There are very few players in the NFL that would garner a 1st round pick. If they get a 4th for Little, they would be lucky.
Chris chambers was the Dolphins best Offensive player LL is our second best behind Spoon. Maybe not now or to Denver, but maybe the new guy wants to go in a new direction and rebuild from scratch.
Reading other forums, it seems as though most Denver fans wouldn't want to give more than a fourth for him. I can't see us accepting that, no matter how useless our FO may be.
1. I'm no expert, but I would think the first step in trade negotiating (or the rumor prolification thereof) would be the get the name of the player correct.:| This would be my suggestion to "Mike" from Denver.
2. I suppose the world would come to an end if every trade rumor wasn't followed by some structure of this dialogue.......
fan from player's current team: There's no way we trade him for less than (high ball figure, usually 1st or 2nd)
fan from player's potential new team: There's no way we give up more than a (insert low ball figure, typically 5th or 6th).
So with that in place, what team would put the highest value on Leonard Little? IMO, the answer is a 4-3 Base team that has a shot of winning THIS year, but lacks a solid pass rush. That being the case, the most attractive partners would be Denver, Washington, Jacksonville, or Indy. Depending on their desire to win NOW, I could see any one of those teams giving up a 3rd realistically.
But what value would St. Louis require? Well, on the field, they are giving up probably 8 sacks this year, but maybe 10-12 sacks in the future, assuming he plays 1 or 2 more years. Off the field they are giving up a tenured well respected defensive leader. That has to be factored into any trade equation. With that in place, what would the Rams have to have in return?
I'd entertain discussions of a 3rd.
Tye Hill for Jay Cutler...now you're talking:D
I would not let Little go for less than say a 3rd and a 4th together or a second and a 5th together or straight up for a 1st. Just like posted before we got a 4th for Manumaleuna. So Denver is basically saying a totally disruptive defensive player is worth no more than a 4th to them I say B.S. I'm sure we could get a 1st or second out of them or they arent getting Little plain and simple. Plus their picks are going to be low because they will make the playoffs. I think Little is worth the 25th overall pick in the draft. If your talking a second rounder your talking somewhere from 52nd through 64th. Thats would be lowballing us. We are not shopping Little they are requesting and showing interest so let them pay what we want.
But miser, if we only got, say 2 seasons out of the 25th overall pick, wouldn't we be screaming how that pick was a bust?Quote:
Originally Posted by miser
In essence that is what the trading team would be getting........a 34-year-old (ie a couple of seasons at best) for the 25th overall pick. We wouldn't accept that, why would another team?
You mention Manu. In that trade, the Chargers gave up a 4th round pick for a 26-year-old blocking TE with a low cap number. He wasn't spectacular but he was established and the Chargers could easily get another 6 or 7 years out of that trade. In Little however, they are getting a 34-year-old DE who may have only a year or two left in him.
Hard as it may be to believe, to a lot of teams, Manu's trade could very well bring HIGHER value to the Rams than a potential Little trade.
And if we did get a rookie who came in and was one of the best players at his position for two or three years and helped us to a championship, but that was it, I wouldn't call that a bust. That would be like drafting Terrell Davis, who only had four good years but will be remembered in Broncos history as a player who helped put them over the top.
Ding, ding, ding......yes, fleece, that is EXACTLY the thing! One team (therefore, one fanbase as well) will usually always have to bite a pillow on these deals, simply because one team NEEDS the trade more than the other. That's why I said elsewhere that 4 teams....Indy, Jax, Washington, & Denver.....meet the terms of ability to win RIGHT NOW and a lack of pass rush. To those teams, the Rams could garner more for Little than with other teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by fleece
Having said that, I still would be shocked to see any team give up a 1st round (really even a 2nd round) for a DE that will offer maybe half a dozen sacks this season and maybe 8-10 next year, then hang 'em up.
But that's just me.