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    Isaac Bruce's contract

    According to the rams insider magazine (our old friend howard), the 2005 cap charge on isaac bruce is 9.34 million. I would say for sure that needs to be restructured, no ifs ands or buts about it.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

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    According to the rams insider magazine (our old friend howard), the 2005 cap charge on isaac bruce is 9.34 million. I would say for sure that needs to be restructured, no ifs ands or buts about it.

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    Ya but Bruce knows hes still a premium wideout.Maybe we can restructure his contract,but it might not be this year.

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    Mason and Muhammad were also premium wideouts with very unfavorable cap numbers.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    But they dont have the the love.If Bruce were traded All Hell would break loose.The Busch Clydesdales would attack.
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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    In todays nfl, the love and 1.50 will get you a token on the subway. I agree that bruce is not going to get cut, but again, his contribution while highly significant, is out of whack to his cap number.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    Yeah if Bruce was traded or...cut! then this place would go crazy. Avenger would get up. We'd all get up. It'll be anarchy!

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    In todays nfl, the love and 1.50 will get you a token on the subway. I agree that bruce is not going to get cut, but again, his contribution while highly significant, is out of whack to his cap number.
    Well his contract was probably back loaded which means his cap number was much less than what his contribution was to the team the past few years. Does he not deserve it now after what he's done with the team.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagRam
    Yeah if Bruce was traded or...cut! then this place would go crazy. Avenger would get up. We'd all get up. It'll be anarchy!
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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    so lets have him restructeure the deal...give em a 3-4 year contract and give him some good numbers say 3 mil a year with a nice cap freindly signing bonus. save a mil or 2.....we can do it!

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    I agree that the contract, like all of them, is highly back end loaded for good reason. The player is either cut before the back end of the contract or the contract is renegotiated on more cap friendly terms (ie see faulk). In bruce's case, i think he still has several productive years left, which means we can restructure him, pay him a very meaningful signing bonus, and still not be mortgaging our future.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    I agree that the contract, like all of them, is highly back end loaded for good reason. The player is either cut before the back end of the contract or the contract is renegotiated on more cap friendly terms (ie see faulk).
    The purpose of these types of contracts is to provide cap relief early in the contract. If the purpose was to take advantage of the player and cut them before the end of the contract, then why would players agree to such contracts?

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    They agree to the contract because they are maximizing the amount of money that they get up front in the form of signing bonus. As we see from all the productive players being cut today, the only money that counts is the guaranteed money and almost no one has guaranteed money beyond the first couple of years of the contract (three at the outside). Taking a more cynical view, one might say that the agents convince the players not to worry about the later years so that they can get greater total value of the contract, thereby increasing their commissions.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    Quote Originally Posted by GC
    Taking a more cynical view, one might say that the agents convince the players not to worry about the later years so that they can get greater total value of the contract, thereby increasing their commissions.
    And folks, that's coming from an attorney.

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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagRam
    Well his contract was probably back loaded which means his cap number was much less than what his contribution was to the team the past few years. Does he not deserve it now after what he's done with the team.
    Right on Zig very good point.Bruce is our Rice please excuse the comparison,but I Damn sure believe we will treat Bruce better then the Whiners treated Rice after all he did for them.
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    Re: Isaac Bruce's contract

    Quote Originally Posted by ZigZagRam
    Well his contract was probably back loaded which means his cap number was much less than what his contribution was to the team the past few years. Does he not deserve it now after what he's done with the team.
    Deserving has nothing to do with the cap. It's anti-emotional. Look at Troy Brown as an example. Did everything the Pats asked him to and got the axe due to his cap number.

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