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    Re: Offensive linemen aren't as good as they used to be ..

    Quote Originally Posted by bradwill View Post
    The quality of OL will improve as colleges move away from the gimmicky "spread offense" because college football trends the way the NFL does, and right now, the NFL pukes on players from spread offenses and downgrades them. This creates the ripple effect where the most elite prospects go somewhere else than teams that embrace the spread offense. It's all self-correcting.
    I think spread is not gonna disappeared in college, when you have better athletes on your team, spread is a very effective offense, thanks to QB dual threat. I only see big school tending to pro offense.

    Very interesting thread by the way !

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    Re: Offensive linemen aren't as good as they used to be ..

    Great article, interesting topic! Thanks Maui.

    No doubt, the NFL has evolved over the decades. When I was a teenager fan, many OL around the league weighed in at only 220, 270 lbs. Generally speaking they were TOUGH, tough as nails. In contrast, just look at today's 300+ centers, guards and tackles, including our newly acquired Ty Nsekhe, a little giant at an imposing 6-8" 325 lbs. Not saying they are not tough, just bigger though not necessarily better.

    The football gear, rules and techniques evolved, of course, but even if I'm biased to some old school football (and I am biased), I still miss that traditional importance and physical presence that OL used to have in the trenches. The physical training has improved nowadays [it has, yes?] and equipment and nutrition are a real science. Even Gatorade improved.


    But while some exceptions must be honored and respected, that main title does bears truth:

    Offensive linemen aren't as good as they used to be...

    No, it's not exactly the same when YouTube viewers say, "Old music rules, today's sounds suck!"

    To reminisce on some of our fine OL of the past that are mentioned already above I'm posting them here, from the Championship Team of 1951 up to SB XXXIV. Notice the stance of some of these old and venerable Rams in the pictures, and how they gradually became larger OL...


    Dick Daugherty, Rams C / G 1951-53, '56-58: 6-1" 220 lbs.
    Leon McLaughlin, Rams C 1951-55: 6-2" 230 lbs.
    Charlie Toogood, Rams G /T 1951-56: 6-0" 235 lbs.
    Bobby Cross (No. 73 attached), Rams T 1955-56: 6-4" 250 lbs.
    Bob Fry, Rams T 1953-'59: 6-4" 235 lbs.
    Joe Carollo, (No. 63 attached) Rams T 1962-68, '71: 6-2" 262lbs.
    Don Chuy, (No. 62 attached) Rams G 1963-68: 6-1' 255 lbs.
    Charlie Cowan, (No. 73 attached) Rams G / T 1961-75: 6-4" 265 lbs., one of my favorite OL.
    Joe Scibelli, Rams G 1961-75: 6-1" 260 lbs., another favorite OL of mine.
    Ken Iman, Rams C 1965-74: 6-1" 240 lbs., played w/us 10 strong years but it seemed like 20.
    Tom Mack (HOF), Rams G 1966-78: 6-3" 250 lbs.
    Bob Brown (HOF), Rams T 1969-70: 6-4" 285 lbs. 'Wish he had played a few more years with us.
    Rich Saul, Rams C / G 1970-82: 6-3" 245 lbs.
    John Williams, Rams G / T 1972-79: 6-3" 257 lbs.
    Dennis Harrah, Rams G 1975-87: 6-5" 260 lbs.
    Kent Hill, Rams G 1979-86: 6-5" 260 lbs.
    Jackie Slater (HOF), Rams T 1975-1995: 6-4" 285 lbs., from good to great. 20 years!
    Doug Smith, Rams C / G 1978-91: 6-3" 260 lbs.
    Irv Pankey, Rams G / T 1980-90: 6-4" 280 lbs.
    Bern Brostek, Rams C / G 1990-97: 6-3" 300 lbs.
    Orlando Pace, Rams T 1997-08: 6-7" 325 lbs.
    Andy McCullum, Rams C 1999-07: 6-4" 300 lbs.
    Tom Nütten, Rams G 1998-05: 6-5" 300 lbs.
    Adam Timmerman, Rams T 1999-06: 6-4" 300 lbs.
    Ryan Tucker, Rams T 1997-05: 6-5" 310 lbs.




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    Ken Iman followed by Bob Brown
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    Rich Saul, John Williams, and Dennis Harrah

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    Kent Hill and HOFamer Jackie Slater

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    Bern Brostek and Orlando Pace




    Andy McCollum, Tom Nütten, and Adam Timmerman. Below with No. 50, tackle Ryan Tucker followed by current Rams guard Harvey Dahl (No. 62), modern type of big OL: 6-5" 310 lbs.

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    Re: Offensive linemen aren't as good as they used to be ..

    This beckons the question: Who do you think would be our best OL from the current roster?

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    Re: Offensive linemen aren't as good as they used to be ..

    Dahl, easy.
    I believe!

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    Re: Offensive linemen aren't as good as they used to be ..

    Quote Originally Posted by TekeRam View Post
    Dahl, easy.
    You got it Teke -- Harvey it is! I added him to our selection of OL above because yes, I agree, he probably is the best we have right now with toughness, size and attitude. I hope he will be part of an improving squad for the Rams. Starting NOW.


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