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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Were not all on the same side. Avengerram doesn't want to see the Rams win.
    Avenger wants the Rams to win as much as anyone here. Everyone here including you have a right to express his or her opinions. It's all good welcome.


    I think raiderh8rmike, nick and I should start a club. We seem to be the only ones (maybe a couple of others) who have a brain when it comes to Linehan.
    I think thats a great idea, Mike..Nick what say you.


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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsFan16 View Post
    Ok. So people complain when Jackon cuts back and doesn't hit the hole. And now, when he hits the whole they complain?

    He went where he was supposed to go, and was nothing, now if he cut back and got stuffed he's getting flamed for not hitting the hole.
    After I watched Marion Barber, also a big back at 6-0, 220, constantly take a draw play, see all the holes busted, then cut off-tackle for consistent 5+ yard gains last night, I am even more frustrated with SJ's ability to improvise ...

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Talk about a thread that's been derailed....
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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Then how did the Rams have 175 yards and 19 points in the first half?
    It's actually pretty easy to explain but first let's fix some of these numbers. The offense only scored 17 points, not 19, and we actually gained 180 first half yards. Never let it be said I'm not a fair guy, since I just gave you five additional yards of first-half offensive output.

    So right off the bat, let's consider that 53 of those 180 first half yards were gained on one running play that went for a touchdown. So other than that play, we gained 127 yards on 36 plays. At 3.52 yards per play, that's simply not good by any standard. It's actually nearly a yard less than our regular season yards per play average as of right now (4.4; NFL.com), which is second worst in the league.

    Additionally, look at how those 17 points were scored. As I said, seven of them came on one play, the first play of the second drive, where Jackson broke free for 53 yards. The other seven points came on a drive that started on the Seattle 30 yard line due to a turnover - amazing field position. The other three came off of our longest drive of the day, a 12-play series where we couldn't punch the ball into the endzone from the one yard line.

    Let's take a closer look though and go drive by drive in the first half to see how efficient the Rams were, though. Only four of our eight drives gained more than ten yards. And that's counting Jackson's one play 53-yard touchdown carry as a drive. So really, only three of seven multiple play drives went for more than ten yards. Only three of our seven multiple play drives were made up of more than three offensive plays. Five of our eight total first half offensive drives resulted in a change of possession - four via punt and one through interception.

    It seems that by bringing up the yardage and points from the first half, the implication is we were doing well offensively because yards were achieved and points were scored. But I don't see how someone can draw that conclusion if they go back and actually take a close look at how those numbers came about.

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    The reality is, even if your playbook is limited, as a playcaller you need to do 2 things (1) find the plays that have the best chance of working in light of the limitations
    Which Linehan did, IMO. I've pointed out numerous examples of plays in the second half where receivers were open and Gus simply missed the throw. It would seem to me that when you're calling plays where guys are getting open, you're giving your team a very good chance of succeeding. But the quarterback has to make the throw in order to achieve that success, and on more than one occasion in the second half, Gus did not.
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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    You tell him, Nick buddy! Avenger does not want to hear the truth. Linehan is a great coach. He is actually one of the best playcallers in the league. The team just sucks now. We need more talent so that Linehan can work his magic!

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Oh. So in the first half, Linehan did a great job calling plays, and the Rams executed/were lucky enough to get a lead. Then, in the second half, Linehan did an equally fantastic job of playcalling, only to be done in by bad luck and poor execution.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Oh. So in the first half, Linehan did a great job calling plays, and the Rams executed/were lucky enough to get a lead. Then, in the second half, Linehan did an equally fantastic job of playcalling, only to be done in by bad luck and poor execution.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Linefan View Post
    Of course, Linehan will get snatched up by another team and do great.
    Quick question for you, Linefan. What makes you think that Linehan will be hired by another team if/when the Rams let him go, and moreover, what makes you think that he'll "do great"?

    WHAT SAY YE?

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMarkable View Post
    Quick question for you, Linefan. What makes you think that Linehan will be hired by another team if/when the Rams let him go, and moreover, what makes you think that he'll "do great"?

    WHAT SAY YE?
    Linefan I would also like to hear the answer to these questions.

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Linefan View Post
    I think raiderh8rmike, nick and I should start a club.
    Maybe we should leave things at being in ClanRam.

    Nick, check the IP on Linefan, I'm convinced it's an Av alter ego.

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    I have sources that tell me that if he is fired he is at the top of a short list to take over in San Diego when they fire Norv Turner at the end of this season. He is also likely to be sought out in Baltimore and New York (Giants).

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    Maybe we should leave things at being in ClanRam.

    Nick, check the IP on Linefan, I'm convinced it's an Av alter ego.
    That's silly. Av doesn't have any alter egos.

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BernieM View Post
    That's silly. Av doesn't have any alter egos.
    Shut your fat gaping piehole, Bernie.

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    Okay, so we've figured it out. There's no problem with Linehan failing to meet the oppositions adjustments during games by mixing it up and staying aggressive until the end.

    Wait a second...

    What?

    Oh... okay.

    There's someone here who wants to weigh in on this:
    Itís definitely not physical. We practice hard and we train hard in the offseason and in the weight room throughout the season to maintain our bodies and our health. I guess you can say game planning. They are making adjustments and taking away some of our favorite plays from us. You canít put a finger on it because each team has its own scheme and what they are trying to take away in a game. We have to get that killer instinct as a competitor and whatever the odds are stacked against us we have to go out and finish a team.
    Thank you, Steven Jackson.

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    Re: Playcalling to blame for Seattle loss? No way ...

    "We have faith in him. He's working as hard as he can. We're not making plays for him. We're just not playing good right now. I don't think it's a lack of effort. It's just bad football."
    We appreciate your rebuttal, Marc Bulger.
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