Notes From KFFL - Rams | Jackson benched at end of game

[ramsbruce]

Rams | Jackson benched at end of game
Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:04:14 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams RB Steven Jackson was benched at the end of the team's Week 11 game. There is speculation it was due to a potential blown blocking assignment, which led to QB Marc Bulger (shoulder, concussion) being injured. Interim head coach Joe Vitt would not say who blew the assignment, but Jackson turned inside to take on a linebacker, allowing a safety to have a free path to Bulger.


Rams | Archuleta won't play in Week 12
Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:03:53 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams SS Adam Archuleta (concussion) will not be able to play during Week 12. He was hospitalized following the team's Week 11 game and was released from the hospital Monday, Nov. 21.


Rams | Saipaia won't play in Week 12
Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:03:12 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams OL Blaine Saipaia (concussion) will not be able to play during Week 12. He was hospitalized following the team's Week 11 game and was released from the hospital Monday, Nov. 21.


Rams | Martin suffers bruised ribs
Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:02:44 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams QB Jamie Martin (bruised ribs) was shaken up during Week 11, but he was able to remain in the game. He suffered bruised ribs during the game.


Rams | Fitzpatrick to see action with starters
Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:02:17 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams interim head coach Joe Vitt said rookie QB Ryan Fitzpatrick will see some work with the first-string offense leading into Week 12.

Rams | Carter to start at strong safety
Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:01:58 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams rookie S Jerome Carter will start at strong safety during Week 12.

Originally Posted by ramsbruce

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams RB Steven Jackson was benched at the end of the team's Week 11 game. There is speculation it was due to a potential blown blocking assignment, which led to QB Marc Bulger (shoulder, concussion) being injured. Interim head coach Joe Vitt would not say who blew the assignment, but Jackson turned inside to take on a linebacker, allowing a safety to have a free path to Bulger.

Hum seems like I recall some one else here (ME) saying that very thing and some people here tried to argue with that person that it was not Jacksons fault. Not only did he blow that assignment but the other one were Martin fumbled Jackson was to high in his pass protection and a guy pushed him nearly 10 yards backwards and then the guy nailed Martin. Jackson almost got two QBs injured in pass protection. He is no Faulk when it comes to pass protection.

[LaRamsFanLongTime]

He is no Faulk when it comes to pass protection.

Was Faulk even Faulk in his second year? You fans are really starting to piss me off. Everyone wants to jump all over everybody now. Its his fault , no its his fault. Lets say this, lets go on record. This offensive line sucks, The routes are taking to long to develop, the defence is pourous every where, this team needs a change of pace. I think we will see that next year and it will start with Jackson.

Originally Posted by LaRamsFanLongTime

Was Faulk even Faulk in his second year? You fans are really starting to piss me off. Everyone wants to jump all over everybody now. Its his fault , no its his fault. Lets say this, lets go on record. This offensive line sucks, The routes are taking to long to develop, the defence is pourous every where, this team needs a change of pace. I think we will see that next year and it will start with Jackson.

Hello Mr. Ram Fan we are 10 games into the season we are setting at 4-6. I think several fans here have the right to say what stinks. Jackson has to improve his blocking he almost got two QBs killed last Sunday. They took him out of the game what don’t you understand.

Let me say something that might make you happier. Oh that Jackson he is so great when the OL opens a really big hole he can run in a straight line for a long distance. When they don’t open a really big hole that OL sucks. When Jackson tries to go outside he gets shoe lace tackled by a guy with one hand that’s not his fault he needs a really big hole to run in a straight line and the OL just is not opening a really big hole for him to run in a straight line. Oh I am sorry I blamed the OL now well maybe its not their fault either maybe its some one else’s fault maybe its Shaws fault.

There are plenty of faults to be had this year. If you don’t like hearing the facts from the game then I suggest you tune out.
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[HUbison]

Hum seems like I recall some one else here (ME) saying that very thing and some people here tried to argue with that person that it was not Jacksons fault.

You are free to speculate, just as Jim Thomas is. But if he got benched for not going through immediate cell division and blocking both free blitzers......why did it take 16 minutes and 17 plays over 4 series for them to pull him?

[RAMarkable]

Hey Mr. STLRamsfan I saw that play twice on replay and it was apparent that there were two blitzers coming free to Bulger; are you saying that Jackson should have known to take Wilson and let the LB come clean? If he had done so who was going to block the LB? I would appreciate a reply at your earliest convenience.

WHAT SAY YE?

Originally Posted by RAMarkable

Hey Mr. STLRamsfan I saw that play twice on replay and it was apparent that there were two blitzers coming free to Bulger; are you saying that Jackson should have known to take Wilson and let the LB come clean? If he had done so who was going to block the LB? I would appreciate a reply at your earliest convenience.

WHAT SAY YE?

Reading the original post it looks as though some think they took him out for picking up the wrong guy on the Bulger assassination. What say Ye on the Martin play were he was to high in his blocking and got pushed all the way back to Martin and then the guy nailed Martin and Martin fumbles.

Please don’t be blinded by your loyalty to the horns and view the plays as they stand.

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams RB Steven Jackson was benched at the end of the team's Week 11 game. There is speculation it was due to a potential blown blocking assignment, which led to QB Marc Bulger (shoulder, concussion) being injured. Interim head coach Joe Vitt would not say who blew the assignment, but Jackson turned inside to take on a linebacker, allowing a safety to have a free path to Bulger.

I realize there was two guys but that still don’t negate the fact his blocking assignment was the safety that totally teed off on Bulger. The LB was not who he was supposed to take he was supposed to take the guy coming in like a locomotive. He has to see that safety coming as soon as the ball is snapped. The LB came through the OL and they slow him down the safety came off the corner the RB is the only one that can slow him down.

Does anyone want to comment on his blocking of the Martin fumble?

[HUbison]

Originally Posted by STL

I realize there was two guys but that still dont negate the fact his blocking assignment was the safety that totally teed off on Bulger.

I know we're dealing with details here, but let's assume that instead of Huff, he picks up Wilson. Do you believe SJ would be receiving criticism for allowing Huff to knock Bulger out of the game?

[LaRamsFanLongTime]

Saying he is no Faulk is an assinine thing to say. Want to debate that go ahead you will lose. He is still a second year player and will need to grow. You may have said that in your later post but ur initail assesment was
"He is no Faulk" Gee this kid has not proven that he is as good as the best all around back ever to lace up his cleats in a NFL game.

If you said Jackson needs to work on his fundamentals of blocking I would be right there with you. Instead you jumped on him dont try to back pedal. Your damage control wont work on me.

Hello Mr. Ram Fan we are 10 games into the season we are setting at 4-6. I think several fans here have the right to say what stinks. Jackson has to improve his blocking he almost got two QBs killed last Sunday. They took him out of the game what don’t you understand.

Absolutely but dont attack someone for not being as great as a future hall of Famer in his second year.

Let me say something that might make you happier. Oh that Jackson he is so great when the OL opens a really big hole he can run in a straight line for a long distance.

Once again the sarcasm on this board is sometimes at the lowest intelligence level. I have seen him power through many a tiny hole. I watched him look brilliant against the Jags one of the best defences in the country.He will have good games and bad games he is young.Remove him from your avatar if you are not gonna support him. He needs time to grow.

Let me start off by saying how long have you been a football fan?

Please start spelling defence defense you continue to misspell the word.

Originally Posted by LaRamsFanLongTime

Saying he is no Faulk is an assinine thing to say. Want to debate that go ahead you will lose.

Okay I will debate that he is no Faulk in pass blocking. How many times have you ever heard Faulk get called out for not blocking the right guy? How many times have you seen Faulk take on a block and not succeed not near as often as I see with Jackson? Jackson took the wrong assignment on one of the plays that gave our QB a concussion and knocked him out for several games and then fails in blocking for Martin which caused Martin to get drilled, fumble the ball, and he is still feeling the effects of the shot he took. You have no argument.

If you said Jackson needs to work on his fundamentals of blocking I would be right there with you. Instead you jumped on him dont try to back pedal. Your damage control wont work on me.

Come on you are trying to start something out of nothing. He is not as good as Faulk I think anyone with any football knowledge at all knows he should improve with time. But that dont mean he will ever be a Marshal Faulk and some people here have said he is great already well I think he has a long way to go before we can say he is great. I am not back pedaling at all right now he is no Marshal Faulk and in my opinion will never reach the same plateau as far as being an all around back.

Remove him from your avatar if you are not gonna support him. He needs time to grow.

Just because I am not happy with his play don’t mean I don’t support him. You can be unhappy and critical of some ones play and still not give up on them. I thought highly of him coming in, I thought he could take it inside or out and I am finding out he is strictly an inside runner. I cant believe all the people that want to say after he has 1 or 2 good games in a row that he is a great player he has not even finished one season as a starter. I am not sold yet on him as a running back 12 carries 6 yards and 2 QB assassinations do not impress me. Like you said he will have good games and bad games and we will not be able to judge the final product for at least another year. In the mean time I don’t think you have an argument for saying that he is a Marshal Faulk.
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[RamsFan16]

Awesome! Jerome Carter is starting and playing the whole game its about time. Hopefully he shows arch up. And Hopefully Fitz plays!

[txramsfan]

Everyone, no need to be the spelling police around here. It's not that important. The things that are most important at ClanRam are:

1. Have fun
2. State your opinion without taking shots at anyone inparticular on the board
3. Did I mention have fun?

[RamJackson39]

I am not back pedaling at all right now he is no Marshal Faulk and in my opinion will never reach the same plateau as far as being an all around back.

Well, obviously we should cut him then. How dare the Rams not sign the second coming of the greatest all around back of all time. Seriously, this is pathetic. The guy had two carries in the 2nd half. 2! I dont care what he did in the second half. The Eagles shut down LT, but he was still getting carries going into the 4th quarter. Jackson does everything he can out there. He is a big running back with good speed. He needs a little hole to run through and then he's gone. He's going to be a great back, you just have to support him.

[LaRamsFanLongTime]

In the mean time I don’t think you have an argument for saying that he is a Marshal Faulk.

I do not beleive I have ever stated he is. I beleive my opinion has been clearly stated that this early comparison between the two is not exactly a good one. As matter of fact I think it is idiotic, moronic, unintelligent, and assinine.

Let me start off by saying how long have you been a football fan?

Yawn, Let me start off by saying that line has not only been used a million times but it was not cleaver the first time it was used.

Please start spelling defence defense you continue to misspell the word.

This is usually the first sign that someone has become unable to process the arguments set forth by another member.

Come on you are trying to start something out of nothing. He is not as good as Faulk I think anyone with any football knowledge at all knows he should improve with time. But that dont mean he will ever be a Marshal Faulk and some people here have said he is great already well I think he has a long way to go before we can say he is great. I am not back pedaling at all right now he is no Marshal Faulk and in my opinion will never reach the same plateau as far as being an all around back.

He is not an all around back he is a pound through the defence back always will be.

You are arguing to me that he is not as great as Faulk right now. I have never disputed that I have merely stated that comparing him to Faulk at this point is not fair to the young man.Am I wrong about that?

Originally Posted by RamJackson39

Well, obviously we should cut him then. How dare the Rams not sign the second coming of the greatest all around back of all time. Seriously, this is pathetic.

I will say it again for the ones who are not listening I thought highly of him coming into the season his play has downgrade my opinion of what he can do. He is young and I still think it was a good pick in the draft regardless of what happens. I think it’s extremely early for people to say he is great at this point in his career. He is young and has a lot of holes in his game that he needs to work on. I think it will take him some time to be the best back he can be. But for anyone to think he is comparable to Faulk who was one of the greatest all around backs of all time is asinine.

Side note: Maybe both of you should ditch your Faulk avatar and go with Jackson. Jackson represents our future good or bad that is why he is my avatar.