He was a solid secondary coach for the Titans, but a terrible DC. Good luck.
I'm sure it will be fine, but I'm just not as sold on the guy. Yea, he was some kind of Rodney Harrison cheap shot artist, and he was some big tough guy in his day, but I'm not ready to equate that with an improved secondary.
Maybe it is; I certainly hope it is.
We could nit-pick every decision made this off-season. Some didn't like the Fisher hiring. Others don't like the DC, OC, or position coaches. We've seen coaches come and go over the past decade. Many had great success prior to arriving in STL. The facts/statistics that got them the jobs, did little to help our team move forward. Past success or failure is not always the best predictor of future outcomes. I'm not going to buy in to the argument that any of our coaching staff is inadequate at this point. they haven't even had a chance to meet with the players.
Geez guys, give the staff chance to do something with this team before you start raking them over the coal. I seem to remember a lot of talk prior to the 1999 season. Lots of talk about the inadequacy of our coaching staff. Not too many people would claim that staff was poor now. Could we have had some better position coaches? Maybe, but the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. It seems to me that some of us need an attitude adjustment just as badly as our team.
Sigh... (with credit to AV),
Quick - name last year's Rams' DB Coach.
Let's stop with he MICRO analysis of every pick. The guy's an ex pro-bowler who played the position, with coaching experience. Jeez...
Seems like Chuck Cecil might help us out with that.
I think people are nit picking way too much. I think the hire is a good one. We need to stop being pushed around all the time. Greg Williams' defense finished 24th overall this past season. Does that mean hes a bad d-coordinator all of a sudden? No. You work with what you got.
As VegasRam and rams4life pointed out, we're overanalyzing here. There is SO MUCH that goes into whether or not one is a coaching success- scheme, personnel, assistants, support staff and good fortune. Raw numbers sometimes but don't always paint a true picture.
Cecil's persona and performance as a player gives me hope he will instill that same tenacity in our guys. Labeling him as "a cheap shot artist" is simplistic and inaccurate. The guy was a good player for several years known for his hard hitting. Yes, he stepped over the line a time or two- as ANYONE known for their hard hits would be- but I hardly think he's gonna' be teaching our guys how to maim and cripple people.
I think Fisher is putting together a good staff. Let's hope they pay dividends sooner rather than later.
Actually, it's succinct and exact. He was notorious for lowering his helmet to make the hit from the top of his helmet. As the NFL told him back then, "See what you hit." He's lucky he's not paralyzed now.Quote:
Labeling him as "a cheap shot artist" is simplistic and inaccurate.
Hopefully, that's not a technique he is now teaching our secondary.
Position coaches are there to teach technique. His was not good.
After what we've been through for the past 10 years people are going to complain about being too tough? Please, I'll take a tough physical scary hard hitting defense that'll knock you're teeth out all day over a bunch of boy scouts on the field.
To Jersey Ramsfan 1.
Totally and utterly agree. Like you say, its pointless trying to measure his abilities, because its was a completely different time and place. The mans resume, statistics from the past, its all kind of irrelevant to me. Within reason that is.? What can you do for me lately, is what truly counts. Cecils is a great fit for a Fisher defense, his persona being great for coaching, so their are no complaints from me whatsoever. A real MANS man I bet.?? The funny thing is I wasn't overanalyzing anything, until I started reading these threads. You start trying to justify yourself, for fear of attack or people nit picking.?
I'm as hopeful with this signing as I am with all of the other signings. If this guy can make an overly soft secondary tougher then I'm all for it. The entire team needs to get tougher as far as I'm concerned.
Y' know, hub - it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to label Deacon Jones as a cheap shot artist either.
Or Ronnie Lott, or Hacksaw Reynolds, or..., or..., or....
The technique you refer to is outlawed by the league, so the point's kinda' moot. And, as has been said, it's the attitude he will (hopefully) instill that matters. And you'll be cheering just as loud as everyone else when they actually replay a Rams' secondary hit.