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    The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    And yes, I know the title is grammatically incorrect. Sue me.
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    Some debates just refuse to go away......Warner v. Bulger; Martz: Hero or Villain; LA v. St L; etc.

    One that may be on the horizon is Laurinaitis v. Maulauga. Just as with the other debates, no solid apples to apples comparison will be possible, so both sides will continue to claim victory every single week. Of course, one side will be right, and the other will be delusion. The problem will be accurate self-identification within those two groups.

    The weekly debate will go something like this:

    JL fan: The Rams did the right thing by drafting JL.

    RM fan: No way! Did you see the hit RM put on that guy?

    JL fan: RM had X tackles last week. JL had X+4.

    RM fan: Yea, but RM actually knocked a guy out last week.

    JL fan: On the year, RM has Y tackles, and JL has Y+45. RM has Z sacks, JL has Z+3. RM has AA defended passes, JL has AA+5 defended passes. RM has BB tackles for loss, JL has BB+8.

    RM fan: Yea, but RM hit a guy so hard last week, the dude actually lost a birthday!



    Just not looking forward to this one, gang.

    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Yep. I can see this one a-comin' also. Oh well sometimes stuff like this is what makes the world go 'round, or the stomach turn, you're choice.

    BTW Hub I must know: How is your title grammatically incorrect? Hmmm... could it be that you ended a sentence with a preposition? Well, heck, if you can't do that then what's the world coming to?

    WHAT SAY YE?

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    You're right Hub and you know what? One season doesn't make a career.
    Last edited by laram0; -05-06-2009 at 01:12 PM.

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    i think its sadly gonna be inevitable..with so many members who are fans of both the Trojans & the Rams...i think its time for fans to put personal favorites aside and give the rookies our full backing...my pre-draft views on Jason Smith were well documented but now he`s a Ram..i wont mention the structure of his legs again...(well not until atleast 3 years from now..)

    i think personally, both the Rams and the Bengals got the MLB that was best for them!

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    JL Fan: Did you see the terrific pass coverage Laurinitis had on that 3rd and 6 where he broke up the pass intended for the tight end?

    Rey fan: Did you see Rey standing on the sideline on third down?

    Ramming speed to all

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Alot will depend on whether we are winning or losing games this year. If we are winning, this debate could lose some of its appeal ..

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Although I'm clearly biased, we should at least keep this discussion fair. It's not right to assume that a certain player will lead another certain player in every major defensive category before either of them have played a down in the NFL, even though a certain player is more than capable of achieving this.

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Part of it though. I'm still peeved about taking Hill over Cromartie. Hopefully, JL can be better than Rey and snuff all this.

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Quote Originally Posted by shower beers View Post
    Although I'm clearly biased, we should at least keep this discussion fair. It's not right to assume that a certain player will lead another certain player in every major defensive category before either of them have played a down in the NFL, even though a certain player is more than capable of achieving this.
    That's kind of the point, Shower. This, like most of our on-going debates, is a head vs. heart discussion. The head says pick the guy that is statistically better and able to spend more downs on the field. the heart says pick the guy who hits like a Mack truck, both on the field and on YouTube.

    The head and the heart will never meet unless the head pick hits harder than the other guy, or the heart pick is statistically better than the other guy. So if RM is statistically better AND the bigger YouTube factor.........there is no debate.

    So, you see, for the debate to even exist, my forecast (ie. a conclusion without seeing anybody on an NFL game field) has to suggest BOTH sides will play to their strengths.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblin` Ram View Post
    i think its sadly gonna be inevitable..with so many members who are fans of both the Trojans & the Rams...i think its time for fans to put personal favorites aside and give the rookies our full backing...my pre-draft views on Jason Smith were well documented but now he`s a Ram..i wont mention the structure of his legs again...(well not until atleast 3 years from now..)

    i think personally, both the Rams and the Bengals got the MLB that was best for them!
    The Rams should always be #1 in our books fellas. Laurinaitis and Rey will both be studs in the NFL, who really cares who gets more tackles/sacks each week? I'd rather see the W's. It was a win/win situation for us, and quite frankly I'll take character over habitual offenders any day.


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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Rey not even playing MLB no more so it shouldnt be any comparisons

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblin` Ram View Post
    i think its sadly gonna be inevitable..with so many members who are fans of both the Trojans & the Rams...i think its time for fans to put personal favorites aside and give the rookies our full backing...my pre-draft views on Jason Smith were well documented but now he`s a Ram..i wont mention the structure of his legs again...(well not until atleast 3 years from now..)

    i think personally, both the Rams and the Bengals got the MLB that was best for them!
    the fans can put aside their personal favorites all they want... but the media would pick it up. no chance they'd let this potential perpetual debate not be fully perpetrated. (how's that for grammer Hub?! actually, its kinda fun if you say if real fast)
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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Quote Originally Posted by general counsel View Post
    JL Fan: Did you see the terrific pass coverage Laurinitis had on that 3rd and 6 where he broke up the pass intended for the tight end?

    Rey fan: Did you see Rey standing on the sideline on third down?
    JL Fan: I did see Rey on the sideline. Who was that cheerleader he was grinding on?

    Quote Originally Posted by KoaKoi View Post
    the fans can put aside their personal favorites all they want... but the media would pick it up. no chance they'd let this potential perpetual debate not be fully perpetrated.
    I'm guessing the media will be more intrigued by the Cushing vs Matthews vs Maualugu debate.

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    First off we can't really compare them right now because as of now Rey is playing SLB which is completely different Lauranatis at MLB.

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    Re: The next perpetual debate I'm NOT looking forward to.

    Quote Originally Posted by 39thebeast View Post
    First off we can't really compare them right now because as of now Rey is playing SLB which is completely different Lauranatis at MLB.
    You're right about that. I do think there will be comparisons based on impact and effectiveness though.

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