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    Just give him the damn ball!

    We are not utilizing Steven Jacksons talent enough. Especially yesterday with Feeley as our starting QB.

    Steven Jackson had 22 touches of the football yesterday. That's not enough! I know it's obvious to everyone we play that Jackson is at least our best runningback if not best offensive threat. My answer to that is, SO WHAT!

    Just looking at yesterdays games:

    Murray (Cowboys) 25 touches
    Hardesty (Browns) 35 touches
    Turner (Falcons) 27 touches
    Forte (Bears) 27 touches
    Foster (Texans) 30 touches
    Peterson (Vikings) 25 touches

    Other than Murray of the Cowboys who is now going to the Hall of Fame because of our non existent run defense. All the other guys are the feature players on their teams offense. Everybody including us knows that. They all still had more touches than our feature player. Again, I say who cares just give Steven Jackson the DAMN ball!


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    Re: Just give him the damn ball!

    That's because you have to actually get first downs to keep giving him the ball.

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    Re: Just give him the damn ball!

    Quote Originally Posted by richtree View Post
    That's because you have to actually get first downs to keep giving him the ball.
    I agree and his not getting 3 and 4 yards a touch that's for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    We are not utilizing Steven Jacksons talent enough. Especially yesterday with Feeley as our starting QB.

    Steven Jackson had 22 touches of the football yesterday. That's not enough! I know it's obvious to everyone we play that Jackson is at least our best runningback if not best offensive threat. My answer to that is, SO WHAT!



    Just looking at yesterdays games:

    Murray (Cowboys) 25 touches
    Hardesty (Browns) 35 touches
    Turner (Falcons) 27 touches
    Forte (Bears) 27 touches
    Foster (Texans) 30 touches
    Peterson (Vikings) 25 touches

    Other than Murray of the Cowboys who is now going to the Hall of Fame because of our non existent run defense. All the other guys are the feature players on their teams offense. Everybody including us knows that. They all still had more touches than our feature player. Again, I say who cares just give Steven Jackson the DAMN ball!
    First Drive SJ had 4 touches of the 6 play drive and avg. 2.25 yards.

    1-10-STL24 (14:53) (Shotgun) S.Jackson left tackle to SL 25 for 1 yard (D.Ware).
    2-9-STL25 (14:23) S.Jackson up the middle to SL 27 for 2 yards (M.Spears).
    3-7-STL27 (13:51) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short left to G.Salas to SL 39 for 12 yards (F.Walker). Pass complete on a bubble screen.
    1-10-STL39 (13:19) S.Jackson left tackle to SL 36 for -3 yards (J.Ratliff).
    2-13-STL36 (12:43) (Shotgun) S.Jackson left tackle to SL 39 for 3 yards (S.Lee; K.Brooking).
    3-10-STL39 (12:05) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete deep left to D.Alexander. Pass incomplete sideline; Jenkins closest defender.
    4-10-STL39 (12:00) (Punt formation) D.Jones punts 59 yards to DAL 2, Center-J.McQuaide, downed by SL-Q.Porter.
    Second drive SJ had 4 touches of the 8 the plays and avg on runs 1.6 and -4 yards on one catch.

    1-10-STL20 (9:33) A.Feeley pass short middle to B.Lloyd to SL 32 for 12 yards (B.James). Pass complete on a slant.
    1-10-STL32
    (8:57) S.Jackson left tackle to SL 33 for 1 yard (S.Lee). PENALTY on DAL-D.Ware, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at SL 32 - No Play.
    1-5-STL37
    (8:26) PENALTY on SL-A.Feeley, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at SL 37 - No Play.
    1-10-STL32 (8:05) A.Feeley pass short middle to B.Bajema to SL 40 for 8 yards (B.James). Pass complete on a curl.
    2-2-STL40 (7:32) S.Jackson right tackle to SL 39 for -1 yards (A.Elam, G.Sensabaugh).
    3-3-STL39 (6:54) A.Feeley pass short right to B.Bajema to DAL 49 for 12 yards (A.Elam). Pass complete off play action; and roll right.
    1-10-DAL49 (6:15) S.Jackson left guard to DAL 48 for 1 yard (J.Price-Brent).
    2-9-DAL48 (5:36) S.Jackson up the middle to DAL 44 for 4 yards (S.Lee; K.Brooking).
    3-5-DAL44 (4:57) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short right to S.Jackson to DAL 48 for -4 yards (O.Scandrick) [J.Ratliff]. Screen pass.
    4-9-DAL48 (4:19) (Punt formation) D.Jones punts 48 yards to end zone, Center-J.McQuaide, Touchback.

    Third drive 5 plays SJ had two touches for and avg. of 3 yards.

    End of the first

    fourth drive 8 plays SJ had four touches. He had 3 touches avg 15.333 yard and a TD on this drive.

    1-10-STL15 (12:17) A.Feeley pass short left to B.Lloyd to SL 22 for 7 yards (M.Jenkins). Pass complete on a curl.
    2-3-STL22 (11:39) (Shotgun) S.Jackson up the middle to SL 22 for no gain (A.Spencer; S.Lissemore).
    3-3-STL22
    (11:05) (Shotgun) PENALTY on DAL-J.Ratliff, Encroachment, 5 yards, enforced at SL 22 - No Play.
    1-10-STL27 (10:46) A.Feeley pass short left to B.Lloyd to SL 31 for 4 yards (M.Jenkins). Pass complete on a quick slant.
    2-6-STL31 (10:10) A.Feeley pass short right to M.Hoomanawanui to SL 47 for 16 yards (K.Brooking; A.Elam). Pass complete off naked bootleg right.
    1-10-STL47 (9:27) A.Feeley pass incomplete short right to B.Lloyd (A.Ball). Pass thrown on quick right toward the sideline.
    2-10-STL47 (9:21) A.Feeley pass short left to B.Lloyd to DAL 46 for 7 yards (A.Ball). Quick out pass.
    3-3-DAL46 (8:45) (Shotgun) S.Jackson up the middle to DAL 6 for 40 yards (T.Newman). Injury update: Rams' Poppinga has left calf strain; return is doubtful.
    1-6-DAL6 (8:03) S.Jackson right tackle for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
    Fifth drive three plays SJ was not in the game.

    1-10-STL13 (5:04) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short right to M.Hoomanawanui to SL 14 for 1 yard (K.Coleman, B.James) [D.Ware]. Tight end screen pass.
    2-9-STL14 (4:25) C.Williams right end to SL 15 for 1 yard (K.Brooking).
    3-8-STL15 (3:43) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass deep middle intended for B.Lloyd INTERCEPTED by M.Jenkins at SL 33. M.Jenkins to SL 30 for 3 yards (B.Lloyd).
    Third Quarter

    Sixth drive score is 7-17 at this time. Three plays SJ gets one touch for no gain Avg 0. And was targeted on an incoplete pass.

    1-10-DAL44 (13:21) A.Feeley pass incomplete deep left to B.Lloyd (M.Jenkins). Pass incomplete on a GO route. Justin King of St. Louis has a right groin injury; his return is questionable.
    2-10-DAL44 (13:13) (Shotgun) S.Jackson up the middle to DAL 44 for no gain (S.Lee).
    3-10-DAL44 (12:37) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete short left to S.Jackson [J.Ratliff]. Screen pass; hit Bell in the back of the leg.
    4-10-DAL44 (12:31) (Punt formation) D.Jones punts 32 yards to DAL 12, Center-J.McQuaide, fair catch by D.Bryant.
    Seventh drive three plays SJ got all three touches for an Avg. 1 yard

    1-10-STL40 (5:30) S.Jackson up the middle to SL 39 for -1 yards (A.Elam).
    2-11-STL39 (4:55) (Shotgun) S.Jackson up the middle to SL 41 for 2 yards (J.Price-Brent, S.Lissemore).
    3-9-STL41 (4:15) (Shotgun) S.Jackson right end to SL 41 for no gain (M.Spears).
    4-9-STL41 (3:39) (Punt formation) D.Jones punts 45 yards to DAL 14, Center-J.McQuaide, fair catch by D.Bryant.
    Drive Eight 5 plays SJ got one touch for 3 yards, Avg 3 yards.


    1-10-STL3
    (:26) PENALTY on SL-R.Saffold, False Start, 1 yard, enforced at SL 3 - No Play.
    1-11-STL2 (:26) A.Feeley pass short middle to S.Jackson to SL 5 for 3 yards (B.James). Pass complete off play action out of the backfield.
    Fourth Quarter
    St. Louis Rams continued...
    2-8-STL5 (15:00) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short left to M.Hoomanawanui to SL 32 for 27 yards (M.Jenkins). Pass complete on a curl.
    1-10-STL32 (14:24) A.Feeley pass incomplete short right to D.Alexander. Pass incomplete at the St. Louis 45 on a button hook; Newman closest defender.
    2-10-STL32 (14:17) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete short middle to D.Alexander [K.Brooking]. Pass incomplete on a crossing pattern; Lee closest defender.
    3-10-STL32 (14:12) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete deep right to B.Lloyd. Pass incomplete on a fly pattern at the Dallas 40.
    4-10-STL32 (14:07) (Punt formation) D.Jones punts 53 yards to DAL 15, Center-J.McQuaide. D.Bryant pushed ob at DAL 22 for 7 yards (B.Miller). Return right sideline.
    Drive Nine five plays SJ get not touches we are losing 7-27 at this time.


    1-10-STL13 (9:19) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short right to G.Salas pushed ob at SL 34 for 21 yards (A.Elam). Pass complete screen.
    1-10-STL34 (8:51) (Shotgun) C.Williams left end to SL 34 for no gain (A.Spencer).
    2-10-STL34 (8:17) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short right to D.Alexander to SL 40 for 6 yards (F.Walker) [A.Spencer].
    3-4-STL40 (7:35) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete short middle to D.Alexander. Pass incomplete at the St. Louis 47; Butler closest defender.
    4-4-STL40 (7:31) (Shotgun) A.Feeley sacked at SL 34 for -6 yards (D.Ware). FUMBLES (D.Ware), recovered by SL-Jason.Brown at SL 39. Jason.Brown to SL 39 for no gain (D.Ware).
    Drive Ten SJ gets four touches.. 2 runs for an Avg. 10 yards and two passes for an avg. 4 yards.

    1-10-STL35 (4:00) A.Feeley pass short left to B.Lloyd to SL 45 for 10 yards (M.Jenkins).
    1-10-STL45 (3:20) A.Feeley pass incomplete short left to L.Kendricks (D.Ware). Pass knocked down at the line of scrimmage.
    2-10-STL45 (3:15) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short left to S.Jackson to DAL 47 for 8 yards (K.Brooking). Pass complete on a wheel route.
    3-2-DAL47 (2:30) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short middle to B.Lloyd pushed ob at DAL 13 for 34 yards (F.Walker). Pass complete on a crossing pattern.
    1-10-DAL13 (2:21) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass short right to S.Jackson pushed ob at DAL 17 for -4 yards (S.Lee).
    2-14-DAL17 (2:15) (Shotgun) S.Jackson left tackle to DAL 2 for 15 yards (G.Sensabaugh).
    1-2-DAL2 (2:00) A.Feeley pass incomplete (K.Coleman). Pass tipped at the line of scrimmage.
    2-2-DAL2 (1:54) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete short left to B.Lloyd (M.Jenkins). Pass incomplete left corner end zone; 7 yards deep.
    3-2-DAL2 (1:49) (Shotgun) A.Feeley pass incomplete short middle to B.Lloyd [D.Ware]. Pass incomplete on slant; Newman closest defender.
    4-2-DAL2
    (1:49) (Shotgun) PENALTY on DAL-J.Ratliff, Encroachment, 1 yard, enforced at DAL 2 - No Play.
    4-1-DAL1 (1:44) S.Jackson right end to DAL 6 for -5 yards (A.Elam).

    As I look at the plays, I think SJ was featured big time in this game plan. I can't see him getting more plays when his avg. and as we fall so far behind.
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    Re: Just give him the damn ball!

    Yeah, that pretty much sums it up, LARAM. You would love to give Sjax the ball more, but with the situations we always put ourselves in week in week out, you have to start throwing more...

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    Re: Just give him the damn ball!

    Also the fact that Jackson can not get any significant yards when we DO give him the ball, does not help his case either.

    I feel that we gave Jackson the ball TOO many times yesterday. We're up against the #1 run defense with a shotty o-line and an aging running back? It's not going to work out too well, and it was obvious our running game sucked yesterday. No need to keep on feeding what doesn't work.


    And to validate what I said, we gave Jackson the ball three times in a row on one drive. He gained about 2 yards total. I don't see the point in giving him the ball more.

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    Re: Just give him the damn ball!

    I would actually like to see Jackson given some holes to run through when he gets the ball which would result in him being much more effecctive. Hes not Barry Sanders, he needs lanes to run through which our o-line almost never gives him. 18 carries was fine in yesterdays game, but he is a hell of a reciever out of the back field we just refuse to feed him the ball. When we do throw it to him he is in no mans land and the entire defense saw it coming.
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    Re: Just give him the damn ball!

    Given Jackson the ball isn't the problem or him getting older isn't a problem either. It'sour dam O Line not opening any fricking holes for him whatsoever! The few plays we did Sunday he did something with the ball. You be kidding me? Steven does not look like some old beat up running back like Cadilac Willams out there that makes a crucial mistake 2 games that tilts the scales in the other teams favor from there on out. I hate him we need to give Tolston a shot!

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