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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Guys, Smith is a turd......a shiny turd, but turd all the same. When you take a turd to market, you're not going to get a gold brick in return. It's just not going to happen. Smith was gone after this year anyway. And maybe Schott can get something out of Hunter. Maybe not.

    But we're talking about a backup OT. When was the last time trading a backup OT caused this much stir?

    I'd say last year's revolving door on the o-line and Bradford's subsequent injuries because of it is more than enough reason for fan interest/criticism of a back-up. The guy could be in there for significant time at some point during the season.


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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    I wonder how the "fans" would have reacted if the Rams had simply cut Smith.

    My guess is that a lot of the people who are whining about Hunter would have approved of such a move.

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

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    Got a guy who misses blocks in exchange for a guy who misses games, and saved $1.5M in the process.

    What's the big mystery here?
    Considering many here thought we would just cut him before camp even started, not sure what fans where thinking he's worth. It's easy to call a number two overall pick a bust. They day he is shipped out is the day reality sets in and it's just not easy to take.
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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Ventesette brings up the possibility of using Hunter in a jumbo package as a TE, helping Richardson makes sense.

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    I truly thought Saffold and Smith were going to be given every opportunity to erase the ills of last season and I was looking forward to seeing that come to fruition. It would have made us a better ball club. Obviously, the coaches felt in Smith's case that wasn't going to happen.

    And of the hundreds of football players I've heard discussed by a number of people on TV and radio the last week or so, Wayne Hunter is the guy who has generated the most scorn hands down. The Rams now have him. I hope this guy can get the job done when called upon, because he certainly didn't with the Jets.

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    Hopefully Bradford won't be planted face first as a result of one of those missed blocks and we learn a lesson the hard way.

    It's obvious during his time with the Jets Schottenheimer saw enough of Hunter to feel he has something to offer. That, plus saving money certainly figured into this decision. With that said, Hunter has been absolutely lambasted by everyone and their brother in the NY/NJ area (talk radio, fans, sportscasters) for his poor play- feelings that have some merit based on Hunter's inability to hold blocks and allow sacks. I still think it was too early to give up a high 2009 draft pick who is only 25-26 years old for a guy like Hunter.
    Hunter has been lambasted by people that want to blame him for the poor play of Sanchez. Hunter is not great, but was part of an 8-8 team last year and started the AFC title game in 2010. He played deep in the playoffs when Woody was hurt. He has looked terrible in 2012, but he is coming off a back injury and may not be suited to the new man blocking scheme the Jets are moving to under Sparano and Deguglielmo.

    It certainly wasn't way too early to give up on Smith. Once he lost the job in 2012 he was done. Nobody is going to pay him an $11M bonus (due March 2013), so what's the sense of keeping him around?

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    What this tells me is the Rams knew Smith was going to be cut on Friday. They traded him to someone who was $1.5 million less of a player than Smith, whatever that means.

    Maybe Schotty thinks Hunter is worth trying to develop as a LG. Maybe he loves the guy's attitude and thinks he can be a solid addition as a backup. Who knows? It really isn't relevant, just know Smith wasn't likely going to be on the team after Friday whether this trade occurred or not.

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelyell View Post
    smith wasn't likely going to be on the team after friday whether this trade occurred or not.
    Bing bing bing bing bing!!!!!!

    We have a winner, folks!!!!!!!
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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    I'd say last year's revolving door on the o-line and Bradford's subsequent injuries because of it is more than enough reason for fan interest/criticism of a back-up. The guy could be in there for significant time at some point during the season.
    I'm not questioning the relevancy of the discussion, Jersey. But rather the historic frequency of the subject.
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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    And you'd be wrong.


    As for the whole "contributing to the community" thing... I'll get right on that.
    Yeah, AV - come down off your "Mod Pod", and join the rest of us.

    You've only got 14,381 posts. What's up with that?
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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    When did I say that my opinion of Hunter is even relevant to the discussion? My opinion is that he, like Smith, is highly flawed.[
    The thread's focus is about the Smith and Hunter trade. Smith and Hunter are the main subjects of discussion. If you feel that your opinion of Hunter is not relevant, I don't see why you are in this thread then.

    But, again... who cares? My point... which you continue to miss, is that the Rams coaches and front office clearly thought this trade was a beneficial move, so to come out with statements like "OH MY GOD! HUNTER IS WORSE THAN SMITH!!!" is just, well... stupid.
    And the previous regimes (nonetheless were still RAMS regimes) thought a player like Drew Bennett was worth cutting Kevin Curtis for. Were we not supposed to give an opinion on that situation because it sure ended well didn't it?

    Oh, and the previous RAMS organization also drafted Jason Smith. Great move right? We wouldn't DARE to question that draft pick...because it was so perfect.

    The point YOU are missing pal is that no NFL employee is close to perfect. Some are terrible but obtained the job due to connections whether by family or by close friends. That is why some are one and done, and others are out of jobs within 5-6 years.

    Telling a forum designated to let fans submit their opinions on everything that happens in Rams world that we need to trust and believe in every move that the front office makes is highly ridiculous.

    Of course, if the discussion turns to golf and fishing, I'll be sure to get your opinion before commenting.
    Great attempt in trying to portray me as a person that only knows how to golf and fish. Real intellectual move, as seeing that this is not a golf or fishing forum I would expect there not to be any discussions of the sort. I expected more from a lawyer. Guess the ego got in the way.

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Rams GM Les on The Fast Lane said, the plan is to use Hunter at TE in the jumbo package. Run, Run, Run!!!

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambos View Post
    Rams GM Les on The Fast Lane said, the plan is to use Hunter at TE in the jumbo package. Run, Run, Run!!!
    I would assume we could have just used Smith at TE in a jumbo package because he used to be a TE.

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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by RockinRam View Post
    I would assume we could have just used Smith at TE in a jumbo package because he used to be a TE.
    Well kinda a better fit with Hunter as he knows position and he is not injury prone.

    "I want Wayne in this role," Ryan said. "It's a very valuable role. We had a lot of success in that the first two years."
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    Re: Jason Smith to Jets (Not Finalized, yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by RockinRam View Post
    I would assume we could have just used Smith at TE in a jumbo package because he used to be a TE.
    Could have. But would you rather pay 4m to a blocking specialist TE who can't catch, or 2.5m?

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