PFT.com: Martz, Armey out after '04?

**Nick** · #1 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

"In St. Louis, the situation is slightly different. Word is that, if the Rams underachieve again this season, it'll be the end of the line for either coach Mike Martz or G.M. Charley Armey.

Rumors have persisted for years that Martz and Armey don't see eye to eye. Martz did little to quell such talk by insisting upon final say over personnel, a duty typically referred to General Manager types.

Regardless, the Rams generally have underachieved since Martz inherited the head-coaching gig from Dick Vermeil after the 1999 season. Martz has now had four chances to duplicate Dick's Super Bowl win, and it's not out of the question to conclude that Martz won't get many more before getting bounced."

Now really...

**RamWraith** · #2 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

what a bunch of crap! I will be very disappointed if they make any of them walk. Martz and Army have done fine given all the circumstances.

**AvengerRam** · #3 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

I propose a ban on all reposts of "articles" from PFT.com. They just make this stuff up. There's no place for their nonsense on a real football board.

#4 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

So what that they dont see eye to eye. Who cares. They are both contributing members of the organization. One guy running the entire operation makes no sense to me,there is simply to much involved. I think martz is a very valuable member of the organization, as are both ziggy and armey. Unlike many others, i also like shaw. As you might expect, my favorite front office guy is bob wallace, who is the rams general counsel. I am working on getting mr. wallace to sign an autograph for me, gc to gc!

ramming speed to all

general counsel

**evil disco man** · #5 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

Underachieved? UNDERACHIEVED??? Man, if some fans really believe that, they are too spoiled. Somehow having the best record in the league for the past five seasons doesn't exactly ring 'underachieved!' to me.

**txramsfan** · #6 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

I am up for installing a ban on all post from the National Enquirer of football, PFT. When I challenged them last year on a false story about the Rams, I got an email back from them basically saying go do something to myself.

Class acts huh....that site is worthless.

**RamDez** · #7 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

Or we can move them all to a new forum -- "pile of bilge" forum, frequented by those who have nothing better to do than play with themselves while making up stories to upset the suckers who tune into read the said bilge.

*tanus* · #8 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

im all for a new forum for this crap. we could call it the toilet or the bowl.

*ZigZagRam* · #9 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

Personally I think the articles from TheBrushback.com have more truth in them than those on PFT.com.

*ramstiles* · #10 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

So Dez your a celtic fan

**RamDez** · #11 (**permalink**) -17-08-2004

yes

best team in the UK