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    OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    As we all know, the Rams were shut out for the first time since the 1998 season, losing to Miami 14-0.

    Here's where things get weird: The very next game was AT HOME against the WHINERS!

    The Rams lost that one 28-10. What will be different, and what histories shall be doomed to be repeated?

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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    oh great .................

    Thanks MOM

    Thats almost as bad as me telling everyone that our slump is exactly the same as the last on in 95


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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    Yeah, Dez, I know. I live with her....now you understand why I have high blood pressure.

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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    Wow, thanks for the intelligent conversation, boys! I know that I, for one, am now highly enlightened!

    Now, let me get to what the intent of the thread was while giving the two of you "The Look".

    What my intent was is this:

    One difference between that game and the one coming up are: and we fill in the blanks, with additional comments that are deemed fit and relevant to the topic at hand. For example:

    Tony Banks was nowhere near as accurate as Bulger, nor could he protect the ball as well. Also, Alex Smith is no Steve Young.

    Holy crapoly, a POSITIVE. See whre I am going now?

    SHEESH!
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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    I really am a "glass is half-full" kind of guy, but quite honestly, I would not be shocked at the same score.

    I WILL however, be watching and screaming - same as always.

    AV said it: if we stack the box and actually STOP the (bleeding) run, we'll win, 'cuz Smith just isn't that good yet.

    I'm all about being pleasantly surprised.
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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    28-10 :\ is kind of depressing. I kind of have a feeling that the score is going to be the same again.....but this time its going to be the Rams 28-10 . Then we go on a big winning streak and finish the season strong.
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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by sprtsmac View Post
    28-10 :\ is kind of depressing. I kind of have a feeling that the score is going to be the same again.....but this time its going to be the Rams 28-10 . Then we go on a big winning streak and finish the season strong.

    You know something? I think it could happen! Here's some stuff to back up that hypothesis:

    Here are the stats from that game 8 years ago:

    San Francisco ***** 28,
    St. Louis Rams 10


    San Francisco 14 0 7 7 -- 28
    St. Louis 0 3 0 7 -- 10

    First Quarter
    SF--J.Rice 12 pass from S.Young (W.Richey kick), 0:27.
    SF--I.Smith 2 pass from S.Young (W.Richey kick), 12:54.
    Second Quarter
    StL--FG J.Wilkins 46, 14:13.
    Third Quarter
    SF--T.Owens 27 pass from S.Young (W.Richey kick), 12:53.
    Fourth Quarter
    StL--T.Banks 6 run (J.Wilkins kick), 3:16.
    SF--T.Owens 21 run (W.Richey kick), 3:35.
    A--58,563.

    SF STL
    FIRST DOWNS 16 15
    Rushing 6 6
    Passing 10 8
    Penalty 0 1
    3RD-DOWN EFFICIENCY 5-13 7-17
    4TH-DOWN EFFICIENCY 0-0 1-1
    TOTAL NET YARDS 303 168
    Total Plays 57 67
    Average Gain 5.3 2.5
    NET YARDS RUSHING 93 79
    Rushes 30 24
    Average per Rush 3.1 3.3
    NET YARDS PASSING 210 89
    Completed - Attempted 13-24 15-35
    Yards per Pass 7.8 2.1
    Sacked - Yards Lost 3-17 8-32
    Had Intercepted 2 3
    PUNTS-AVERAGE 7-40.9 8-43.1
    RETURN YARDAGE 59 99
    Punt Returns - Yards 4--7 4-2
    Kickoff Returns - Yards 2-30 3-67
    Int. Returns - Yards 3-36 2-30
    PENALTIES-YARDS 9-59 4-28
    FUMBLES-LOST 1-0 2-1
    TIME OF POSSESSION 29:42 30:18

    INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS
    RUSHING --
    SF: G.Hearst 20-58, T.Owens 1-21, M.Edwards 1-7, S.Young 5-5, C.Levy 3-2.
    STL: T.Banks 6-21, A.Lee 4-19, J.Moore 1-18, R.Holcombe 12-18, D.Harris 1-3.
    PASSING --
    SF: S.Young 13-24-2-227.
    STL: T.Banks 15-35-3-121.
    RECEIVING --
    SF: T.Owens 5-120, J.Rice 4-64, I.Uwaezuoke 1-35, G.Hearst 1-4, M.Edwards 1-2, I.Smith 1-2..
    STL: R.Proehl 6-69, J.Thomas 3-18, E.Conwell 3-17, J.Henley 2-9, R.Holcombe 1-8.



    Now, if you look at the average per gain, you will see that back then, 2.5 yards per play was all that could be mustered. Also, you will see that Tony Banks was picked off THREE times. Also, the Whiners had Steve Young and Jerry Rice. Now, they rely on a second year QB, and Antonio Bryant, who now has a DWI arrest to deal with. We now have Bulger, who has only been picked off three times in TEN games, and in the Whiners game in Week 2, the offense gained 6.5 yards per play, a whole 4 yards better. Per Play. When you multiply that by an average 60 play game, that's 240 extra yards.

    Another interesting stat you will see is that in the 1998 game, Banks was sacked 8 times that game, but what you might be surprised to see how many times Bulger was sacked in Week 2.

    Now, Tony Banks had, in his three seasons as a Ram, 54.33% accuracy. Bulger, in his first three years, 64.63%. Banks had an average of 12 TDs and 14 INTs. Bulger also averaged 14 INTs in his first three seasons, but averaged 19 TDs. Yardage, you ask? Banks- 2777.67. Bulger- 3211.67

    The only upside Banks has on Bulger (I know, it makes me cringe, too), is that he was more mobile. The numbers for Banks shows that. In his first three years, he rushed an average of 49.33 times for 184.67 yards, or 3.74 yards per carry. Bulger had, in the same period of time, 20 rushes average for 50.33 yards, or 2.67 yards per carry.


    Here are the numbers from 2006, week 2:

    San Francisco ***** 20,
    St. Louis Rams 13


    St. Louis 0 10 0 3 -- 13
    San Francisco 3 0 14 3 -- 20

    First Quarter
    SF--FG J.Nedney 32, 6:05.
    Second Quarter
    StL--FG J.Wilkins 49, 7:15.
    StL--T.Holt 3 pass from M.Bulger (J.Wilkins kick), 12:44.
    Third Quarter
    SF--F.Gore 32 run (J.Nedney kick), 0:55.
    SF--A.Bryant 72 pass from A.Smith (J.Nedney kick), 4:17.
    Fourth Quarter
    StL--FG J.Wilkins 40, 3:57.
    SF--FG J.Nedney 20, 9:40.
    A--67,791.

    STL SF
    FIRST DOWNS 17 14
    Rushing 5 5
    Passing 11 9
    Penalty 1 0
    3RD-DOWN EFFICIENCY 7-17 4-12
    4TH-DOWN EFFICIENCY 1-1 0-0
    TOTAL NET YARDS 265 360
    Total Plays 68 55
    Average Gain 3.9 6.5
    NET YARDS RUSHING 118 127
    Rushes 28 33
    Average per Rush 4.2 3.8
    NET YARDS PASSING 147 233
    Completed - Attempted 19-34 11-22
    Yards per Pass 3.7 10.6
    Sacked - Yards Lost 6-38 0-0
    Had Intercepted 0 0
    PUNTS-AVERAGE 5-43.2 4-45.0
    RETURN YARDAGE 149 104
    Punt Returns - Yards 1-30 1-7
    Kickoff Returns - Yards 5-119 3-97
    Int. Returns - Yards 0-0 0-0
    PENALTIES-YARDS 6-40 2-20
    FUMBLES-LOST 1-1 1-1
    TIME OF POSSESSION 34:37 25:23

    INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS
    RUSHING --
    STL: S.Jackson 22-103, S.Davis 5-16, M.Bulger 1-(-1).
    SF: F.Gore 29-127, M.Robinson 1-1, A.Smith 3-(-1).
    PASSING --
    STL: M.Bulger 19-34-0-185.
    SF: A.Smith 11-22-0-233.
    RECEIVING --
    STL: I.Bruce 5-77, T.Holt 5-30, K.Curtis 3-13, J.Klopfenstein 2-34, S.Jackson 2-21, S.McDonald 1-8, S.Davis 1-2.
    SF: A.Bryant 4-131, A.Battle 3-78, F.Gore 2-10, B.Gilmore 1-14, C.Hetherington 1-0.
    MISSED FIELD GOALS --
    STL: J.Wilkins 46.
    SF: J.Nedney 46.


    Did you see the magic number I said earlier would surprise you? Yep, that's right. It was zero.

    (Banks era) 1998 vs. (Bulger era) 2006: Advantage- 2006

    If anyone would like to break down another position, feel free.
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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by sprtsmac View Post
    28-10 :\ is kind of depressing. I kind of have a feeling that the score is going to be the same again.....but this time its going to be the Rams 28-10 . Then we go on a big winning streak and finish the season strong.
    I like this sprtsmac guy!

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    Re: OK, here's a good one to ponder...

    Quote Originally Posted by MOM View Post
    Wow, thanks for the intelligent conversation, boys! I know that I, for one, am now highly enlightened!

    Now, let me get to what the intent of the thread was while giving the two of you "The Look".

    What my intent was is this:

    One difference between that game and the one coming up are: and we fill in the blanks, with additional comments that are deemed fit and relevant to the topic at hand. For example:

    Tony Banks was nowhere near as accurate as Bulger, nor could he protect the ball as well. Also, Alex Smith is no Steve Young.

    Holy crapoly, a POSITIVE. See whre I am going now?

    SHEESH!
    It all rests with the O line and D line. If they show up and actually earn their pay this week then it's a win.
    JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS


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