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    Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Okay, so my New Year's resolution was obviously not to leave Bernie alone in 2006. Not when he comes up with gems like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blarney MrArse
    I would much prefer the 8th overall pick to the 11th.
    Why?
    Because I care about winning in the future, and ASAP.
    That's more important to me than the difference between 5-11 and 6-10 or a win over an emotionally flattened Dallas team.

    This may turn out to be meaningless; the Rams still may get the draft pick they want. But suppose they miss out on a guy who was an ideal fit at the 8th pick?

    That win at Dallas will seem very silly in retrospect.

    We've been down this road before.

    (See: Kennedy, Jimmie, 12th pick, 2003 draft).

    Surprised that memories are so short.
    If Bernie were to do just a bit of research (I spent all of 3 minutes doing so), he'd see that, historically, the 8th pick does not necessarily give a team a better player than the 11th. Here's a list from the past 10 drafts of defensive players taken at pick #8 or, if an offensive player was taken at that spot, the next defensive player taken, as compared to the best defensive player taken at pick 11 or later:

    1996
    Alex Moulden (11)
    Ray Lewis (26)

    1997
    James Farrior (8)
    Trevor Pryce (28)

    1998
    Greg Ellis (8)
    Takeo Spikes (13)

    1999
    Chris Claiborne (9)
    Anthony McFarland (15)

    2000
    Brian Urlacher (9)
    Julian Peterson (16)

    2001
    Jamal Reynolds (10)
    Marcus Stroud (13)

    2002
    Roy Williams (8)
    Dwight Freeney (11)

    2003
    Kevin Williams (9)
    Marcus Trufant (11)

    2004
    DeAngelo Hall (8)
    Jonathan Vilma (12)

    2005
    Antrel Rolle (8)
    Shawne Merriman (12)

    So, what does this show us? It shows that the draft is too uncertain to worry so much about 3 slots that you would ever prefer a loss over a win.

    Of course, Bernie isn't interested in a comprehensive historical analysis. He'd rather make an anecdotal comment about Jimmy Kennedy (who he has labeled a "bust" - I can't wait for JK to prove him wrong) to justify his inane argument.
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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    I feel ultimately we will pick a better player at 11 than at 8 (regarding to how crazy the draft is).

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Proof That Bernie's An Idiot
    Did you really need proof?

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    i believe most long time ram fans are not really concerned with WHERE we pick...rather, we are and should be very concerned about WHO is doing the picking....

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    I can't wait for JK to prove him wrong) .
    Don't hold your breath.

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    That really is a surprising statement from a professional journalist who's watched the NFL for a while. He must have been struggling for copy.

    After all, if what he said was an absolute truth, every team apart from the eventual SB winners would be kicking themselves for having a season of achievment which ruined their chances of getting the number one pick.

    Let alone the fact that the draft is a weighted lottery.

    Unreal...........................

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Not only did BM say it this week, he posted last week that he was happy that the Rams lost to the Whiners because it would improve their draft position.

    To paraphrase "A Fish Called Wanda":

    AvengerRam: "Bernie, you're an idiot."

    Bernie: "How can I be an idiot. Idiots don't cover the NFL."

    AvengerRam: "Yes, idiots do cover the NFL... they just don't understand it."

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    That's more important to me than the difference between 5-11 and 6-10 or a win over an emotionally flattened Dallas team.
    Absolutely unbelievable.

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    Not only did BM say it this week, he posted last week that he was happy that the Rams lost to the Whiners because it would improve their draft position.
    It's obvious that bernie is not a Rams fan because no Rams fan would be happy with the Rams losing, especially to the hated Niners.
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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Whiners VP of player personnel said when asked of the whiners win over Houston affecting their draft position "From a draft standpoint, it doesn't matter. We'll play it out, and wherever we pick is where we pick. There are going to be good players available no matter where we pick. We're here to win games"

    Hate to quote a whiner, but I think he's got this one right.

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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    AvengerRam: "Yes, idiots do cover the NFL... they just don't understand it."
    What's the difference between Bernie and many Rams fans?

    Bernie writes for the local gazette, whereas, the Rams fans in question write at message boards.




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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferter
    What's the difference between Bernie and many Rams fans?

    Bernie writes for the local gazette, whereas, the Rams fans in question write at message boards.
    The diferences are many. I'll use me as an example (since your post was undoubtedly meant as a dig at me):

    AR: Makes a point, backs it up with facts.
    BM: Makes a point, backs it up with zilch.

    AR: Writes from the perspective of a person who loves the Rams.
    BM: Writes for a paycheck.

    AR: Knows he's not part of the story.
    BM: Thinks he's part of the story.

    AR: Admits when he's proven wrong.
    BM: Rarely takes a stand, and denies when he's proven wrong.

    AR: Is kind to all animals.
    BM: Regularly beats puppies to death and drinks their blood.

    See the difference now?

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    Re: Yawn...

    The diferences are many. I'll use me as an example (since your post was undoubtedly meant as a dig at me):

    AR: Makes a point, backs it up with facts.
    BM: Makes a point, backs it up with zilch.

    AR: Writes from the perspective of a person who loves the Rams.
    BM: Writes for a paycheck.

    AR: Knows he's not part of the story.
    BM: Thinks he's part of the story.

    AR: Admits when he's proven wrong.
    BM: Rarely takes a stand, and denies when he's proven wrong.

    AR: Is kind to all animals.
    BM: Regularly beats puppies to death and drinks their blood.

    See the difference now?
    Proof that Av is obsessed with Bernie....
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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    The diferences are many. I'll use me as an example (since your post was undoubtedly meant as a dig at me):
    Actually Av, you're not all bad. You're just wrong sometimes, like now, when you think I am specifically making a dig at ya.



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    Re: Proof That Bernie's An Idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    BM: Regularly beats puppies to death and drinks their blood.
    Mmmmmmmmmmmm.... puppies! Kittens are good too!

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