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    Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    By Jim Thomas
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    Thursday, Sep. 09 2004

    There may be no way to close the negotiating - and monetary - gap between
    Orlando Pace and the Rams. But at least Pace has learned to make the most of
    his time away from the Rams in terms of conditioning.

    "I feel light years better than I did last year," Pace said Thursday. "Just
    losing about 20 pounds. I feel a lot quicker, a lot fresher."

    Pace reported at 325 pounds Sunday, about 20 pounds lighter than last season,
    when he also boycotted all team activities and skipped training camp in a
    contract impasse. After his initial practices last season, Pace felt winded.
    Three practices into his 2004 season, that hasn't been the case.

    "I feel great," Pace said. "Compared to last year, it's like night and day.
    After taking a few reps, you're a little winded as everybody is, but not nearly
    as bad as last year."

    Pace trained a little differently this offseason, but the major factor in his
    improved conditioning was an improved diet.

    "I cut down on my fried foods," Pace said. "I tried to cut down on my soda, and
    things like that."

    Even at the heavier weight last year, Pace played surprisingly well at the
    start of the season. So in theory, he could be even more impressive in his
    trimmer, better-conditioned state.

    "I watched (practice) tape, and it looks like he's been here all camp," coach
    Mike Martz said. "Honest to goodness it does. No mental errors. He's quick.
    He's physical. ... He's not sluggish.

    "At this time last year, he was very sluggish. The conditioning was a factor
    for him last year. So I'm very pleased with where he is. He's obviously been
    very conscientious about being in shape and ready to go, and it's much
    appreciated by all of us."

    If only things could go as smoothly on the negotiating front.

    "I'm always hoping that they can get a deal done - for security reasons, and
    things like that," Pace said. "The possibility's still there. But I think at
    the end of the year, they'll try to hammer something out, or else I'll be
    franchised again."

    Pace's "end-of-the-year" comment was curious, because now that he has signed
    the one-year, $7.02 million tender offer, the sides actually can begin
    negotiating again.

    Under league rule, any talks came to a halt following a March 17 negotiating
    deadline. Since Sunday, when Pace signed the tender, the sides can talk again.

    A few weeks after the Rams' playoff loss to Carolina on Jan. 10, the Rams
    offered Pace a seven-year, $42 million contract that included a
    franchise-record $13 million signing bonus. Pace's agent, Carl Poston,
    countered with a seven-year, $71 million offer that included a $27 million
    signing bonus and $34 million in guaranteed money.

    In March, when word leaked that the Rams would be willing to up Pace's signing
    bonus to $16 million or $17 million, Pace told the Post-Dispatch: "If what was
    written is true ... I think we can get something done."

    Pace also strongly hinted that he might change agents, saying at the time:
    "There will probably be some changes in the future."

    On the final day before the negotiating blackout kicked in, Poston sent a
    revised offer of seven years, $66 million to the Rams, including a $23 million
    signing bonus. But the Rams received it literally minutes before the deadline -
    far too late to react, or revise their offer.

    On Thursday, in his first question-and-answer session with reporters since the
    end of the '03 season, Pace was asked if a $16 million or $17 million signing
    bonus would still get it done.

    "I don't know," Pace said. "We'll have to see during the course of the year.
    There's a lot of things that take place during the course of a year. Salary
    cap, and those type of things. I'll leave that up to my people to handle, and
    we'll go from there."

    Pace also indicated that the Postons - Carl and his brother Kevin - remain his
    agents.

    "I always have confidence in the people that represent me," Pace said. "They're
    professionals in what they do. They have to get the most for their clients. So
    we just have to continue to work and try to hammer something out."

    But Pace also stressed that he's in control of negotiations, not the Postons.

    "Hey, they work for me," Pace said. "That's the bottom line. So whatever
    situation we're in, and how it's handled, and things like that - I make the
    call on that."

    Pace said he boycotted team activities and training camp for the second year in
    a row because "it was the only move I really had as far as when you're
    franchised."

    Technically, Pace wasn't a "holdout" because he wasn't under contract. But the
    effect was the same because of his absence. Pace also said he had a
    predetermined time in mind all along as to when he would report.

    As for taking heat from fans because of his prolonged absence, Pace said he
    tried to stay clear of encounters with fans during the offseason. What about
    media criticism?

    "You guys are going to do your job, and you have to report what you guys
    report," Pace said. "But I have to move on. And really, the bottom line is what
    matters in this locker room, and how the guys feel in here. They're happy to
    see me, and happy that I'm back on the team."


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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    But Pace also stressed that he's in control of negotiations, not the Postons.
    Which is exactly what they told you to say, huh big guy.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    it was the only move I really had as far as when you're
    franchised.
    Anybody else sick of hearing this BS? Seems to me like Julian Peterson managed to pull himself into camp a week before the second preseason game. Didn't Woodson do the same?

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    All I heard was

    BLA BLA BLA BLA ME ME BLA ME BLA ME


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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    I'll leave that up to my people to handle, and we'll go from there.
    So whatever situation we're in, and how it's handled, and things like that - I make the
    call on that.
    So, which one is it?

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    On the final day before the negotiating blackout kicked in, Poston sent a revised offer of seven years, $66 million to the Rams, including a $23 million
    signing bonus. But the Rams received it literally minutes before the deadline -
    far too late to react, or revise their offer.
    This is an example of incompetence, bad-faith negotiations, or both. It is completely unreasonable to expect anyone to consider anything with virtually no notice.

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    He's practicing, he's on the team, and the only ones who are belly aching are the fans.

    Again, Pace won't be our problem. I'll bet anyone some Texas BBQ on it....

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    Whatcha BBQing TX? :redface:
    JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS


    "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    bla bla bla, thats all I heard I swear well apart from the BBQ stuff ......... mmmm better get in there before fatty


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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    As the Horns get ready to take the hairybacks to the woodshed tomorrow, we will have:

    Brisket
    Pork Ribs
    Pork Loin
    Beef Ribs

    and maybe, maybe a vegetable.....but I don't want to ruin the BBQ... LOL

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    I think there's some tomato in the sauce. That's a vegetable, right?

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    I think there's some tomato in the sauce. That's a vegetable, right?
    Uh, no. Tomato is a fruit.

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    I was wondering which wise guy would be the first with that response. I guess I'm not surprised who it was. :redface:

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan
    He's practicing, he's on the team, and the only ones who are belly aching are the fans.

    Again, Pace won't be our problem. I'll bet anyone some Texas BBQ on it....
    I don't think there is anyone who isn't happy to have Pace in active status, but you've got to admit his pandering to the media about wanting to "get something done" and "staying out of camp was his only leverage" and "it's up to my agents..er..I mean..I'm in charge" is getting a little old.

    I'm not saying get rid of him, by no means should we get rid of him. I just don't care for the excuses. If he's going to say anything (which he shouldn't, he doesn't owe us an explanation), just say that he didn't want to go to camp and move on.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: Pace weighs in on his stance in contract talks

    Quote Originally Posted by txramsfan
    As the Horns get ready to take the hairybacks to the woodshed tomorrow, we will have:

    Brisket
    Pork Ribs
    Pork Loin
    Beef Ribs

    and maybe, maybe a vegetable.....but I don't want to ruin the BBQ... LOL

    What, no bird on the menu?

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