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    Ram Defensive Ends

    Should James Hall and Victor Adeyanju get the start, with Little and Long coming in on rotations and passing downs?

    It's odd that both of our starters are undersized yet we wonder why we struggle to stop the run.

    The flip side is that the Rams are known around the league as a team (or defense) you want to get into the nickle or dime and then run on them. Bengals did it. Falcons did it, but they can flat run on great defenses so.

    I'm just curious as to why we stick with Little and Long if in reality we (at times) would probably have a more stable defense with our two backups in there more. Curious what you guys think about this. And hey, it doesn't involve Bulger.

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    Going by their listed weights, Long, Hall, and Adeyanju are all within ten pounds of each other. Thus, I think it's inaccurate to refer to the 276-pound Long as "undersized" when Hall is only 281 and Adeyanju is 284. But again, those are listed weights.

    The people I'd like to see start are the players who give the Rams the best chance at winning. I like what Chris Long brings to the table as a starter more than James Hall or Victor Adeyanju, but I'd like to see both of the latter two in the mix at both DE and DT in passing situations.

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    I believe Little should be rotated in at this point. He's a liability at run support. He has one pass rush move and it's a speed rush to the outside and that leaves our LBers completely exposed. The Turner runs against the Falcons showed it very clearly as recent examples.

    Long is big enough to play every down.

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by btimsah View Post
    Should James Hall and Victor Adeyanju get the start, with Little and Long coming in on rotations and passing downs?
    No.

    Next question.

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    if Hall and Adeyanju were better than Little and Long then they would be starting

    but they arent

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

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    No.

    Next question.
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    lol

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    I'd be more interested in seeing Victor Adeyanju and Chris Long for downs 1 & 2, and Little rotate in on 3rd. Especially if the Rams can get any kind of push up the middle.
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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    Little has normally been pretty good in run support, so I don't agree that he is a liability there. How many times has the run gone to the right side, and Little catches them from behind coming from the other side. I think the problem over the past 3-4 years has been with the DT's against the run, not the DE's.

    Spags is going to move them all over the place this year confusing the O-line and QB, that's his stamp on a defense !!!

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    No.

    Next question.
    Hey AV stop stealing my line(s), but I fully agree with you.
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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    I should clarify my statement. I think the above because I'd like to keep Little fresh and protect him in this stage of his career, ensure some health and rest.
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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    I'm not so sure it really matters who the starters are. Spags likes to mix up and rotate his D Linemen. I think all of these guys will see plenty of playing time.

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    I think Little should start, but he should play less snaps to keep him fresh and healthy. I'm sure Spags will do that with the deep rotation he likes to use. We could see alot of Adenyanju and Hall on either side on running downs and also see them at DT on passing downs where I think they will be the most dangerous with there size and speed combo against slower guards

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    Yeah, I wouldn't call Long particularly undersized. If you look at the league's top pass rushers, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, John Abraham, Darren Howard, Aaron Kampman, and Jared Allen are just some of the guys listed in the 260-270 range. As far as who starts, I don't think it matters too much. Adeyanju probably comes in on obvious run downs; Little probably comes in on obvious passing downs. The rest is up in the air. We might not technically have the same starters from game to game depending on how we think the opponent is going to come out.

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    Re: Ram Defensive Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by Richbert88 View Post
    I'd be more interested in seeing Victor Adeyanju and Chris Long for downs 1 & 2, and Little rotate in on 3rd. Especially if the Rams can get any kind of push up the middle.
    That at least makes some logical sense. Why anyone would suggest that Long should not be a starter is beyond me.

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