Marty Schottenheimer

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Originally Posted by Fettmaster

That's the UFL, his team literally had a one in four chance of winning the championship by just showing up lol.

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Right, the same organization that just went under.

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Originally Posted by THOLTFAN81

Right, the same organization that just went under.

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Thanks for proving my point, that the man is willing to work in the a$$hole of the football world (at this point in his life) just so he can do what he LOVES to do!

Don't know much about Marty but I would rather have a long term coach.

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Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike

I like Marty, but he has a long standing karma issue in the playoffs with some of the most heartbreaking defeats in NFL history ("The Drive" and "The Fumble").

That said, maybe Marty's bad luck would cancel out the Rams bad luck and we might have something. Kind of like two negatives making a positive?:D

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Most of what you said about Marty was said about DV before he came to the Rams and won a championship.

I am all in lets get Marty....

I'm a long time Marty fan, so heck yeah :)

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Originally Posted by svh01

I would love him to our coach. He can build the organization into a winner and develop a coach to take over when he retires. If we don't get Fisher and end up with a coordinator, Marty could come in with a role like Parcells had with the Dolphins.

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This is really the crux of my original post. Schottenheimer would (like Vermeil) be head coach in name but act far more like an assistant GM within 24 months. Vermeil didn't run the offense or defense, he had assistants do all of that. He ran the football operations, made sure people were doing their jobs, everyone was on the same page working in the same direction.

In a way, you have to define what you want your head coach to do. Do you want him being a position coach (impossible really). Do you want him being a Coordinator by default (most coaches). Or do you want him to run the team by managing the coaches and developing a system?

The idea that the Rams are looking to hire someone for 5-10 years is part of the problem. This franchise hasn't had a head coach longer than 4 years since John Robinson. Each time they switch, it's a completely new direction pretty much and we need a new set of players with a new set of skills to match the new regime. That needs to change.

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Originally Posted by Fettmaster

That's the UFL, his team literally had a one in four chance of winning the championship by just showing up lol.

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The exact same chance as our team has of winning the division........but that hasn't happened in nearly a decade.


I think Marty would be a great choice.

I just find it weird that apart from this forum I have not seen his name mentioned anywhere in relation to any of the open HC jobs. Maybe i haven't looked hard enough, but it's possible that age is a factor

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Originally Posted by RebelYell

This is really the crux of my original post. Schottenheimer would (like Vermeil) be head coach in name but act far more like an assistant GM within 24 months. Vermeil didn't run the offense or defense, he had assistants do all of that. He ran the football operations, made sure people were doing their jobs, everyone was on the same page working in the same direction.

In a way, you have to define what you want your head coach to do. Do you want him being a position coach (impossible really). Do you want him being a Coordinator by default (most coaches). Or do you want him to run the team by managing the coaches and developing a system?

The idea that the Rams are looking to hire someone for 5-10 years is part of the problem. This franchise hasn't had a head coach longer than 4 years since John Robinson. Each time they switch, it's a completely new direction pretty much and we need a new set of players with a new set of skills to match the new regime. That needs to change.

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I don't think looking for someone for 5-10 years is a bad thing. Isn't stability something we all value? Do we WANT to start all over with a new voice and a new direction every 3 years?

Yes, Dick Vermeil laid a blueprint with the help of veteran, successful assistants. Guys like Mike White and Frank Gansz were invaluable. That's part of the problem- we'd need to not only hire Marty but drum up a number of quality assistants to support him. Easier said than done.

Certainly not arguing with you- as I've said, I like Schottenheimer, and your ideas make sense. I just think it's a long shot considering he hasn't even been mentioned by anyone other than us fans.

Any head coach hired would need to bring in multiple, quality coaches. The Rams basically have a OC at this point and he's on the bubble.

I wasn't saying having a coach for 10 years isn't a good thing, it's just that the Rams don't do that. The Rams need to build an overall system and when it's time to hire a GM, HC or coordinator again, he plugs into the system.

I think you all have summed up the Schottenheimer scenario pretty well:

• He knows how to build a competitive team and is one of the winningest regular season coaches in NFL history.
• In 9 of the 13 years his team made the playoffs, they were eliminated in the first round. He has never taken a team to the Super Bowl.
• At his age, it is not likely that he would be around for the long haul.

In my opinion, this could be a formula for success if he would accept a slightly more aggressive offensive coordinator and we started working on succession planning from the beginning. We don't want to just play Marty Ball for three years and then find a better game manager to take over the team he built.