Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Nick's Avatar
    Nick is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Morgantown, WV
    Age
    32
    Posts
    19,665
    Rep Power
    154

    Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Ryan has no background with Schottenheimer, but he may consider it more palatable to hire a "stranger" in this case because he and Schottenheimer coach on opposite sides of the ball and, in theory, wouldn't butt heads. Spagnuolo wants the power to hire his own coaches and he would like to have authority over the 53-man roster, according to sources - likely one of the reasons he has slipped behind Ryan.
    From a NY Daily News article about the Jets' coaching search and why Ryan may have passed Spagnuolo on their list. As a first time head coach who has really only been in this league for ten years, asking for full control over the roster may be a bit much for some organizations.


  2. #2
    txramsfan's Avatar
    txramsfan is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Poplar Bluff, MO
    Age
    50
    Posts
    7,266
    Rep Power
    65

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    I don't want him to have full control with Deveaney in the office. Shaw sure, but not BD.

  3. #3
    laram0's Avatar
    laram0 is offline Superbowl MVP
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Age
    57
    Posts
    9,272
    Rep Power
    109

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    From a NY Daily News article about the Jets' coaching search and why Ryan may have passed Spagnuolo on their list. As a first time head coach who has really only been in this league for ten years, asking for full control over the roster may be a bit much for some organizations.
    Spags is out......

    Leaves us with:
    Frazier
    Haslett
    Ryan
    Garrett

    in that order?

  4. #4
    AvengerRam's Avatar
    AvengerRam is offline Moderator Emeritus
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Longwood, Florida, United States
    Age
    46
    Posts
    18,816
    Rep Power
    168

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Devaney and Spagnuolo are apparently friends, so if they can work together on such issues, perhaps this is not such a big problem for us.

    That said, I'm starting to think that HUbison called it right by predicting that Frazier would be the choice. That is just fine by me.

  5. #5
    Mooselini's Avatar
    Mooselini is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    3,724
    Rep Power
    28

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Full control of the roster? Nah. I'd pass.


    Lets go Frazier!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Devaney, if you care about this team... fire the offensive coordinator!!!!

  6. #6
    THOLTFAN81's Avatar
    THOLTFAN81 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    1,938
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    If Spags and Deveney can use their friendship to agree on some things, were he doesn't have COMPLETE control, I want Spags.

    We need a hardass that isn't afraid to yell at his players...I won't mind Leslie Frazier, because he looks like a really good coach, however seems too passive to lead a team in disarray like we are.

    Just how i feel...

  7. #7
    HornIt's Avatar
    HornIt is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    406
    Rep Power
    15

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    I think people are misunderstanding here.

    Spags wants control over the 53 man roster and to select his own coaching staff.

    This is in perfect congruence with what Devaney has already said the Head Coach will get under him anyway. Devaney said he's old school in this respect. He believes the HC should have control of the 53 man roster so that all players understand they are accountable to the HC, not him or anybody else. The HC makes the decisions on who stays and who goes, who starts and who sits, etc.

    The HC also has control over his staff. They answer to the HC and he hires and fires them.

    That is different than having full control over the draft and free agency. Devaney would have control over that and that is not what Spags is reportedly asking for.

    Devaney has final say on draft picks and free agents, those players outside the 53 man roster. But once they are on the 53 man roster, they belong to the HC.

    It makes sense to me. That's the way it should be too IMO.

  8. #8
    AvengerRam's Avatar
    AvengerRam is offline Moderator Emeritus
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Longwood, Florida, United States
    Age
    46
    Posts
    18,816
    Rep Power
    168

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    You're making a lot of assumptions here.

    Quote Originally Posted by HornIt View Post
    I think people are misunderstanding here.

    Spags wants control over the 53 man roster and to select his own coaching staff.
    According to a sportswriter in NY, who may or may not be accurate.

    This is in perfect congruence with what Devaney has already said the Head Coach will get under him anyway. Devaney said he's old school in this respect. He believes the HC should have control of the 53 man roster so that all players understand they are accountable to the HC, not him or anybody else. The HC makes the decisions on who stays and who goes, who starts and who sits, etc.

    The HC also has control over his staff. They answer to the HC and he hires and fires them.

    That is different than having full control over the draft and free agency. Devaney would have control over that and that is not what Spags is reportedly asking for.
    First of all, you assume that the "control" Spagnuolo reportedly wants does not include draft and FA. We don't know that.

    Second, you assume that Devaney defines the term "control" the way you are. Again, we don't know that.

  9. #9
    HornIt's Avatar
    HornIt is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    406
    Rep Power
    15

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    The article in the NY Daily News specifically says he wants control over the 53 man roster.

    Devaney has specifically said the HC would have control over the 53 man roster. That he would work with the HC to put together the 80 man roster they'll go to camp with, but that the HC from there will make the decisions on the 53 man roster.

    Of course, any conclusions are based on that information being relayed accurately.

  10. #10
    eauclare is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    chicago
    Posts
    96
    Rep Power
    11

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    As long as Spags doesn't have final say on aquiring players thru the draft or FA, I have no problem with him having total control over the 53 man roster.

    He can have input, but Devaney has final say on obtaining personell. Then the HC should have final say on the 53 man roster since he and his staff have to evaluate them everyday.

  11. #11
    TKnight39's Avatar
    TKnight39 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Mo
    Posts
    65
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Just sign Ryan and get it over with already!

  12. #12
    THOLTFAN81's Avatar
    THOLTFAN81 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    1,938
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    does anyone know when the interview with Spags began?

    Im guessing we will have our new coach by tomorrow.

  13. #13
    HornIt's Avatar
    HornIt is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    406
    Rep Power
    15

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    It looks like WFAN is reporting that the Rams are down to two now and the two are Frazier and Garrett. There was another report earlier that said this too, but don't remember where it came from.

    If true, it makes the Spags control thing a moot point I guess anyway. We'll never know. I kind of hope it's not true though because I think I've been leaning Spags.

  14. #14
    THOLTFAN81's Avatar
    THOLTFAN81 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    NJ
    Posts
    1,938
    Rep Power
    25

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Quote Originally Posted by HornIt View Post
    It looks like WFAN is reporting that the Rams are down to two now and the two are Frazier and Garrett. There was another report earlier that said this too, but don't remember where it came from.

    If true, it makes the Spags control thing a moot point I guess anyway. We'll never know. I kind of hope it's not true though because I think I've been leaning Spags.
    Please don't make me vomit...if Garret makes the final two over Spags it just shows how hopeless our franchise is.

    BRING IN SPAGS!

  15. #15
    RamsFan16's Avatar
    RamsFan16 is offline Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Age
    25
    Posts
    5,072
    Rep Power
    39

    Re: Interesting tidbit about Spagnuolo

    Didn't Deaveny say he'd assemble the 80 man roster, and leave it upto the coach to pick the last 53?

    If so, then well, it's right about Deaveny's ally!



    PLUS Billy D and Spags are buddies, so I'd like to think the friendship between them would result in much of the same philosophy, as well as each other would work better together.
    RamsFan16

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 15
    Last Post: -01-14-2009, 01:33 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: -12-31-2008, 02:56 PM
  3. Interesting tidbit on Wroten
    By RamsFan16 in forum RAM TALK
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: -04-11-2007, 10:41 AM
  4. Replies: 16
    Last Post: -10-23-2006, 12:26 PM
  5. Replies: 44
    Last Post: -06-21-2004, 10:35 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •