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    News on NEW Head Coach ?

    From the Washington Post
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    The list of potential successors in all cases starts with two successful college coaches with NFL experience: Notre Dame's Charlie Weis and Southern California's Pete Carroll, both of whom got contract extensions at their schools. Kirk Ferentz of Iowa, also a former NFL assistant, is likely to get overtures, and so is Oklahoma's Bob Stoops, who could be one of the candidates to replace Vermeil.

    The leading candidates among NFL assistants include Gregg Williams, Washington's assistant head coach for defense, who is a former head coach in Buffalo, along with defensive coordinators Ron Rivera of Chicago and Tim Lewis of the New York Giants and offensive coordinator Brad Childress of Philadelphia.

    Williams, Rivera and Lewis are all in the playoffs with their teams, meaning they can be interviewed by teams with vacancies during a short window, but not hired until their teams are eliminated.

    If their teams reach the Super Bowl, that means they will have to wait until after the game on Feb. 5, a delay that in the past kept such coaches as Weis and Cleveland's Romeo Crennel, who came from New England; Cincinnati's Marvin Lewis (Baltimore); and Carolina's John Fox (Giants) on the market for an extra year.


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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Exactly, theres no tampering allowed so no one can be hired if they are playing still. So if we do hire someone this week then we know it will be from a non playoff team or someone from the oustide.
    Quote Originally Posted by ramsbruce
    Kudos to Jared Cook for saying what needed to be said about being outplayed and outcoached vs the Cards.

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Yes, but we can interview them and come to terms without signing the paperwork - an agreement in principle (which can't be announced or formalized).

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Right we can interview but we can't hire. So if we announce a new coach this week it won't be anyone in the playoffs.
    Quote Originally Posted by ramsbruce
    Kudos to Jared Cook for saying what needed to be said about being outplayed and outcoached vs the Cards.

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    More NEWS from the Baltimore SUN (See Martz comments):

    The coaching shuffle begins
    Ken Murray -- On the NFL



    January 1, 2006

    By noon tomorrow, the Houston Texans likely will have called a select number of candidates to arrange interviews for their newly vacated coaching job. Names may include Gary Kubiak, Jerry Gray, Gregg Williams and/or Mike Martz.

    With that, the race will be on.

    The race to rebuild, to find a new leader, an inspired vision or just a better coach.

    In the NFL, this month promises to be a mad scramble. At least four coaches either have been or will be fired. As many as eight could be out of work. The Detroit Lions already canned Steve Mariucci. The Texans will dump Dom Capers tomorrow. Martz will formally surrender his job in St. Louis once he reaches a settlement with the Rams.

    Last year, only three coaches were jettisoned. But in the past six years, a total of 37 coaching changes were made, an average of about six a year. Of those 37, only three were fired and bounced immediately to another team: Marty Schottenheimer (Washington to San Diego) in 2001, Tony Dungy (Tampa Bay to Indianapolis) in 2002 and Mariucci (San Francisco to Detroit) in 2003.

    This, then, is our endangered coach watch, with prospects listed in order of their chance for resurfacing.

    # Martz: A brilliant offensive mind, he'd be an excellent fit in Houston, where quarterback David Carr hasn't gotten much help on the field or in meeting rooms. But Martz needs a strong boss who can drag him back to reality when his offensive wizardry starts to run away with the program.

    His record of 56-36 (.609), including postseason, is the best of any coach about to be deposed. He deserves another shot.

    # Jim Haslett: The New Orleans Saints won't fire Haslett, but he has been worn down by a skinflint owner and the aftereffects of Hurricane Katrina. Speculation is he'll ask out of his contract.

    Haslett has a winning percentage of .474 but produced only one playoff team in six seasons. He won't have a problem finding another job if he's allowed to go.

    # Mike Sherman: The Green Bay Packers gave him full control in 2000, and his personnel decisions proved his undoing. Sherman took the team to the playoffs in four of six seasons, but first-year general manager Ted Thompson stripped a contending team to its core and didn't find replacements. Sherman might keep his job, but probably won't take another one.

    # Mariucci: He went to the playoffs four times with the *****, and even with the debacle in Detroit, is 75-71 overall. But after failing to improve the Lions' young players, he needs to take over a veteran team. May resurface in the right situation.

    # Dick Vermeil: He took the Philadelphia Eagles to the Super Bowl, won one with the Rams, but ran out of time with the Kansas City Chiefs. At 69, after producing six playoff teams in 15 years, it's time to go. He'll probably coach his last NFL game today.

    # Mike Tice: He got the Minnesota Vikings job in 2002 because he came cheap and kept it because former owner Red McCombs was cheap. It wasn't Tice who brought the Vikings back this season from a 2-5 start, it was the schedule-maker. In their six-game winning streak, they played one team with a winning record. He'll coach his last game today, too.

    # Norv Turner: He produced one playoff team in nine NFL seasons, and his offensive scheme failed both Kerry Collins and Randy Moss with the Oakland Raiders. Unless he survives this season, Turner is done as a head coach.

    # Capers: Coach of expansion teams in Carolina and Houston, he took the Panthers to the NFC championship game in 1996, but hasn't come close since. He has an overall record of 49-80, and he won't get another chance.

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Out of the list of HC's in the article quoted above, I would only take three: Martz, Vermiel, and Sherman.

    Getting Mike Sherman wouldn't be that bad. At least he has a good reputation. And, with Martin looking at retirement soon, maybe Sherman would bring Farve along to be our #2 QB. That wouldn't be bad...he and Bulger have a lot of similarities. If Bulger had to sit out a game, Brett could come in and the offense wouldn't miss a beat....

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    I know we're all frustrated and grabbing at straws, but, wow, did you really suggest for real Farve backing up Bulger??

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    I think the Rams are making a mistake. The players really like Mike so it will be interesting. I also think they just assured Marshall retiring.

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJD45
    I know we're all frustrated and grabbing at straws, but, wow, did you really suggest for real Farve backing up Bulger??
    Why not? Farve is nearing retirement age, but is still good, good enough to be a starter. Bulger is still young, but getting better. They have the same style. Bulger even said at one time that he looked up to Farve, and wanted to play like him.
    Can you imagine how much fear our opponents would have knowing that two of the best QBs in the NFL were Rams? Even if one was out....we could still explode.
    Yeah, I suggested it. Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFanSam
    Why not? Farve is nearing retirement age, but is still good, good enough to be a starter. Bulger is still young, but getting better. They have the same style. Bulger even said at one time that he looked up to Farve, and wanted to play like him.
    Can you imagine how much fear our opponents would have knowing that two of the best QBs in the NFL were Rams? Even if one was out....we could still explode.
    Yeah, I suggested it. Why not?
    That would be a dream senerio,but it aint gonna happen.
    and I disagree with Dom Capers being finished.
    I wouldnt put it passed Shaw to hire him,if our interviews go bad, and we dont get who we want....guess what.

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Well, for one thing, I think you are viewing Bulger with Rams-colored glasses. The rest of the NFL is not that impressed with Bulger and sees him as average, and he strikes no fear into anybody. But more importantly, you are really, REALLY missing Favre's stature in the pantheon of the NFL. He's regarded as one of the best to ever play. Maybe people would accept him going to Atlanta to mentor Vick because of the hype and star power of the two, but even that's a big maybe. Sorry to say, Bulger's star power is zero, and if Favre actually lowered himself to what you are suggesting the ridicule and the hit to his legacy would be terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Soprano
    More NEWS from the Baltimore SUN (See Martz comments):

    The coaching shuffle begins
    Ken Murray -- On the NFL



    January 1, 2006

    By noon tomorrow, the Houston Texans likely will have called a select number of candidates to arrange interviews for their newly vacated coaching job. Names may include Gary Kubiak, Jerry Gray, Gregg Williams and/or Mike Martz.

    With that, the race will be on.

    The race to rebuild, to find a new leader, an inspired vision or just a better coach.

    In the NFL, this month promises to be a mad scramble. At least four coaches either have been or will be fired. As many as eight could be out of work. The Detroit Lions already canned Steve Mariucci. The Texans will dump Dom Capers tomorrow. Martz will formally surrender his job in St. Louis once he reaches a settlement with the Rams.

    Last year, only three coaches were jettisoned. But in the past six years, a total of 37 coaching changes were made, an average of about six a year. Of those 37, only three were fired and bounced immediately to another team: Marty Schottenheimer (Washington to San Diego) in 2001, Tony Dungy (Tampa Bay to Indianapolis) in 2002 and Mariucci (San Francisco to Detroit) in 2003.

    This, then, is our endangered coach watch, with prospects listed in order of their chance for resurfacing.

    # Martz: A brilliant offensive mind, he'd be an excellent fit in Houston, where quarterback David Carr hasn't gotten much help on the field or in meeting rooms. But Martz needs a strong boss who can drag him back to reality when his offensive wizardry starts to run away with the program.

    His record of 56-36 (.609), including postseason, is the best of any coach about to be deposed. He deserves another shot.

    # Jim Haslett: The New Orleans Saints won't fire Haslett, but he has been worn down by a skinflint owner and the aftereffects of Hurricane Katrina. Speculation is he'll ask out of his contract.

    Haslett has a winning percentage of .474 but produced only one playoff team in six seasons. He won't have a problem finding another job if he's allowed to go.

    # Mike Sherman: The Green Bay Packers gave him full control in 2000, and his personnel decisions proved his undoing. Sherman took the team to the playoffs in four of six seasons, but first-year general manager Ted Thompson stripped a contending team to its core and didn't find replacements. Sherman might keep his job, but probably won't take another one.

    # Mariucci: He went to the playoffs four times with the *****, and even with the debacle in Detroit, is 75-71 overall. But after failing to improve the Lions' young players, he needs to take over a veteran team. May resurface in the right situation.

    # Dick Vermeil: He took the Philadelphia Eagles to the Super Bowl, won one with the Rams, but ran out of time with the Kansas City Chiefs. At 69, after producing six playoff teams in 15 years, it's time to go. He'll probably coach his last NFL game today.

    # Mike Tice: He got the Minnesota Vikings job in 2002 because he came cheap and kept it because former owner Red McCombs was cheap. It wasn't Tice who brought the Vikings back this season from a 2-5 start, it was the schedule-maker. In their six-game winning streak, they played one team with a winning record. He'll coach his last game today, too.

    # Norv Turner: He produced one playoff team in nine NFL seasons, and his offensive scheme failed both Kerry Collins and Randy Moss with the Oakland Raiders. Unless he survives this season, Turner is done as a head coach.

    # Capers: Coach of expansion teams in Carolina and Houston, he took the Panthers to the NFC championship game in 1996, but hasn't come close since. He has an overall record of 49-80, and he won't get another chance.
    What a great post "TONY" really good info their !!!!

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    Re: News on NEW Head Coach ?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJD45
    Well, for one thing, I think you are viewing Bulger with Rams-colored glasses. The rest of the NFL is not that impressed with Bulger and sees him as average, and he strikes no fear into anybody. But more importantly, you are really, REALLY missing Favre's stature in the pantheon of the NFL. He's regarded as one of the best to ever play. Maybe people would accept him going to Atlanta to mentor Vick because of the hype and star power of the two, but even that's a big maybe. Sorry to say, Bulger's star power is zero, and if Favre actually lowered himself to what you are suggesting the ridicule and the hit to his legacy would be terrible.
    OK, so Farve beats Bulger in a popularity contest, and Farve has had time to become a legendary name.
    I still think that given identical circumstances, Bulger could perform as well as Farve....maybe better. Since he is still developing each year, and Farve is not, I think that Bulger will pass him someday on most records, except the streak of games started by a QB.

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    Two things I do not want to see happen are the Rams hiring a Holmgren disciple...and them switching over to a WCO. That would just suck. Can you imagine Bulger with Bruce and Holt running high percentage pass plays...scary. I think I like them better in Martz's scheme, whatever that was.

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    I doubt they'll go the West Coast Offense way... Everything runs its course in the NFL. DEF COORDS have seen a lot of that offense.

    But, I'm gettting in the Nothing will surprise me mode.

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