's Avatar
    HUbison is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Kentucky
    Age
    40
    Posts
    13,530
    Rep Power
    144

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    There have been 17 quarterbacks selected first overall since the merger of the AFL and NFL drafts in 1967, and not one won more starts than he lost as a rookie.
    For the "Bradford has 3.7 seconds into his first game to throw a touchdown or I will call him a bust" crowd, please let the quoted statement sink in.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

  3. #3
    txramsfan's Avatar
    txramsfan is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Poplar Bluff, MO
    Age
    50
    Posts
    7,266
    Rep Power
    65

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    I like Rick Gosselin but this article is about as insightful as someone telling me Erin Edwards is a hottie.

  4. #4
    HUbison's Avatar
    HUbison is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Kentucky
    Age
    40
    Posts
    13,530
    Rep Power
    144

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    I like Rick Gosselin but this article is about as insightful as someone telling me Erin Edwards is a hottie.
    Do you mean Erin Andrews?
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

  5. #5
    txramsfan's Avatar
    txramsfan is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Poplar Bluff, MO
    Age
    50
    Posts
    7,266
    Rep Power
    65

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    See I get so excited about her I can't even spell her name right...lol

  6. #6
    makersncoke's Avatar
    makersncoke is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    mo
    Age
    46
    Posts
    658
    Rep Power
    20

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    See I get so excited about her I can't even spell her name right...lol
    Happens to the best of us.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  7. #7
    r8rh8rmike's Avatar
    r8rh8rmike is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    29 Palms, Ca.
    Age
    55
    Posts
    11,216
    Rep Power
    127

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan View Post
    I like Rick Gosselin but this article is about as insightful as someone telling me Erin Edwards is a hottie.
    You'd think most people would have your attitude here Tx, but as HUb pointed out, there are many who expect immediate success from Bradford for one reason or another, and odds are it's not going to happen. The article is a good reality check IMO.

    As for Bradford, he probably is in for a tough rookie initiation, but what's important is how he handles it. From everything I've seen so far, he's going to develop just fine.

  8. #8
    Keenum's Avatar
    Keenum is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Alabama
    Age
    25
    Posts
    2,865
    Rep Power
    27

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    I would say Bradford did just fine in his initiation

  9. #9
    marcus1111 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    virginia
    Posts
    17
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    'First overall picks Vinny Testaverde (1987), Carson Palmer (2003) and JaMarcus Russell (2007) joined Aikman with zero victories as a rookie. Matthew Stafford (2009) joined Bradshaw and Manning with a 20-interception debut season.'

    this guy doesn't do his research... I believe that as a rookie carson palmer did not start a game and basically maybe played several plays ..this is a fact and received much criticism but the coaches wanted him to learn the system etc before he played many minutes... and they were correct... believe the next year he was one of the top qbs.

  10. #10
    BonnieBengal is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    5
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus1111 View Post
    'First overall picks Vinny Testaverde (1987), Carson Palmer (2003) and JaMarcus Russell (2007) joined Aikman with zero victories as a rookie. Matthew Stafford (2009) joined Bradshaw and Manning with a 20-interception debut season.'

    this guy doesn't do his research... I believe that as a rookie carson palmer did not start a game and basically maybe played several plays ..this is a fact and received much criticism but the coaches wanted him to learn the system etc before he played many minutes... and they were correct... believe the next year he was one of the top qbs.
    Yeah it's only technically correct. As you say, Carson didn't start any games his rookie year. I'm not sure he even took a snap. So the whole premise of the article is kind of flawed. You can make statistics say pretty much anything you want if you don't tell the true story behind them.

  11. #11
    Nick's Avatar
    Nick is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Morgantown, WV
    Age
    31
    Posts
    19,290
    Rep Power
    153

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus1111 View Post
    this guy doesn't do his research... I believe that as a rookie carson palmer did not start a game
    And therefore had zero victories as a rookie, right?
    ClanRam ModCast: Episode Two
    Rams Discussion Right at Your Fingertips!



  12. #12
    Keenum's Avatar
    Keenum is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Alabama
    Age
    25
    Posts
    2,865
    Rep Power
    27

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    And therefore had zero victories as a rookie, right?
    And also undefeated

  13. #13
    AlphaRam is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    a
    Posts
    2,521
    Rep Power
    74

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Despite the article, Sam did pretty good. NE kept in their starters ino the 4th quarter. When is the last time we see that good of an effort from a Rams QB against a first team of an opponent?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

  14. #14
    berg8309's Avatar
    berg8309 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    New Orleans
    Posts
    1,896
    Rep Power
    42

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    As it turns out, the Pats were in for a rough rookie initiation

  15. #15
    rxb97 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    okla
    Posts
    25
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Gosselin: Former Sooner Sam Bradford could be in for a rough rookie initiation

    Never ever listen to a texan when they speak of a Sooner, their may be a underlyin agenda

Similar Threads

  1. Rams’ Bradford prepares for first big test
    By RockinRam in forum RAM TALK
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: -08-14-2010, 12:21 PM
  2. Bradford already dazzling in camp ,,
    By MauiRam in forum RAM TALK
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: -08-07-2010, 09:05 PM
  3. Replies: 10
    Last Post: -06-18-2010, 12:21 AM
  4. Replies: 24
    Last Post: -04-19-2010, 08:18 PM
  5. Salary Cap Request
    By HUbison in forum RAM TALK
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: -12-31-2004, 02:48 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •