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    Re: OFFICIAL (and only) "Rams to L.A." Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFanSam View Post
    "And seeing as the Rams and St. Louis are about $600 million apart on how much the city, county and state should chip in for a new stadium, Kroenke's interest in L.A. should not be underestimated," the Times reports.

    Rumors. Gotta love 'em...

    Considering that it would take over a billion dollars to build a decent stadium in LA, plus the higher taxes, I don't see it happening.

    I really love how people get all worked up because a land developer looks into buying...wait for it....

    LAND.
    Here are some interesting concepts being floated that could make it possible for any team to move to LA.

    NFL wants back in L.A, but questions must be answered first

    By Sam Farmer

    After 19 years of dead ends, the NFL is taking another run at returning to Los Angeles. Solving that riddle will require some creative thinking and possibly an outside-the-box approach.

    The league is evaluating various sites in the L.A. area and looking into alternative financing models for a stadium, including paying for one itself as opposed to having an individual owner foot the bill.

    "Whatever gets us a team in L.A., that would be awesome," said New England's Robert Kraft, among the league's most influential owners. "That might be the solution. Whatever it takes, I know I'd be willing to support."
    Whatever gets us a team in L.A., that would be awesome. ... Whatever it takes, I know I'd be willing to support. - Robert Kraft, New England Patriots owner

    How might the league approach the situation differently? Here are some answers to the primary questions:

    What are the two main financing scenarios?

    In the first, a club has a stadium site and concept in mind, puts together a financing plan and looks to the league for help. The NFL helps pay for the venue but also assesses a hefty relocation fee. The club then has full control of the stadium.


    In the second, the league pays for the stadium, offsetting that $1-billion-plus investment by selling naming rights, personal seat licenses (PSLs) and the like. That becomes the home of one or two teams (perhaps to be named later), who don't have the astronomical cost of a stadium on their books. In theory, the relocation fee would be smaller because the NFL benefits from those sponsorship sales.

    Why would a team want to have a stadium that's owned by the league?

    That's the pivotal question, and there are a lot of owners who wouldn't want Big Brother as a landlord. That said, the NFL could make it more enticing by giving tenants control of key revenue streams such as sales of suites, club and general admission seats, local sponsorship and advertising, parking and the like. The challenge for the league would be making the deal attractive enough.



    If all 32 teams are sharing in the revenue that stadium generates, those teams would probably push to hold major events there. For instance, the NFL has searched for ways to revamp (and pump interest) into the Pro Bowl. What if that annual event were staged at the league's stadium in L.A.? The league is already considering holding the 2015 draft in L.A. What about moving the scouting combine there? A West Coast hub of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, perhaps? And it's not a reach to think the league might want to relocate the NFL Network and NFL.com to an eventual L.A. stadium, if one ever happens.

    Who would play there?

    When the Raiders and Rams left LA, the LA market got much better TV games. When we had both teams, and they both stunk, we were screwed. First, the rule is that when your local team is on the road, that game must be broadcast to the local market. Second, there is the silly rule that when a team...


    As soon as a team tips its hand that it's leaving, it's dead in its current market. In theory, the NFL could build a stadium without naming the teams that might play there until the last minute, thereby avoiding a lame-duck season. As it is, there's a very tight window for a team to announce it's relocating from mid-January through February precisely because the team would need time to sell season tickets in its new market. But were it a league-owned stadium, the NFL could start moving dirt at any time and simply say, "Stay tuned."

    Is there another potential revenue stream out there, one the league might harness to finance a stadium?


    Yes, Super Bowl PSLs. This idea has been floating around for years, and it's only a matter of time before it happens. If and when the league establishes a regular rotation of Super Bowl sites and it's reexamining how it currently awards cities the marquee game it can start selling seats years in advance. Well, the rights to seats, anyway. For instance, if L.A. were promised four Super Bowls in 20 years, the league could tell fans, "Pay X-thousand dollars now, and you will have the right to buy a face-value ticket for this seat for all four of those Super Bowls." You may not like it, and it's going to be pricey, but there's a good chance that's eventually going to happen.

    Why would the league want to be back in L.A., anyway?

    This market has already lost two teams, and three if you count the short-lived L.A. Chargers. In that sense, it's about as rock-solid reliable as a Hollywood marriage.

    Then again, how well managed were the L.A. Raiders and Rams? At the same time those teams were struggling in Southern California, the New England Patriots were failing in Massachusetts. The Saints were always a mess in New Orleans, and they became hugely profitable with the same owner at the helm. The Seahawks were gasping for air in Seattle and even briefly moved to Anaheim before Paul Allen rebranded them.

    The NFL says it wants to be back in L.A. The real question is, how much?


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    Re: OFFICIAL (and only) "Rams to L.A." Thread

    There are 13 smaller metros thn St Lois that have NFL teams. Looks like St Louis is in the same state that this author says New England, New Orleans, and Seattle were in before their big turnarounds. If the Rams stay and break the 10 year non-winning season streak, in a few years we may look back and shake our heads that anyone would have thought a city withas much success and as rabid fans as St Louis could have been a move candidate, just as we this piece does with Seattle, New England, and New Orleans now. Why doesn't the NFL just expand and not go through another big round of musical teams.
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    Re: OFFICIAL (and only) "Rams to L.A." Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by zgare View Post
    There are 13 smaller metros thn St Lois that have NFL teams. Looks like St Louis is in the same state that this author says New England, New Orleans, and Seattle were in before their big turnarounds. If the Rams stay and break the 10 year non-winning season streak, in a few years we may look back and shake our heads that anyone would have thought a city withas much success and as rabid fans as St Louis could have been a move candidate, just as we this piece does with Seattle, New England, and New Orleans now. Why doesn't the NFL just expand and not go through another big round of musical teams.
    L.A. could have four teams if one of them wasnt the Rams there would still be people saying bring the Rams back.

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    I personally think the Rams should move to Tampa(or maybe Orlando)! That way I can get season tickets and then watch every away game on TV!

    Honestly I could care less where or if they move. Regardless I will be a fan. I was fan of the LA Rams and stayed a fan of the St. Louis Rams.
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    Re: OFFICIAL (and only) "Rams to L.A." Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by svh01 View Post

    Honestly I could care less where or if they move. Regardless I will be a fan. I was fan of the LA Rams and stayed a fan of the St. Louis Rams.
    I agree, except I could not care less where the Rams play.


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    Re: OFFICIAL (and only) "Rams to L.A." Thread

    Why doesn't the NFL just expand and not go through another big round of musical teams.

    Thirty-two is as big as you want to get. Eight four team divisions makes scheduling a piece of cake.

    Expanding the league waters down the talent even further.

    Size of metro area is only one of many factors to determine a team's value in today's profit driven NFL. If we want to go with the "there are X cities with smaller metro areas" we could look at all the metro areas larger than Green Bay, and have teams in Hartford, Columbus, Toledo, Grand Rapids, Boise and Tulsa.

    My family was moving this week from Wisconsin to Georgia. En route, we stopped at a truck stop in southern Illinois, less than 100 miles from St. Louis. Shirts and memorabilia from a dozen teams were on display. The Rams were not included.
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