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    Quote Originally Posted by TekeRam View Post
    I just don't see a 5'10" guy in Bailey who can start outside, sorry.
    Height has nothing to do with being an outside receiver. It's about beating press coverage


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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcat View Post
    Height has nothing to do with being an outside receiver. It's about beating press coverage
    You're right and wrong. There is ways to help the WR mask press coverage anyways. Things like sending them in motion, or keeping them off the LOS.


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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Les Snead and Jeff Fisher
    Press Conference – April 26, 2013

    (On picking WR Stedman Bailey)
    Snead: ”I think that going to that private workout, hearing what our quarterback said about this kid, I think ESPN or whoever said he’s got some of the best hands in the draft. That’s kind of what’s been reported. But to hear the quarterback say, ‘This guy is 5’11, whatever, but it’s like throwing to a 6-foot-3 guy. He goes up and gets the ball.’ So I think that private workout really helped solidify that pick for us.”
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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Several opinions:

    1. Fans are absolutely justified in being critical/cynical when a team takes a guy in the 1st or 2nd round and he barely sniffs the field. (Brian Quick)
    2. Fans are absolutely justified in being critical/cynical when a high round pick takes the field sparingly and does little to warrant thinking he'll be a huge part of next year's offense (Isaiah Pead).
    3. No GM/Coach/Personnel Guy with a shred of competance would EVER admit a year after making a selection that it was a mistake- even if it were true.
    4. When a team drafts multiple players at a given position in a 7 round draft- especially when they move up to do so- it is a clear indicator they feel that is a position of need. And we ALL know that is absolutely the case with the Rams at receiver, whose roster consists of unproven guys who may or may not be any good.
    5.When the average length of an NFL career is 3 years, it is not unreasonable for fans to bristle at the notion it will take "several years" before a guy "possibly" develops into a solid player- especially when we've been "rebuilding" forever.

    I think Bruceforlife's original question is legitimate.
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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce4life View Post
    Is this an indictment that the rams FO knows they blew last years 2nd round pick for Quick?
    When the Rams selected Torry Holt with the 6th pick in the draft in 1999, did that indicate that they thought Isaac Bruce and Ricky Proehl were washed up, or that Az Hakim was a bust?

    The Rams selected Bailey because (1) he was the top player on their board, and (2) WRs get injured sometimes, so you need depth.
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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    The Rams selected Bailey because (1) he was the top player on their board, and (2) WRs get injured sometimes, so you need depth.
    Exactly. I think the Giants trading up to get Nassib is a good example of how teams don't let great value pass by.

    I have never seen Bailey play, but if the coaching staff though he had the best value, then I don't think the pick says much about how they view Quick.

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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Has it been so long since we had a really good team that we forgot that most rookies don't play much?

    Look at the whiners rookie class of 2012, did any of them play much? No.

    As we build the team back to a winners, our rookie classes should have a harder time getting playing time in their first year or somethings wrong.

    You will always have some holes to fill but not like what we have faced in the last 8 years or so...

    We only had three receivers on the active roster... how can anyone think the pick was made because someone is not panning out. Sounds like a giant hole that needed to be filled.

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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Quote Originally Posted by sosa39rams View Post
    You're right and wrong. There is ways to help the WR mask press coverage anyways. Things like sending them in motion, or keeping them off the LOS.
    ....which would make him a Flanker, not a Split End.
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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce4life View Post
    Having 5 young up and coming talented receivers as we now possess is one hell of a commodity. Competition breeds success as they say. How will Quick and even Pettis take this news? Both these receivers are different players than Bailey but will there honestly be enough balls to go around?
    I don't know about you, but after watching Bradford routinely have nowhere to go in the passing game last year, having enough balls to go around is a problem I would welcome with open arms.
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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    ....COULD HAVE HAD KEENAN ALLEN


    I doubt Bailey will have 10 career Touchdowns....but down I am officially a fan of his since the Rams drafted him and hope he can prove me wrong..

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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    ....which would make him a Flanker, not a Split End.
    In technical terms, yes. Even then, I don't envision Bailey having too many troubles getting off the LOS. But Bailey is a guy I see as versatile, so he can line up at X, Y, or even Z, though with Cook and Austin I don't see him getting much time at Y.


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    Re: Love the Bailey pick but....

    With the thousands of variable that each player will face between today and the start of the season in 2017, I'm absolutely shocked more people aren't completely confident in knowing exactly where and how a player will play throughout their career.

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