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HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

The Draft starts with a trade to Dallas of our first pick for their two 1st's, & their 3rd. Will they do it? WHAT DO I CARE?!?!? IT'S OCTOBER AND I'M DEPRESSED ENOUGH TO DO A MOCK!!!

So, with that in place......

1st (#8) - Chris Long, DE, Virginia - High character, high motor, physical mix of run stopping and pass rushing. Physically somewhere between Carriker and Wistrom and an unmatched pedigree. Leader on and off the field.

1st (#29) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas - Stopwatches won't melt around this guy, but great route runner, solid hands, and excellent size (6'5", 220). The wrist injury is an obvious concern

2nd (#33) - Tony Hills, OT, Texas - Quality tackle in a program with good line history. Could be up and running quickly should Pace go down again, or Barron continue to crumble

3rd (#65) - Jon Goff, ILB, Vandy - Not the monster sized MIKE that fans are screaming for, but he's a playmaker, who outplays his size (6'1", 240)

3rd (#92) - Josh Barrett, SS, Arizona - Big, physical safety with better ball-hawking skills than to be expected from a 230 lb. DB
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

Wow! Me likey this draft. :-)
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

Hahahahha, love the subject line.

For THe draft, alhough I see those positions as needs. I think we have been hit in the face by our volitile lack of depth at OL... I think that HAS to be addresses in Rd 1.
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

Not sure we need to address o line in round 1 but we sure as heck need to hit it hard in rounds 3 and 4, maybe even round 2
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

Whatever they do I just hope they can make up their minds fairly quick because the NFL just shortened the first round to 10 minutes per team, and 7 minutes for the second round. The first day will also be only two rounds now instead of the usual three.

This should get teams hopping on draft day.
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

If Scott is still the coach the Rams will probably draft a TE with the first pick and then trade the second for some has been on either the Vikes or Fins.
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

I dont think chris long will be around at #8, but i would certainly like to have him.

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ps cowboys will select mcfaddin with our pick
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

NO FRICKEN WAY BISON , i was just going over some of the college players , and i loved CHRIS LONG in the first round , he is exactly what this team needs , this would be the foundation of a supperior d-line that i said we needed a few day's ago in the mold of a YOUNGBLOOD - DRYER - OLSEN, kind of line . i would love this kid , put him in there with CARRKER - RYANS - WROTEN - ADEYANJU , and trade off LITTLE to the patriots or something and watch the fireworks . we could grab WR - OT - S , in the next few rounds and this would be something else . just in time for COWHER'S first draft .
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

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I dont think chris long will be around at #8, but i would certainly like to have him.

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ps cowboys will select mcfaddin with our pick
Maybe so, in which case, we just skip the trade and take him with our original pick. Just as I started my Carriker campaign at this time last year, I believe I'm ready to open up the "Chris Long in '08" bandwagon.

ps I think you're right about the 'boys and McFadden. Pretty much the only reason I'd see them making the trade.
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

Very nice work, HUb. Never too early for me to start talking about the draft, so I don't mind one bit.

Onto the picks...


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1st (#8) - Chris Long, DE, Virginia - High character, high motor, physical mix of run stopping and pass rushing. Physically somewhere between Carriker and Wistrom and an unmatched pedigree. Leader on and off the field.
Works for me. I like what Long brings to the table in terms of being a well rounded end who can do it all - he's tough against the run but is still capable of getting to the passer. That kind of player may be a better fit on this line than a more one-dimensional speed rusher in the mold of a Leonard Little.

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1st (#29) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas - Stopwatches won't melt around this guy, but great route runner, solid hands, and excellent size (6'5", 220). The wrist injury is an obvious concern
As you said, the wrist injury is a concern. It's all going to depend on how well he looks after surgery. I think other late first round receivers to consider include Adarius Bowman (Oklahoma State) and Harry Douglas (Louisville). I would say Andre Caldwell but Florida WRs in the pros make me nervous.

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2nd (#33) - Tony Hills, OT, Texas - Quality tackle in a program with good line history. Could be up and running quickly should Pace go down again, or Barron continue to crumble
Hills is a former tight end, which means he has the agility you want at the blindside tackle position. He also has the long arms teams crave as well. But he's not as consistent as you'd like a senior starter to be, and I've read complaints about his quickness off the snap. That said, I think he's a solid choice for a second round OT. I also like Chris Williams (Vanderbilt) as a second round possibility.

Goff and Barrett are intriguing picks, though the latter's history of injuries worries me somewhat.
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Maybe so, in which case, we just skip the trade and take him with our original pick. Just as I started my Carriker campaign at this time last year, I believe I'm ready to open up the "Chris Long in '08" bandwagon.

ps I think you're right about the 'boys and McFadden. Pretty much the only reason I'd see them making the trade.
No no no no no! You don't credit for this one. I've been campaigning for Long pretty much ever since I joined the Clan. Back when the rumors of Carriker training with Howie came out I was the one to identify Chris being a senior at UVA and that I hoped we teamed them together in this next draft.

That said, CHRIS LONG IN '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: HUb's 1st Mock Draft.........well, what the flip else are we gonna talk about?

Well, O.K., I will admit I don't know much about Howie's kid. Could somebody post some of his measurements or etc.? Also, does he project as a 4-3 or a 3-4 type DE or possibly both? Thanx for the info.

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Chris Long
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DE (UVA plays a 3-4, though I'm not sure if it's a one gap or two gap system)
Height: 6-4
Weight: 284

OF NOTE
• Named to the Lott Trophy’s preseason watch list
• Named to the Playboy 2007 preseason All-American team
• Candidate for the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, Outland Trophy, Chuck Bednarik Award, Lombardi Award and Ted Hendricks Award

CAREER HIGHLIGHTS
• Started the last 24 games for Virginia
• Serving as a captain for the second straight season
• Second-team All-Atlantic Coast Conference in 2006
• Led UVa in 2006 with 12 tackles for loss and 21 quarterback pressures

ADDITIONAL UVa NOTES
2006–
Had a tremendous campaign ... team captain ... fourth on the team with 57 tackles despite being double-teamed on virtually every play ... finished fourth among ACC defensive linemen with 4.8 tackles per game ... finished the year with four sacks ... helped UVa finish 17th in overall defense, allowing just 289.5 yards per game, the lowest by a Cavalier defense since 1979 ... had season-high three TFL at East Carolina ... had 10 tackles vs. Western Michigan and nine vs. East Carolina ... received three awards at the team’s annual awards banquet—Ned McDonald Award as UVa’s top defensive player, the Colonel F.C. McCue Award as team’s outstanding interior lineman and the Joe Palumbo Award honoring UVa player for self-sacrifice, dedication and enthusiasm ... first-team all-state by the Virginia Sports Information Directors and the Roanoke Times ... finalist for the Dudley Award, presented to top player in the state of Virginia ... lettered for the third time. 2005–Had a very productive season in his first year as a starter ... started every game ... got better by being matched up against All-American D’Brickashaw Ferguson during training camp and practice ... second among the team’s defensive linemen in tackling with an average of 3.8 tpg ... made 10 tackles for loss, nearly a quarter of his tackles ... had at least four tackles on six occasions ... 26 quarterback hurries were by far the most on the team ... shared the team lead with Marcus Hamilton with seven pass break ups ... made seven tackles in his first start against Western Michigan with three coming in the backfield ... no UVa defensive lineman has had more than seven tackles in his first start since 1987 ... three tackles, a pass break up and five pressures vs. Syracuse ... four tackles, including two for loss, against Duke ... six tackles, two for loss and a sack, against North Carolina ... his only tackle in the win over Temple was a sack ... had an outstanding game in a big win over Georgia Tech ... finished with three tackles and made life difficult for quarterback Reggie Ball with 10 quarterback pressures ... five tackles against Virginia Tech ... was dominating, particularly in the second half, in the Music City Bowl win over Minnesota ... made a career-high nine tackles, including one in the backfield ... lettered. 2004—Promising lineman who provided valuable depth along the defensive line ... played in six games overall ... saw limited action in the first three games before missing five games in the middle of the season due to illness ... saw action in the nickel package upon his return in November ... five tackles, but two were for loss ... had one sack ... made his first career tackle in the North Carolina game ... had another the next week vs. Akron before being sidelined for five games ... recorded his first tackle for loss in his return game against Miami ... made two tackles, including his first sack, in a road win over Georgia Tech ... lettered.

HIGH SCHOOL AND PERSONAL
Star on both the offensive and defensive lines at state champion St. Anne’s-Belfield School, where he was coached by John Blake ... had his jersey retired ... SuperPrep All-American ... PrepStar All-American ... No. 74 on Tom Lemming’s list of the top recruits in the nation ... 4-star player by Rivals.com and 3-stars by TheInsiders.com ... No. 6 Strongside Defensive End in the nation according to Rivals.com ... ranked as No. 8 defensive end by Tom Lemming and No. 11 by Collegefootballnews.com ... the No. 20 defensive tackle by TheInsiders.com ... No. 26 on SuperPrep’s list of the top defensive linemen in the country ... No. 19 player on TheInsiders.com’s Atlantic Hot 100 list and 24th on the Atlantic East Amazing 80 by Rivals.com ... honorable mention All-South by the Orlando Sentinel ... 2003 Gatorade Player of the Year in Virginia ... rated as the second-best player in Virginia by the Charlottesville Daily Progress “Gold List,” No. 3 by the Roanoke Times and No. 4 by SuperPrep and Rivals.com ... three-time first-team all-state selection on both offense and defense ... Central Virginia Defensive Player of the Year by the Daily Progress as a senior ... three-time first-team All-Central Virginia defensive lineman by the Charlottesville Daily Progress ... earned first-team All-Central Virginia honors his senior season as an offensive lineman as well ... conference Defensive Player of the Year his final two seasons ... was in on 91 tackles, including 44 solo tackles, as a senior to help lead his team to an undefeated season and the state championship ... had 23 tackles for loss and 15 sacks that season ... recorded 72 pancake blocks on offense ... Student Sports Junior All-American in 2002 ... had 85 tackles as a junior with 12 sacks and more than 20 tackles for loss ... three-time first-team All-Conference ... finished his career with 43 sacks and 66 tackles for loss ... also played basketball, lacrosse, and baseball during his high school career ... won the 2003 YMCA Slam Dunk Contest for high school students ... full name is Christopher Howard Long ... born 3-28-85 in Santa Monica, Calif. ... son of Diane and Howie Long ... has two younger brothers, Kyle and Howie ... father was an All-American defensive end at Villanova and was drafted by the Oakland Raiders in 1981 ... he played in the NFL for 13 seasons and was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame following seven Pro Bowl appearances, two defensive player of the year awards, and a Super Bowl ring ... sociology major.

Career Highs
Tackles: 10 vs. Western Michigan, 2006
Tackles for Loss: 3 vs. Western Mich., 2005; vs. East Carolina, 2006
Sacks: 1 on seven occasions

Through his Junior year he had 24 tackles for loss and 7 sacks. Just this past week he got a sack for a safety.
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Chris Long
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Height: 6-4
Weight: 284

OF NOTE
• Named to the Lott Trophy’s preseason watch list
• Named to the Playboy 2007 preseason All-American team
• Candidate for the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, Outland Trophy, Chuck Bednarik Award, Lombardi Award and Ted Hendricks Award

CAREER HIGHLIGHTS
• Started the last 24 games for Virginia
• Serving as a captain for the second straight season
• Second-team All-Atlantic Coast Conference in 2006
• Led UVa in 2006 with 12 tackles for loss and 21 quarterback pressures

ADDITIONAL UVa NOTES
2006–
Had a tremendous campaign ... team captain ... fourth on the team with 57 tackles despite being double-teamed on virtually every play ... finished fourth among ACC defensive linemen with 4.8 tackles per game ... finished the year with four sacks ... helped UVa finish 17th in overall defense, allowing just 289.5 yards per game, the lowest by a Cavalier defense since 1979 ... had season-high three TFL at East Carolina ... had 10 tackles vs. Western Michigan and nine vs. East Carolina ... received three awards at the team’s annual awards banquet—Ned McDonald Award as UVa’s top defensive player, the Colonel F.C. McCue Award as team’s outstanding interior lineman and the Joe Palumbo Award honoring UVa player for self-sacrifice, dedication and enthusiasm ... first-team all-state by the Virginia Sports Information Directors and the Roanoke Times ... finalist for the Dudley Award, presented to top player in the state of Virginia ... lettered for the third time. 2005–Had a very productive season in his first year as a starter ... started every game ... got better by being matched up against All-American D’Brickashaw Ferguson during training camp and practice ... second among the team’s defensive linemen in tackling with an average of 3.8 tpg ... made 10 tackles for loss, nearly a quarter of his tackles ... had at least four tackles on six occasions ... 26 quarterback hurries were by far the most on the team ... shared the team lead with Marcus Hamilton with seven pass break ups ... made seven tackles in his first start against Western Michigan with three coming in the backfield ... no UVa defensive lineman has had more than seven tackles in his first start since 1987 ... three tackles, a pass break up and five pressures vs. Syracuse ... four tackles, including two for loss, against Duke ... six tackles, two for loss and a sack, against North Carolina ... his only tackle in the win over Temple was a sack ... had an outstanding game in a big win over Georgia Tech ... finished with three tackles and made life difficult for quarterback Reggie Ball with 10 quarterback pressures ... five tackles against Virginia Tech ... was dominating, particularly in the second half, in the Music City Bowl win over Minnesota ... made a career-high nine tackles, including one in the backfield ... lettered. 2004—Promising lineman who provided valuable depth along the defensive line ... played in six games overall ... saw limited action in the first three games before missing five games in the middle of the season due to illness ... saw action in the nickel package upon his return in November ... five tackles, but two were for loss ... had one sack ... made his first career tackle in the North Carolina game ... had another the next week vs. Akron before being sidelined for five games ... recorded his first tackle for loss in his return game against Miami ... made two tackles, including his first sack, in a road win over Georgia Tech ... lettered.

HIGH SCHOOL AND PERSONAL
Star on both the offensive and defensive lines at state champion St. Anne’s-Belfield School, where he was coached by John Blake ... had his jersey retired ... SuperPrep All-American ... PrepStar All-American ... No. 74 on Tom Lemming’s list of the top recruits in the nation ... 4-star player by Rivals.com and 3-stars by TheInsiders.com ... No. 6 Strongside Defensive End in the nation according to Rivals.com ... ranked as No. 8 defensive end by Tom Lemming and No. 11 by Collegefootballnews.com ... the No. 20 defensive tackle by TheInsiders.com ... No. 26 on SuperPrep’s list of the top defensive linemen in the country ... No. 19 player on TheInsiders.com’s Atlantic Hot 100 list and 24th on the Atlantic East Amazing 80 by Rivals.com ... honorable mention All-South by the Orlando Sentinel ... 2003 Gatorade Player of the Year in Virginia ... rated as the second-best player in Virginia by the Charlottesville Daily Progress “Gold List,” No. 3 by the Roanoke Times and No. 4 by SuperPrep and Rivals.com ... three-time first-team all-state selection on both offense and defense ... Central Virginia Defensive Player of the Year by the Daily Progress as a senior ... three-time first-team All-Central Virginia defensive lineman by the Charlottesville Daily Progress ... earned first-team All-Central Virginia honors his senior season as an offensive lineman as well ... conference Defensive Player of the Year his final two seasons ... was in on 91 tackles, including 44 solo tackles, as a senior to help lead his team to an undefeated season and the state championship ... had 23 tackles for loss and 15 sacks that season ... recorded 72 pancake blocks on offense ... Student Sports Junior All-American in 2002 ... had 85 tackles as a junior with 12 sacks and more than 20 tackles for loss ... three-time first-team All-Conference ... finished his career with 43 sacks and 66 tackles for loss ... also played basketball, lacrosse, and baseball during his high school career ... won the 2003 YMCA Slam Dunk Contest for high school students ... full name is Christopher Howard Long ... born 3-28-85 in Santa Monica, Calif. ... son of Diane and Howie Long ... has two younger brothers, Kyle and Howie ... father was an All-American defensive end at Villanova and was drafted by the Oakland Raiders in 1981 ... he played in the NFL for 13 seasons and was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame following seven Pro Bowl appearances, two defensive player of the year awards, and a Super Bowl ring ... sociology major.

Career Highs
Tackles: 10 vs. Western Michigan, 2006
Tackles for Loss: 3 vs. Western Mich., 2005; vs. East Carolina, 2006
Sacks: 1 on seven occasions

Through his Junior year he had 24 tackles for loss and 7 sacks. Just this past week he got a sack for a safety.
Wow, ask and ye shall receive! Thanks TekeRam. This guy looks like a heck of a prospect. And I like his character qualities that are readily apparent in his bio. I just wonder if he'll be rated as a top 3 pick as that's where we're gonna be pickin'.

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Copied from my post last night about none other than Chris Long:

Son Emerges From Long Shadow
By Adam Kilgore
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 19, 2007; E01

CHARLOTTESVILLE
Chris Long is running alone under the floodlights at the Virginia football team's practice field. The rest of his teammates have walked off the field and into the locker room, content to be done with their first practice of the preseason. Stripped down to a pair of gray spandex shorts and soaked in sweat, with blades of grass sticking to his body in the thick summer air, Long sprints up and down the field.
He's running because in a few weeks, he'll play a mile above sea level for the first time at Wyoming, and as a third-year starter and the current face of the team, he needs to be ready. He's running because he finds out what everyone else does, and then he does more. He's running because of the tattoo on his back that's almost too small to see: small, green letters that spell "PRIDE."
He's running because he has discovered that upholding his own reputation is even more difficult than escaping family comparisons. He is no longer Howie's kid, son of a Hall of Famer; he is one of the best college football players in the country, a lock to be one of the first 10 players picked in the NFL draft.
Mostly, though, Chris Long is running for the same reason his father did years ago. He is afraid.
"Fear of failure," Long said. "I have