No, but the Stl Cardinal data shows that Stl will bail on a team when it goes bad.... just like any city that knows it's losing it's franchise. Apparently, they're as much a bunch of bandwaggoners as anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by gap
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No, but the Stl Cardinal data shows that Stl will bail on a team when it goes bad.... just like any city that knows it's losing it's franchise. Apparently, they're as much a bunch of bandwaggoners as anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by gap
Well, so much for LA Rammer's dream of no more animosity. That lasted all of a few minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMFANRAIDERHATER
No animosity at all. Just stating a point.
How about some facts behind said point....Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMFANRAIDERHATER
Edit: when have the Cardinals not been either at, above, or pretty close to the N.L. average in attendance? I guarantee you can't answer that because it hasn't happened. Before you go throwing Cards fans under the bus make sure your bus has wheels.....
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Originally Posted by sjacksonrules
NFL
1983 - 54,364
1984 - 55,528
1985 - 55,408
1986 - 56,872
1987 - 48,639
STL Cards Avg
1983 - 39,174
1984 - 46,519
1985 - 40,669
1986 - 35,548
1987 - 27,821
LA Rams Avg
1983 - 52,870
1984 - 54,455
1985 - 56,242
1986 - 59,285
1987 - 47,356
Rams close, beat avg in 1984 -- Cardinals, not so much
An animus opinion, or as you say, point.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAMFANRAIDERHATER
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Originally Posted by sjacksonrules
The point he was making is the the Cards in St Louis were never close to NFL average. I am pretty sure that Busch Stadium, in its football configuration, couldn't reach the NFL average if it was sold out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth
The point I was making about dividing LA totals by 4 was in response to most LA supporters saying LA is a better market because it is 4 times larger than St Louis. The way I look at it, if they are a better market because of that size, the "support" would have to be divided by 4 to compare with St Louis' "support". And when you compare "support" per capita, St Louis provides better "support" than LA.
And so far, St Louis has "bailed" on the RAMS a WHOLE LOT less than LA did. You cannot compare St Louis bailing in the Cards with LA bailing on the RAMs because they are two separate teams. And St Louis has had three more years of pathetic than LA did. Can you imagine how pathetic attendance would have been in LA if the RAMS had another 3 years there? They'd probably have ahd to pay people in LA to come to the stadium.
gap
And to be truly fair, here's the Rams attendance over the past 5 years:Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth
2007 - 64,294
2008 - 59,980
2009 - 55,237
2010 - 52,922
2011 - 56,394
But HUb, that can't be right. That means this horrible Rams team has managed 57,765 fans per home game over these 5 miserable past years. The Rams final 5 years in LA they only averaged 49,606. And during their playoff run in the 80's (w/o the strike '87 year) they averaged 55,713. I thought the St. Louis fans were supposed to be a bunch of fair-weather bandwaggoners that ditch their team if they don't play well?
Well, it just goes to show......sometimes popular perception has nothing to do with reality.
Fans in most cities are rather fickle. Attendance will drop in almost any city if the team is losing on a regular basis. However, the upside in a market the size of L.A. is significantly better than in STL. Having a good team in L.A. would also make the team worth more than a good team in STL. Bad teams are just an issue anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by gap
The Cards averaged 37,946 in their last 5 years in STL. Since L.A. had no team from 2007-2011, those numbers are rather pointless as a comparison. I expect next season attendance to be pretty good as well. At least I hope it is. However, if a new deal with the CVC isn't reached, or the team decides to move, I think the Rams would be lucky to get the 37K plus that the Cards got. All numbers aside, what I really want is for the Rams to become a consistantly good team, no matter where they call home.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUbison
Somethings going on Aeg is going to make a bid for superbowl 50. They must have a team lined up to come to L.A.
so is dallas, and they have a stadium. piss off mate.
Its pretty pathetic that people call STL fan bandwagon fans EVEN THOUGH WE ROOT FOR THE SAME TEAM.
God damn get over yourselves people we all root for the same team why doesnt everyone just be honest and admit that they still have their panties in a bunch over their beloved team moving. Therefore they irrationally take it it out on fans who ironically cheer for the same team.
Pathetic, shouldnt we be on the same side?
taken from SBNation Newsletters
"...In a Thursday interview with Bob Costas, NFL Commissioner Rodger Goodell told the host that the league would most likely expand by two teams if they moved into the Los Angeles market. He also told Costas that the league wants to keep teams where they are. In his Friday press conference in Indianapolis, Goodell recited similar talking points in relation to the St. Louis Rams, but softened his stance on the expansion talk. Specifically, Goodell said that the league has not discussed expansion. He added that he doesn't see expansion happening in the foreseeable future, but did note a ten-year window to make something happen for the NFL in LA..."
If Goodell said this, I can imagine he got some pretty angry calls from owners trying to negotiate stadium issues as well as a call from AEG thanking him for his support in getting a stadium built as soon as possible. I certainly wouldn't want this guy on my negotiating team.
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And I agree 100% with item number 3!
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Originally Posted by RamingtoLA
The NFL was actually toying with the idea of having the 50th anniversary Super Bowl in the LA Coliseum too.