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    Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    So far the Rams have traded tow picks for specialists:

    - a 7th for a punter;
    - a 5th for a 28 yr old returner; and
    - a 5th for a 30 yr old DE.

    There is the proposed Jenkins trade for a 2nd or 3rd.

    Are the Rams in a Washington Redskin type spin of mortgaging the depth and future of the team to fill needs with people expensively and with little upside?

    Or is this smart, as the offense has a 2 year window before a transition comes so fill needs now?

    I'm torn...
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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    last year , the rams recouped picks , made some last minute trades , MANUMALIUNA , and the dradedown with denver . look for them to do the same . i loved the outcome of last years draft , except fot the byrd pick . i wanted a big DE , and their were a few , who are making a differance right now . so look for the same manuvering if they can find partners to trade with . they are not going to trade away all their picks , as in WASHINGTON SENIOR CITIZENS REDSKINS , .

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    Considering good punters are had to come by in this league, i'd said a 7th for a young punter is good value. Also looking at the rams past 5th round picks, hagans -06, jerome collins- 05, jason shivers 04, it doesn't seem the rams are losing much when they get a quality KR/PR in return for this year's 5th

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    Well, its not like they're trading for acquiring ancient players. Most of the players obtained this offseason are in their mid to late 20s.

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    and at the same time as britishram states brillantly, we havent gotten really any value for our late round picks picks period in the past 5 years... no randall gay's, antoine bethea's, marques colsten's, nothing... only bust players who are cut in trainin camp so i am totally fine with this trade

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    I like the move to pick up Dante Hall. The word is that he has lost a step? If so, he's still a step or 2 better than what we had last season.

    Another hole is filled.:r

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    i also dont think that trading away #5's counts as mortgaging the future. The way to win in the nfl is an appropriate mix between present and future. Betting it all on the future makes little sense in most circumstances, and certainly not in the context of the prolific offensive talent currently on the squad.

    Remember when the eagles were the defending nfc champs, needed a running back, had plenty of picks, had plenty of cap room, and refused to take the seahawks offer of a #3 for alexander? They refused to trade away any future, left all that cap on the table, and have had two tough years. You have to manage your cap and your young players, but that doesnt get it done without some vets mixed in as well.

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith m. klink View Post
    Last year, the rams recouped picks, made some last minute trades, MANUMALEUNA, and the tradedown with Denver. Look for them to do the same. I loved the outcome of last year's draft, except fot the Byrd pick. I wanted a big DE, and there were a few, who are making a difference right now. So look for the same manuvering if they can find partners to trade with. They are not going to trade away all their picks, as in WASHINGTON SENIOR CITIZENS REDSKINS.

    Good summary. I agree (and I was not excited about Byrd either). This year seems to be going in a better direction with improved results. [Get KJenkins already!] As LARAM0 said, another hole has been filled with Dante:

    I like the move to pick up Dante Hall. The word is that he has lost a step? If so, he's still a step or 2 better than what we had last season.

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    The Rams have had 24 draft picks in the last 2 drafts. So far they have only traded a 5th round pick. The other 2 picks were extra anyway. The Rams are bringing in cheap veterans to play spots by using 2nd day picks, which is not mortaging the future.

    The Rams may or may not trade for Kris Jenkins and I am leaning towards it not happening.

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    A 5th and a 7th round pick represent 'mortgaging the future'?? If thats the case...the future aint too bright. You need to brush up on what the Redskins did over the last several years. They paid STUPID money for aged, questionable 'BIG NAME' veterans. The Rams have done NOTHING of the sort with these moves.
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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    we already have a substantial amount of young players on this team, as well as some veterans. there is no problem with trading a couple of picks every year to pick up quality veterans at positions of need.

    there is also an additional bonus that trading these late picks for veterans means we get guys who will contribute right away, which is what we need when you have some of our decent offensive players getting up in years.

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    Quote Originally Posted by tomahawk247 View Post
    we already have a substantial amount of young players on this team, as well as some veterans. there is no problem with trading a couple of picks every year to pick up quality veterans at positions of need.

    there is also an additional bonus that trading these late picks for veterans means we get guys who will contribute right away, which is what we need when you have some of our decent offensive players getting up in years.
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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    I think they have done a good job so far in putting some pieces together.
    2 #5 picks get you a vet DE who still has something left in the tank and a PR/KR which we all know has been missing for years and can be a solid #4 receiver as well.
    A #7 pick for a punter that is proven, not too shabby.
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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    we dont hit very often on second day picks either, and it always helps that we invariably end up with one or two second day comp. picks

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    Re: Last Stand or Mortgaging the Future?

    we are trading picks that most likely will be cut or put on the practice squad. i think what the Rams are doing by plugging these holes is getting us one step closer to the super bowl

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