Little feels pain of his actions 10 years later

[ramsanddodgers]

I feel I have to laud Little for speaking out on his pain.

I do not and can never condone what he did but he is striving to find a way to deal with it and at the same time doing what he can do help others to think about the potential consequences of their actions.

To me drinking and driving is tantamount to partially loading a firearm and then playing Russian Roulette.

I find it sad he did not learn his lesson the first time but how many of us actually do? Usually we have to get slapped-up alongside the head and shoulders a few times before it sinks in.

If Little can stop even one person from doing what he did then it is well worth the effort.

[VegasRam]

Originally Posted by OldSchoolRamFan

You obviously make your own decisions as to what you do or do not choose to pass judgment on. However, since Little has chosen to speak about the incident, then it also opens up a forum of public opinion based upon such incident. Everyone has their own opinion and if you choose to deem that as "passing judgment" well then you have the right to do so. My opinion, which is shared by Moloch as well, is that his actions after the fact are contrary to what he expresses as immense guilt immediately following the tragedy. Call it my opinion, call it passing judgment, that is just how I see it.

Actually "Old School", (at the ripe old age of 36?), no it doesn't.

All it does is give you an excuse, (sanctioned by yourself), to voice your own opinion.

Fact is, OS, and MO, you guys are both assuming Little wasn't targeted by the St. Louis Police. The arresting officer was NOT one of "St. Louis's Finest", and no one knows for sure why (or if) he was after Little.

Doesn't matter.

The guy is doing something good.

Period.

No one can argue that.

Yet every time his name comes up, all you self-righteous whatevers just cannot help but start up the same "TEN YEAR OLD CRAP", for whatever reason.

Actually, I know the reason.

And so does TX.

You're all without sin. Lucky you.

Give it a rest, guys...just let it go.

It's done.




MODS - close the flippin' thread.

[BIG-BLUE]

Originally Posted by moloch41

Well, considering most of America (who aren't professional athletes or entertainers) would have gone to jail for years for the same thing means he got off easy. But more to the point- the fact that he got pulled over again for drunk driving AFTER killing a wife and mother of two- makes me question this massive guilt. I know that if I ever killed someone while drinking drunk- my guilt wouldn't let me touch a drop of alcohol again- nevermind getting in a car and driving after I had done so...

Truth is you have no idea what you would do. You would like to believe you would do all the right things after such a tragic incident, but have you ever killed someone? & had to live with that pain? Unless you have been in his shoes you have no idea what a person who has committed such a crime goes thru every single day knowing that he killed a mother, a wife, a daughter.
So please please spare us with the self richeous attitude

[OldSchoolRamFan]

Originally Posted by VegasRam

Actually "Old School", (at the ripe old age of 36?), no it doesn't.

All it does is give you an excuse, (sanctioned by yourself), to voice your own opinion.

Fact is, OS, and MO, you guys are both assuming Little wasn't targeted by the St. Louis Police. The arresting officer was NOT one of "St. Louis's Finest", and no one knows for sure why (or if) he was after Little.

Doesn't matter.

The guy is doing something good.

Period.

No one can argue that.

Yet every time his name comes up, all you self-righteous whatevers just cannot help but start up the same "TEN YEAR OLD CRAP", for whatever reason.

Actually, I know the reason.

And so does TX.

You're all without sin. Lucky you.

Give it a rest, guys...just let it go.

It's done.




MODS - close the flippin' thread.

So, you feel for some reason that going after my name is the way to do things? Very noble of you.

And yes, whether sanctioned by myself or not, I do have the right to voice my opinion, this is in fact a public forum and as far as I know, this is still America.

The FACT is that you don't know whether this was one of "St. Louis's Finest" or not and one thing that I'm NOT assuming is that he did in fact kill someone as a result of his actions.

You can throw all the stones you wish with your "ripe old age" and "self-righteous whatevers," but resorting to insults and name calling does not make your statements any more impactful.

And again, this is STILL America, so your authoritarian request to "close the thread," shows your further inability to either debate a particular point or leave well enough yourself. Again, we mave have differing opinions from your own and now I will digress and ask you to be man enough to accept that.

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by BIG-BLUE

Truth is you have no idea what you would do. You would like to believe you would do all the right things after such a tragic incident, but have you ever killed someone? & had to live with that pain? Unless you have been in his shoes you have no idea what a person who has committed such a crime goes thru every single day knowing that he killed a mother, a wife, a daughter.
So please please spare us with the self richeous attitude

I don't have a self-richeous attitude- I grew up po' white folk, actually.

Hey, if I didn't do the right things after killing someone, then I would expect for people to call me a POS.

[moloch41]

I just wonder if Leonard Little was a member of the 90's Cowboys and not the Rams- if everyone on this board would be just as concerned and forgiving. And I'm sorry if I don't let my following of the Rams and the liking of Little as a player affect my opinion on this. The guy killed a woman while drinking and driving before and I'm apt to think he would do it again before I would consider some far-fetched conspiracy involving the St. Louis police dept (although maybe it was Mark Furman...right after he framed OJ). And me thinks all the people throwing around the term self-righteous (or however they wish to spell it) are sounding a tad self-righteous themselves. Just as you have the right to believe him and take him for his word, we have the right to question it.

[UtterBlitz]

I am sure it is good for Little to speak in public about the incident. It will make some people think about the dangers of drinking and driving and he may work through some of the guilt that he carries with him. It will re-open the situation up for people to discuss yet again, as they are in this thread. Leonard and the team will have to deal with the comments that are made.

Do you suppose a 10 year old understands what drinking and driving means? Perhaps this is a better topic for older kids that have more exposure to drinking and driving.

[RamFan_Til_I_Die]

Originally Posted by moloch41

I just wonder if Leonard Little was a member of the 90's Cowboys and not the Rams- if everyone on this board would be just as concerned and forgiving. And I'm sorry if I don't let my following of the Rams and the liking of Little as a player affect my opinion on this. The guy killed a woman while drinking and driving before and I'm apt to think he would do it again before I would consider some far-fetched conspiracy involving the St. Louis police dept (although maybe it was Mark Furman...right after he framed OJ). And me thinks all the people throwing around the term self-righteous (or however they wish to spell it) are sounding a tad self-righteous themselves. Just as you have the right to believe him and take him for his word, we have the right to question it.

So he got in the accident that killed the girl 10 years ago, then 2 years later got pulled over for a dui he wasnt convicted of...that was EIGHT YEARS AGO! How long are you going to hold this against him? Is there anything he can do to make amends for it in your opinion? If so, what? Have you in your life never made a really bad mistake twice? When you did did you ask people to forgive you and try to make amends? How would you feel if no one would forgive YOU?

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by RamFan_Til_I_Die

So he got in the accident that killed the girl 10 years ago, then 2 years later got pulled over for a dui he wasnt convicted of...that was EIGHT YEARS AGO! How long are you going to hold this against him? Is there anything he can do to make amends for it in your opinion? If so, what? Have you in your life never made a really bad mistake twice? When you did did you ask people to forgive you and try to make amends? How would you feel if no one would forgive YOU?

First off, his second DUI was only 4 yrs ago. So no, I really don't feel any pity for Leonard Little. My sorrow is with the family who lost a loved one and then had insult added to injury by him getting off with probation- only to see him do it again and once again skirt any personal responsibilty for his actions by using his money and celebrity to get off on a technicality. Had he stepped up and admitted that he had made a second mistake, then maybe I could, but he didn't even do that much. Do I like Leonard Little the player- yes. Do I like Leonard Little the human being- not so much.

[Milan]

So if Little had gotten a 3 year sentence would you have a different opinion of him?

[Nick]

If there's one good thing that will come about through Little's eventual retirement, it's that we won't have to keep hearing about this story every couple of years.

[VegasRam]

Actually MO, first off, he NEVER GOT A SECOND DUI.

Hello?

And while I'm at it, (not that it could ever happen to all you forgiving types), if you ever DID get in a jam, you would do EVERYTHING in your power not to do time.

So save the "he got off because" B.S., please.

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by VegasRam

Actually MO, first off, he NEVER GOT A SECOND DUI.

He got pulled over, failed road sobriety tests, and admitted to the cops that he had been drinking. He got off on a technicality. He never fought the fact that he was dead wrong and never admitted to it. He used a loophole in the repeat offender law to beat the rap. Had he been man enough to step up and admit what he did, I would have an easier time accepted his apology.

Hello?

Originally Posted by VegasRam

And while I'm at it, (not that it could ever happen to all you forgiving types), if you ever DID get in a jam, you would do EVERYTHING in your power not to do time.

You're right- that makes OJ and PacMan good guys too. This is besides the point anyway- the whole article is based on how tough it is to live with this, but apparently not enough to make him own up to what he did.

[Ntchwaidumela]

I'm confused... 'Framed' for DUI?

How does that work? (seriously)

[thoey]

Sheesh... How long till training camp?